Throttle Lag
Originally Posted by ElixXxeR
I received my first 2007 loaner car yesterday and absolutely loved it except for the odd throttle lag. I can imagine getting used to it in an automatic, but I plan to purchase a manual and am curious if the manual cars suffer from the same lag. If so, starting off of a hill or even flat ground would take longer or result in a huge lurch. Any input from 6MT owners would be much appreciated.
On the 06 model, I also notice the steering on the sport is quite better than the non-sport as well.
Originally Posted by LudwigB
What do you think of the steering? That was my only main complaint of my 07 loaner car. At low speed, it's a bit light but then steering effort changes to heavy almost too abrupt as speed increases. It's not quite as linear as my 06 sedan. The steering also is more isolated but I was driving a non-sport 07 model so maybe the sport 07 model steering feel is more connected.
On the 06 model, I also notice the steering on the sport is quite better than the non-sport as well.
On the 06 model, I also notice the steering on the sport is quite better than the non-sport as well.
my loaner 06 was more "fun" to drive even though the actual performance of the 07 is higher.
i have gotten used to the steering though. it reminds me of the new BMWs and all Audis.
Originally Posted by LudwigB
What do you think of the steering? That was my only main complaint of my 07 loaner car. At low speed, it's a bit light but then steering effort changes to heavy almost too abrupt as speed increases. It's not quite as linear as my 06 sedan. The steering also is more isolated but I was driving a non-sport 07 model so maybe the sport 07 model steering feel is more connected.
On the 06 model, I also notice the steering on the sport is quite better than the non-sport as well.
On the 06 model, I also notice the steering on the sport is quite better than the non-sport as well.
Anyway, the main differences noticed were:
- Steering is lighter throughout the range - when I got back in my G, steering felt very heavy. However, I like it better because at speed would rather have less help than deal with light steering
- The throttle is indeed much better. Very linear on the '06, I had to briefly re-learn my gas pedal "stroke".
- And finally, the exhaust note on the '06 was sweet. I liked it better than mine, hope the mufflers break in to deliver that sound!
- Oh, one other thing - it broke the back wheels loose instantly in the rain, but suspect that was due to tires more than vehicle design.
Originally Posted by G35Now!
I just had the opposite experience, driving an '06 loaner. I didn't actually check, but it appeared to be a base model.
Anyway, the main differences noticed were:
Anyway, the main differences noticed were:
- Steering is lighter throughout the range - when I got back in my G, steering felt very heavy. However, I like it better because at speed would rather have less help than deal with light steering
- The throttle is indeed much better. Very linear on the '06, I had to briefly re-learn my gas pedal "stroke".
- And finally, the exhaust note on the '06 was sweet. I liked it better than mine, hope the mufflers break in to deliver that sound!
- Oh, one other thing - it broke the back wheels loose instantly in the rain, but suspect that was due to tires more than vehicle design.
I also agree that the tire on the 06 non-sport is too skinny and I was able to let it loose very easily.
I know exactly what you guys are talking about. My car does the same thing and right now is the only thing I don't like about the car. Here is my example of the lag/hesitation. Picture the accelerator peddle in percentage. Closed is 0% and wide open throttle being 100%. When you lightly press the accelerator it feels like a dead spot and then all of a sudden there is acceleration. Instead of being liner (1%, 2%, 3%, 4%, etc.) when lightly pressing the accelerator it goes from 0% to 10% so you get that lurching.
A good example is when I put my car's cruise control on and I'm in 6th gear if I come down a slight decline where the accelerator would go to 0 to maintain the speed then go to flat ground where the accelerator would start to accelerate to maintain the desired speed the car would lurch. I would lurch so much that I felt like I would get sea sick. There is no liner throttle response with light throttle input. That is my best explanation of lag/hesitation I am experiencing.
Dave
A good example is when I put my car's cruise control on and I'm in 6th gear if I come down a slight decline where the accelerator would go to 0 to maintain the speed then go to flat ground where the accelerator would start to accelerate to maintain the desired speed the car would lurch. I would lurch so much that I felt like I would get sea sick. There is no liner throttle response with light throttle input. That is my best explanation of lag/hesitation I am experiencing.
Dave
As a new G35S 6MT driver--with 30 years experience of manual transmissions-- I've been reading this "throttle lag" thread for a while now. I 've enough miles on my car--about 250-- to have gotten a feel for working with the clutch and throttle dynamic.
A few suggestions. Don't toe the accelerator pedal. Best to put your entire foot on the pedal and apply pressure from the middle or ball of your foot, using your heel as a pivot point. Alternately you can "toe" the middle to the bottom of the accelerator pedal, which takes more effortand may produce fatigue after a while.
The pedal is hinged at the bottom, not the top, and toeing it at the top will produce a feeling of delay.
I assume the accelerator pedal is the same for the sport whether MT or AT. And as a 6MT driver, I can't speak for the delay in the AT paddle shifter response, but try this accelerator technique. It may help.
A few suggestions. Don't toe the accelerator pedal. Best to put your entire foot on the pedal and apply pressure from the middle or ball of your foot, using your heel as a pivot point. Alternately you can "toe" the middle to the bottom of the accelerator pedal, which takes more effortand may produce fatigue after a while.
The pedal is hinged at the bottom, not the top, and toeing it at the top will produce a feeling of delay.
I assume the accelerator pedal is the same for the sport whether MT or AT. And as a 6MT driver, I can't speak for the delay in the AT paddle shifter response, but try this accelerator technique. It may help.
Originally Posted by treacherous
This may not address any reported issues but here is how accelerator pedal is calibrated according to SM.
ACCELERATOR PEDAL RELEASED POSITION LEARNING
Accelerator Pedal Released Position Learning is a function of ECM to learn the fully released position of the accelerator pedal by monitoring the accelerator pedal position sensor output signal. It must be performed each
time harness connector of accelerator pedal position sensor or ECM is disconnected.
1. Make sure that accelerator pedal is fully released.
2. Turn ignition switch ON and wait at least 2 seconds.
3. Turn ignition switch OFF and wait at least 10 seconds.
4. Turn ignition switch ON and wait at least 2 seconds.
5. Turn ignition switch OFF and wait at least 10 seconds.
ACCELERATOR PEDAL RELEASED POSITION LEARNING
Accelerator Pedal Released Position Learning is a function of ECM to learn the fully released position of the accelerator pedal by monitoring the accelerator pedal position sensor output signal. It must be performed each
time harness connector of accelerator pedal position sensor or ECM is disconnected.
1. Make sure that accelerator pedal is fully released.
2. Turn ignition switch ON and wait at least 2 seconds.
3. Turn ignition switch OFF and wait at least 10 seconds.
4. Turn ignition switch ON and wait at least 2 seconds.
5. Turn ignition switch OFF and wait at least 10 seconds.
i seriously doubt resetting the throttle position sensor is going to alleviate this issue, since it's not an "issue" per se. it's how the drive by wire system is programmed. our cars are functioning within programmed parameters. it just so happens that the programming itself sucks. 
that's why we should all write Infiniti and complain about the tuning. a new ECM program would be required to "fix" this issue.

that's why we should all write Infiniti and complain about the tuning. a new ECM program would be required to "fix" this issue.
i found that the floor mats and the all-season rubber mats help and make the throttle easier to modulate.
fyi, instructions for the all season mats state that you should remove the floor mats.
fyi, instructions for the all season mats state that you should remove the floor mats.
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