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Originally Posted by disgookonfiya
I drove an 07 TL (loaner) for a week and decided to buy the G35 when i gave the TL back to acura. But i haven't driven the TL type S but the regular TL i think handles better than my 07 G35. It laid flat on every turn i can throw at it, and though it did give me some understeer when i try to take turn at speeds i wouldn't try to do in my G, I was impressed. There's a turn i take to work everyday, and i did probably a whole 10-15 mph quicker around that turn in the TL than i can in the G. I deciding between the G35 and the TL, and though the TL would have been 4k cheaper, i decided on the G mostly b/c of the straight line speed, and i didn't want a car that was about to change shape in a year...
You guys must be on crack. I owned an '05 TL for 2 years and the G is a much better handling and better balanced machine. I don't have the stats on hand, but I would bet the G's skidpad numbers are much better than a regular TL's. I will eat crow if wrong, but by SOTP feel, the G is much better.
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Originally Posted by ScottyB
You guys must be on crack. I owned an '05 TL for 2 years and the G is a much better handling and better balanced machine. I don't have the stats on hand, but I would bet the G's skidpad numbers are much better than a regular TL's. I will eat crow if wrong, but by SOTP feel, the G is much better.
I own both a TL and a G35, and my old 2nd gen TL doesn't hold a light to the G35, but when they gave me a loaner about three weeks ago, i was honestly impressed by it's handling. It doesn't take off like our cars, but once u get it going it's very swift. ScottyB owned one, so he can say what he pleases, but for those that haven't spent some decent seat time in one, don't put it down. Alot of y'all are biased, and i drive a G35 too, and i love it, i just happen to think for 34k OTD, the TL is a pretty good deal
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Originally Posted by disgookonfiya
I own both a TL and a G35, and my old 2nd gen TL doesn't hold a light to the G35, but when they gave me a loaner about three weeks ago, i was honestly impressed by it's handling. It doesn't take off like our cars, but once u get it going it's very swift. ScottyB owned one, so he can say what he pleases, but for those that haven't spent some decent seat time in one, don't put it down. Alot of y'all are biased, and i drive a G35 too, and i love it, i just happen to think for 34k OTD, the TL is a pretty good deal
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Originally Posted by ugaexploder
Yeah usually those people don't even know it's FWD if they don't care.
The majority of the drivers on the road are not enthusiasts. The average person wouldn't care less if the TL is FWD or not, nor even know what torque steer is. The fact remains that the TL is a great car and handles extremely well for a FWD based car.......probably one of the best actually. I love the G just as much as everyone else, but it's not the only nice car out there.
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I am not even sure what that even means.
The majority of the drivers on the road are not enthusiasts. The average person wouldn't care less if the TL is FWD or not, nor even know what torque steer is. The fact remains that the TL is a great car and handles extremely well for a FWD based car.......probably one of the best actually. I love the G just as much as everyone else, but it's not the only nice car out there.
The majority of the drivers on the road are not enthusiasts. The average person wouldn't care less if the TL is FWD or not, nor even know what torque steer is. The fact remains that the TL is a great car and handles extremely well for a FWD based car.......probably one of the best actually. I love the G just as much as everyone else, but it's not the only nice car out there.
that's exactly what i meant by my comment. the majority of drivers are completely oblivious to a TL being a FWD car. and those people that do not know the TL is a FWD car doesn't care. I agree it's a nice car, but performance wise it's more on par with the altima. that's all i meant
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And for many of the people who FWD or RWD matters to them, they think of FWD generally being better in snow than RWD. At least with normal all season tires. (probably memories from previous generation RWD cars where most of the weight was in front, unlike the G35 where it is pretty balanced). If 60% of the weight is in the front, then a FWD car should handle better in snow.
I probably don't push my car enough that the difference matters, so except for avoiding a little torque steer, I probably don't notice the difference. In my case, I fell attracted to the car at first site, so in spite of some due diligence of looking at some competing cars, I ended up with the G35.
