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Old 05-18-2008, 03:03 PM
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+1 for the above post. don't need a 3.7L, especially when I have a ME-spec G35 with 327hp stock
 
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Originally Posted by Q8y_drifter
+1 for the above post. don't need a 3.7L, especially when I have a ME-spec G35 with 327hp stock
Is that 327bhp or 327PS?
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Originally Posted by Q8y_drifter
+1 for the above post. don't need a 3.7L, especially when I have a ME-spec G35 with 327hp stock

Hate to break it to you, but the 327hp in your ME spec G is the same as the US spec 306hp. They just have a different way of rating it which on paper looks higher.
 
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Hate to break it to you, but the 327hp in your ME spec G is the same as the US spec 306hp. They just have a different way of rating it which on paper looks higher.
thats what some are telling me but then again a lot cars here make more hp due to different emissions regulations. I don't know TBH, since some cars are rated the same as the US while others are more
 

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Originally Posted by fecurtis
Dude wtf are you talking about?
- go go http://www.infiniti.eu/en-gb/G37/
- mouse over "Performance. Perfected"
- read the last sentence

That's WTF I'm talking about.
 
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Old 05-19-2008, 04:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Jspeed
- go go http://www.infiniti.eu/en-gb/G37/
- mouse over "Performance. Perfected"
- read the last sentence

That's WTF I'm talking about.
Yeah you still don't know what you're talking about.

1. North Americans don't regularly check webpages based in other countries.
2. A lot of companies detune engines especially if they don't want one car with the same engine ending up going faster than another car with the same engine. And the 335i is not underrated from the factory...if you're basing that statement because the 335i is faster than the G35...an extra 30 ft-lb of torque (48 ft-lb for the Euro spec G37 sedan) more than makes up for the 6 HP advantage our engines have.
3. "Over 310 PS" is marketing jargin, since 310 PS is literally 305.75 HP, they would be right, it does make over 310 PS. It wouldn't make sense for Nissan to claim that the "GT-R has over 400 HP", it would create the illusion that the GT-R barely makes more than 400 HP.
 
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Old 05-19-2008, 07:38 PM
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this thread reminds me of 2004 when "rev-ups" came out. lol
 
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Old 05-20-2008, 09:36 PM
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Originally Posted by fecurtis
Yeah you still don't know what you're talking about.
I respect your opinion, and it's ok that you choose to discredit mine.
1. North Americans don't regularly check webpages based in other countries.
That's fine.
2. A lot of companies detune engines especially if they don't want one car with the same engine ending up going faster than another car with the same engine. And the 335i is not underrated from the factory...if you're basing that statement because the 335i is faster than the G35...an extra 30 ft-lb of torque (48 ft-lb for the Euro spec G37 sedan) more than makes up for the 6 HP advantage our engines have.
Yes, Infiniti certainly could detune the VQ37. I'm not saying it's impossible. I simply offered my opinion. I just don't see the logic of detuning the European G37 coupe compared to the North American version. Without dyno'ing the N54 at the flywheel, we can't be 100% sure. However, considering the at-the-wheel dyno results, the 335i would need to have over 90% drivetrain efficiency to NOT be under-rated. That's just not possible with existing technology on such a drivetrain setup.
3. "Over 310 PS" is marketing jargin, since 310 PS is literally 305.75 HP, they would be right, it does make over 310 PS. It wouldn't make sense for Nissan to claim that the "GT-R has over 400 HP", it would create the illusion that the GT-R barely makes more than 400 HP.
I understand what you mean, and it's certainly a possibility. I just think it's bad marketing move to use a bigger engine that offers no additional power (compared to the VQ35HR) for the European market. Consumers there are highly conscious of power-to-displacement figures and relate them to engineering efficiency.

We won't know for sure until someone dynos the European VQ37 models or Nissan makes a statement. Unless you work for Nissan or get your info from someone who does, I don't think it's unreasonable to consider the possibility that the Euro VQ37 models actually aren't detuned from the North American counterparts.
 
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If 09 models come pre-equipped with Akebonos... I'd be pretty mad. hahaha
 
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At first I was a little jealous of the 7 speed auto.

But, the more I think about it, the less I care. I really don't drive on the highway much, so the slight increase in fuel economy wouldn't matter much.

Plus, from what I've read about autos with a lot of gears, they tend to "hunt" for gears a lot. Upshifting and downshifting all the time might get a little annoying. The gear spacing on the G35 5 speed seems pretty great. In order to make it "better" i'd just make 5th gear slightly taller. I don't see the need for 2 more gears. Option 2 would to keep the 5 gears the same, just add a double overdrive for a 6th gear.
 
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Old 05-23-2008, 08:08 AM
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^^^ +1

I agree 1-4 are perfect. 5 is practically useless since it's only a 500 RPM difference over 4. making 5 more useful or just adding a 6th for when the car is over 60MPH would be perfect.

another thought would be for 6th to not lock the tranny and let the car coast, that's the biggest killer of gas is that you can't ever take your foot off the gas or the engine drags it down.

it's still the most amazing non-smg auto tranny every produced............
 
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I have to disagree, 7 gears makes for less RPM when cruising. The FX50 with 7 gears did 0-60 in 5 seconds, thats .2 seconds slower than the 335i, very commendable for an SUV so I doubt the gearing will affect perfomance. If they bring the 7 speed, I am sure its going to come with an interior finishing close to the EX and the paint that heals itself. So the next generation G is going to be better than our 08/7 G. Sorry
 
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7 speed auto is bound to be less reliable for the first or second model year (or longer). I was holding out to see what happened in '09, but injectors just crapped out on my '92 Q45 (thanks to ethanol). Just got a silver 08 sedan no sunroof (mega headroom!).
 
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Originally Posted by fecurtis
Since so many people have their panties in a bunch about the G37 sedan in europe and rumors that it may come here, no need to worry, looking at the Infiniti of Europe webpage here:

http://www.infiniti.eu/en-gb/G37/

It says that the 3.7 L V6 in the G37 sedan comes with 310 PS (thats metric hp) and 350 newton meters of torque (curse that stupid metric system that the rest of the world uses). Some simple conversions show that this equates to:

310 Metric HP = 305.75 HP
350 Nm = 258.11 lb-ft

So no matter what engine it has...it'll have the same hp us 07-08 folk enjoy.
So much for the dispelling the "myths" of the 09 G37 sedan. The official ordering guide for 2009 has been leaked, and the G37 sedan will indeed have the 3.7L engine and the 7 sp. auto tranny. Output is all but officially confrimed at 320+ bhp. Better still, the Akebono brakes are coming!


New features on the MY09 G Sedan include the following:

Name change from G35 to G37
3.7L VQ Engine with VVEL Technology
Electronically-controlled 7-Speed Automatic Transmission
Available 4-Piston Front Brakes with 14-inch Rotors
Available Split 5-Spoke 18-inch Aluminum-Alloy Sport Wheels
Re-Designed Side View Mirrors
Scratch Shield paint
Dial-type Seat Heater Switches
Power Door Locks with Automatic Locking
2 New Exterior Colors:
Moonlight White
Sahara Sandstone

Time for 07-08 owners to vent their loathing and fear.
 
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Old 06-08-2008, 10:59 PM
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I don't know, but I always figured that nissan would move all of their six bangers to 3.7 eventually. Probably makes sense from a manufacturing perspective. Especially so if the new 3.7 is more efficient.

Re: Detuning - It is not hard to believe that they will get more out of the 3.7 platform. I would suspect that they would even hold back the sedan vs. the coupe. Didn't they do exactly that with the first gen G?

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