New 7AT gearbox will require a shift into 3rd to hit 60... Maybe...

If the FX gearing is any indication, which I believe it is, then a 3rd shift will be required to hit 60.

6MT gearing will probably remain the same.

 

Which means greater torque multiplication. Should make for an even quicker 7at version.

 

Wait for the 09's then decide. You will get a much better deal on an 08 with the 09's sitting on the lot if you decide there not that much of a difference in the 6sp 08 vs 09's.

Plus infiniti my put rebates out on the 08's to move them.

 

Yeah....wait for some of the ugliest factory wheels I have seen in years.

 

Infiniti has already put incentives on the 08...

 

LoL the factory wheels can be replaced! The new transmission and increase hp will be nice. Are the torque numbers up too?

328/???

 

My crystal ball says we'll see best times of 5 flat and 13.6/105 for a 6mt sedan.

Yes, the G37 sedan will have more power, but also will have more weight... and if the old G37 coupe is any indication, torque increase will be minimal.

Remember when the G37 coupe was announced, and everybody was excited about predictions for 4.9 sprints to 60 and low 13s for the quarter...? Sigh.

Will the G37 sedan be faster, while being more fuel efficient? Yes. But not by much...

 

Explain to us how a 0-60 time makes any difference to someone who doesn't race as opposed to someone who does track their car

People either race legally or illegally. And in either case, I doubt they only race from 0-60.

And as far as just normal driving, 0-60 numbers mean absolutely nothing. Those numbers are only conducted at WOT.

0-60 numbers is just an aweful way of benchracing. There are way too many variables included in 0-60. And unfortunately, to the average magazine reader, they have no idea what comes into play in such a run.

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“Explain to us how a 0-60 time makes any difference to someone who doesn't race as opposed to someone who does track their car” - Skaterbasist

Here is my explanation of why 0-60 and ( more important to me ) quarter mile times & speeds “make a difference to someone who doesn’t race” = me.

Over many, many years of driving, I have determined what level of “seat-of-the-pants” acceleration ability I find satisfying & entertaining.

And I know what test numbers are generated & published for the cars that I find acceptable, in terms of acceleration.

Thus, I can determine, when I am in the market, what cars are going to ‘make the cut’ & earn a place on my short list – and what cars just will not be sufficiently capable, in this respect – for me.

Also – based on the published numbers – I see no need to try zero to [ anything ] acceleration runs during any test drives. As I also do not make any attempt to even approach the absolute cornering limits of the vehicle – in a test drive, or in any public road driving. I leave that to the professionals – with adequate run-off room. What I do look for is acceleration feel in typical real world situations – 10-40, 30-60 or 50-70, such situations as highway merging, or 2-lane road passing, for example.

Just my 0.2 gallons worth . . .
- Ray
Looking for good acceleration, but not quite equivalent to my Corvette . . .

 

I agree with what Ray is saying. 0-60 is a measure of absolute performance within the legal speed range. Actually, it's a holdover from the days of lower speed limits and 0-70 would really be more meaningful today IMO. Nonetheless, how fast a car gets from 100-120 or top speed is irrelevant to those who just drive on the street.

The downside to 0-60 times is the launch aspect. Most of us do not launch our cars hard on the street. I learned a lesson when buying my old WRX. The 0-60 times were pretty good (5.5sec range) but the real-world power wasn't what those numbers implied since they were the result of 5000rpm drop-clutch launches taking advantage of the virtually unlimited grip available because of AWD while trashing the clutch and synchros.

The measure I'm really interested in is the test that tells me how hard to expect to get pressed back in the seat when I mash the throttle while already moving. Now, the most important acceleration test in mags for me is the "street start" 5-60 test. It tells you a great deal about the power/fun on tap for your right foot without crazy vehicle-trashing hard launches. 50-70 numbers are also worth looking at but they often stipulate "in top gear". If I want to get from 50-70 fast you can bet I'm not going to be in the car's highest gear.

 

Well it's really simple. First and foremost, Im not talking about racing. Im talking about people who buy sports cars for performance. So that also eliminates people who "drive normal". 0-60 is a test of acceleration. It's not just "how fast your car will get to 60mph"...something MAKES your car go to 60mph...talking about POWER/torgue/engineering.<---- and those factors are what your body feels when accelerating. Thats what creates the feeling which I believe is the core reason that some people buy sports cars in the first place. Some buy for looks.

WOT is not uncommon, lol.


As far as racing, 0-60 is just the initial measure. Then there's 0-100. Then there's 0-100-0. Then there's the 1/4 mile. Then there's lateral G's and braking. There are several factors that are used to measure an automobile's performance. 0-60 is just ONE answer to the question, "What can she do?"

0-60 is just one of many standards that is used in the automobile industry.
I think the 60mph is useful because in a lot of places, the speed limit is either 55mph or 65mph so thats something that you can test as seen in the REAL world, LEGALLY.

A good comparison is how football and other sports use the 40-yard dash to assess how quick you can get off the line of scrimmage. Not EVERY play is all out but for ppl who want the FASTEST wide receiver on their team, the FIRST thing they are gonna look at is his 40-yard time.

 

Yes, those figures would be alot more significant for the street. But again, this has nothing to do with 0-60 figures. A whole lot more factors are involved in 0-60's.

IMO, they are great for magazine readers to do their bench racing.

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They are great for anyone who is in the market for a car or anyone who views automotives as a sport in itself. Its the reason the magazines test cars...to review them and divulge the results. I guess Im not sure exactly what your gripe is...

If YOU'RE not into it performance specs, OK. But whats the issue?

 

I agree 1000% Very well said.

 

One great reason to get a 6MT G37 sedan over an 6MT 08 sedan will be the fact that it will have lower NVH at higher rpms. My advice to you is go drive a G37 coupe and a G35 sedan, then you will be able to see the difference between the two engines.

The car will not be that much quicker to 60 and it won't feel quicker at lower rpms b/c the torque numbers for both engines are the same.