I probably don't push my car enough that the difference matters, so except for avoiding a little torque steer, I probably don't notice the difference. In my case, I fell attracted to the car at first site, so in spite of some due diligence of looking at some competing cars, I ended up with the G35.
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No doubt about it that fwd is better in rain and snow.
And rwd is for performance cars its good for push but then agian terrible in snow or rain.
So there is a difference. With thodays awd cars it breaks off into percents like 60 rwd with 40 fwd or the opposits it varries.
To me i notice the difference between fwd rwd and awd.
And rwd is for performance cars its good for push but then agian terrible in snow or rain.
So there is a difference. With thodays awd cars it breaks off into percents like 60 rwd with 40 fwd or the opposits it varries.
To me i notice the difference between fwd rwd and awd.
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so back to the trip and DS.
Which is quicker if you know how to use trip? Bc if you dont know when to switch then ofcourse DS is quicker, but if you do know how to switch in trip which would be faster?
Which is quicker if you know how to use trip? Bc if you dont know when to switch then ofcourse DS is quicker, but if you do know how to switch in trip which would be faster?
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To get us totally of track...
I've owned plenty of cars of all types (Front-, Mid- and Rear-engined, and FWD, RWD, and AWD). And each has its place. You can make an FWD car handle extremely well (the TL, and on the cheap end the Mazda3 comes to mind). Yes, RWD is superior at 10/10ths, but how may people drive their cars at even 8/10ths. I'd say a very small percent. For most people, FWD cars are fine. And no matter what tech they add to RWD cars, they will still be better in the snow.
I personally would choose RWD over FWD every time. Well nearly everytime, I did purchase a Probe GT over a Mustang GT back in the 90s. And I would normally take a mid-engine car over a front-engine car (Miata would have beat out the MR2 if I was buying one of those at that time).
I've owned plenty of cars of all types (Front-, Mid- and Rear-engined, and FWD, RWD, and AWD). And each has its place. You can make an FWD car handle extremely well (the TL, and on the cheap end the Mazda3 comes to mind). Yes, RWD is superior at 10/10ths, but how may people drive their cars at even 8/10ths. I'd say a very small percent. For most people, FWD cars are fine. And no matter what tech they add to RWD cars, they will still be better in the snow.
I personally would choose RWD over FWD every time. Well nearly everytime, I did purchase a Probe GT over a Mustang GT back in the 90s. And I would normally take a mid-engine car over a front-engine car (Miata would have beat out the MR2 if I was buying one of those at that time).
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Originally Posted by QuoVadimus
To get us totally of track...
I've owned plenty of cars of all types (Front-, Mid- and Rear-engined, and FWD, RWD, and AWD). And each has its place. You can make an FWD car handle extremely well (the TL, and on the cheap end the Mazda3 comes to mind). Yes, RWD is superior at 10/10ths, but how may people drive their cars at even 8/10ths. I'd say a very small percent. For most people, FWD cars are fine. And no matter what tech they add to RWD cars, they will still be better in the snow.
I personally would choose RWD over FWD every time. Well nearly everytime, I did purchase a Probe GT over a Mustang GT back in the 90s. And I would normally take a mid-engine car over a front-engine car (Miata would have beat out the MR2 if I was buying one of those at that time).
I've owned plenty of cars of all types (Front-, Mid- and Rear-engined, and FWD, RWD, and AWD). And each has its place. You can make an FWD car handle extremely well (the TL, and on the cheap end the Mazda3 comes to mind). Yes, RWD is superior at 10/10ths, but how may people drive their cars at even 8/10ths. I'd say a very small percent. For most people, FWD cars are fine. And no matter what tech they add to RWD cars, they will still be better in the snow.
I personally would choose RWD over FWD every time. Well nearly everytime, I did purchase a Probe GT over a Mustang GT back in the 90s. And I would normally take a mid-engine car over a front-engine car (Miata would have beat out the MR2 if I was buying one of those at that time).
But the whole pickin a probe GT over a Mustang is weird...especially if it was a 5.0