Throttle Lag

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Jun 24, 2007 | 03:13 PM
  #16  
Quote: The paddles are slow and can drag out shifts depending upon speed , load, etc... I don't like the soggy response you get much of the time... it's nothing like a manual.. The auto does a good enough job when left alone.. most of the time
Couldn't agree more with that description. For anyone who hasn't driven the 07 auto, that's exactly what if feels like - a wet sponge. Think of a great handling car with ample torque, which has been neutered by spongy, vague power shifting . Don't get me wrong, for an AT, the gearbox in this car is great. Coupled with paddle shifters, and you get the so-called "manual control", but it is nowhere near the response you get from a manual gearbox.

I had the chance yesterday to take Coupin827's 6MT for a spin . Needless to say, I was mad at myself for giving in and getting the AT.
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Jun 24, 2007 | 06:45 PM
  #17  
Quote: I had the chance yesterday to take Coupin827's 6MT for a spin . Needless to say, I was mad at myself for giving in and getting the AT.
I don't regret getting the 5AT in this car. It's fits the cars persona better than the manual IMO.
The control and lag time only hurt the experience under certain conditions.
It's still fun to drive with good performance... just not the last word in speed of operation or precision shifting.
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Jun 24, 2007 | 06:45 PM
  #18  
I think what people are experiencing is due to the electronic throttle control. It's not uncommon to have the system calibrated so that nothing happens, (i.e. the computer doesn't register a torque demand) for the first several counts or degrees of pedal travel. It's normal.
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Jun 25, 2007 | 02:37 AM
  #19  
I don't get it....
My passengers complain about neck whiplash every time they ride with me.
Why is my G so damn jumpy? No lag at all.
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Jun 25, 2007 | 02:52 AM
  #20  
I think people are talking about two things, the lurch from a dead stop and throttle lag once at speed. I haven't experienced any throttle lag once rolling just the gas pedal dead zone from a dead stop. It takes some practice lauching this car smoothly from the line.
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Jun 25, 2007 | 08:21 AM
  #21  
Quote: I don't get it....
My passengers complain about neck whiplash every time they ride with me.
Why is my G so damn jumpy? No lag at all.
There is a whiplash effect - that is when the gearbox FINALLY shifts. The whiplash comes from the ample torque the car has, not from the tranny. All the tranny does is delay the kick down effect.

As a side note, I was driving down to work this morning, and toggled the left shifter (downshift) twice quickly, to go from 5 to 3. The car downshifted to 4 almost instantaneously, but took a full 1.5 seconds to take it another gear down.

Also, I would like to reiterate: This is not my first auto car. I've owned autos before and and I'm fully aware that a certain loss in response time is a given in any auto transmission. I guess my frustration stems from my personal mistake than with the tranny itself. For an auto tranny, it is certainly above average.
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Jun 25, 2007 | 09:04 AM
  #22  
Quote: I think people are talking about two things, the lurch from a dead stop and throttle lag once at speed. I haven't experienced any throttle lag once rolling just the gas pedal dead zone from a dead stop. It takes some practice lauching this car smoothly from the line.
I have no issue with throttle response. It is instant.
The delay comes from the automatic and it's programming.
Let me again say that the majority of the time, under most conditions the car performs flawlessly. Other times shifts can drag out and hang on, become sluggish and out of sync. even in manual mode.
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Jun 25, 2007 | 10:08 AM
  #23  
I think different people are talking about different things. As I have already stated, Cheryl's 6MT has a bit of throttle lag; there is a decided lack of throttle response versus my car. Be that due to mods or what, I can't speculate.

As an example, I have stalled her car three times in the 5 or so times I've driven it.
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Jun 25, 2007 | 05:11 PM
  #24  
Quote: I think different people are talking about different things. As I have already stated, Cheryl's 6MT has a bit of throttle lag; there is a decided lack of throttle response versus my car. Be that due to mods or what, I can't speculate.

As an example, I have stalled her car three times in the 5 or so times I've driven it.

I've posted the same thing on another forum - there seems to be a delay on my 2007 6MT before all the power comes on compared to my 2003 6MT. I notice it most when I want to change lanes into an opening in traffic - with the 2003 I could give it throttle and the power would be instantaneous to pull ahead and into the other lane with a tight opening - with the 2007 there is a slight albeit just enough hesitation to cause me to think twice.

As an example of people talking about different things - in response to my other post, the guy in the other forum said his 2007 took off from the traffic light without any delay - I wasn't talking about that and have no problem there.
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Jun 26, 2007 | 10:48 AM
  #25  
Drive by wire lag
This is biggest complaint my wife and I have. My dealer told there is nothing that can be done and the sensor doesn't kick in immediately to remove the play. I am driving an 06 loaner and the mechanical throttle linkage does not react like the 07 throttle by wire. I am registering a complaint with consumer affairs to see if this may jump start a service bulletin or something. I suggest everyone else do the same. 800.662.6200

Any one else have a problem with the door latch? My driverside is being replaced due to the door not closing properly.
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Jun 26, 2007 | 01:24 PM
  #26  
i, too, hate the DBW throttle programming. when i have the time i'll be writing a nice letter to infiniti requesting they do some research on a throttle DBW remap for customers that also feel this way. it's retarded.
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Jun 26, 2007 | 01:28 PM
  #27  
Quote: This is biggest complaint my wife and I have. My dealer told there is nothing that can be done and the sensor doesn't kick in immediately to remove the play. I am driving an 06 loaner and the mechanical throttle linkage does not react like the 07 throttle by wire. I am registering a complaint with consumer affairs to see if this may jump start a service bulletin or something. I suggest everyone else do the same. 800.662.6200

Any one else have a problem with the door latch? My driverside is being replaced due to the door not closing properly.
The first gen is TBW as well.
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Jun 26, 2007 | 01:28 PM
  #28  
The 06 is most definitely throttle-by-wire. Maybe the mapping is different, but it's definitely NOT mechanically linked.


Quote: This is biggest complaint my wife and I have. My dealer told there is nothing that can be done and the sensor doesn't kick in immediately to remove the play. I am driving an 06 loaner and the mechanical throttle linkage does not react like the 07 throttle by wire. I am registering a complaint with consumer affairs to see if this may jump start a service bulletin or something. I suggest everyone else do the same. 800.662.6200

Any one else have a problem with the door latch? My driverside is being replaced due to the door not closing properly.
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Jun 26, 2007 | 01:53 PM
  #29  
Quote: The 06 is most definitely throttle-by-wire. Maybe the mapping is different, but it's definitely NOT mechanically linked.
which is exactly why when people dismiss my complaints about the 07 throttle response as a result of DBW I want to smack them with a pop tart.
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Jul 8, 2007 | 10:47 AM
  #30  
This may not address any reported issues but here is how accelerator pedal is calibrated according to SM.

ACCELERATOR PEDAL RELEASED POSITION LEARNING
Accelerator Pedal Released Position Learning is a function of ECM to learn the fully released position of the accelerator pedal by monitoring the accelerator pedal position sensor output signal. It must be performed each
time harness connector of accelerator pedal position sensor or ECM is disconnected.

1. Make sure that accelerator pedal is fully released.
2. Turn ignition switch ON and wait at least 2 seconds.
3. Turn ignition switch OFF and wait at least 10 seconds.
4. Turn ignition switch ON and wait at least 2 seconds.
5. Turn ignition switch OFF and wait at least 10 seconds.
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