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Passing power on the highway?

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Old 02-02-2009, 06:30 PM
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Finally hit the 1K break in!....and the passing power is already freaking amazing!

In addition, I've been waiting to gun my car for the very first time, and today I found a HUGE open parking complex by luck with literally no cars around, basically only me. All i can say is WOW!!!! and that was right after a test drive of the 7AT 370Z (which is awesome btw).

I normally drive below 4K RPM, and this thing is already fast enough for me. Now I must find a safe empty road to drive for fun, but as for now, I will be cruising like a granny.
 
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Old 02-02-2009, 06:38 PM
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G is def faster than the TL
 
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Old 02-02-2009, 07:30 PM
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OK so I had to look it up.

Road and Track has each car referenced on their site. Well, a 2007 G35S, but its close enough. The G35 0-60 of 5.4 is one of the slower marks I've seen, but none the less I wanted to get the 2 cars from the same source with multiple times.

07G35/04TL

0-30 -> 1.9 / 2.3
0-40 -> 3.1
0-50 -> 4.0
30-60 -> 3.5 / 4
0-60 -> 5.4 / 6.3
0-70 -> 7.2
0-80 -> 9.0
0-90 -> 11.1
60-100 -> 8.5/11
90-100 -> 2.8 / 4?
0-100 -> 13.9 / 17.3
Passing 45-65 Mph: 2.8
Quarter Mile: 14.0 sec @ 100.4mph / 14.78@94.4mph

The G35 is ~17% faster than the TL 0-30
The G35 is ~12.5% faster 30-60
The G35 is ~23% faster 60-100

The G35 is ~30% faster 90-100*

*We know that it takes the G35 2.8 seconds to go from 90-100 and the TL 2.5 seconds to go from 94.4 - 100 mph. So maybe 2 seconds for the TL 90-94? Leaving it at maybe 4 or 4.5 90-100 mph??

Looks to me that the strength of 30-40 extra horsepower takes the TL at the higher speeds and that it is geared more towards that 30-60 range. Hopefully my math isn't off. BTW it should be noted it out performed the G35 in 2004.

2004TL

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Old 02-03-2009, 08:57 AM
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Originally Posted by chapter29
OK so I had to look it up.
BTW it should be noted it out performed the G35 in 2004.
I think you are confusing issues here, this information is irrelevant on the 07+ forum, there is a forum for the 1st generation where people there might find this useful.

The maths you have here also is meaningless because it proves your original post was wrong (i.e. TL pulls better) since per your numbers the 07+ G still pulls better than all TLs in the world, including the 09 model. If you don’t like the G, get an A4 or 335i, don’t settle for the TL
 
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Old 02-03-2009, 09:59 AM
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According to the list you provided even in 04 did not out performed the G. Take a look at the chart in the link. G35s did the 1/4 mile in 14.68 the TL did 14.78.

LOL 52 feet shorter braking from 100 that's sometghing to note. Acura was the worst in the group. I would be more concern about that than .000000000000002 differences in acceleration.LOL
 
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Old 02-03-2009, 10:30 AM
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Originally Posted by chapter29
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Looks to me that the strength of 30-40 extra horsepower takes the TL at the higher speeds and that it is geared more towards that 30-60 range. Hopefully my math isn't off. BTW it should be noted it out performed the G35 in 2004.
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^ I can believe that!

IDK much about the TL, but I sure notice a big difference between my old 04 & my 08.
 
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Old 02-03-2009, 11:52 AM
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Originally Posted by 306HP
I think you are confusing issues here, this information is irrelevant on the 07+ forum, there is a forum for the 1st generation where people there might find this useful.

The maths you have here also is meaningless because it proves your original post was wrong (i.e. TL pulls better) since per your numbers the 07+ G still pulls better than all TLs in the world, including the 09 model. If you don’t like the G, get an A4 or 335i, don’t settle for the TL
Nope no confusion at all. I am fairly clear what forum I am posting in. That was simply a side note comment.

The math is actually far from meaningless and if it doesn't interest you don't respond and waste yours and our time. I was challenging the initial posters claim (ie it isn't me) of the TL pulling faster at really any speed.

For the record I have a new 2008 G35xS and I love it. I also have a 2003 TL Type S that I let my son drive and it is pretty quick, but I do not concur that it feels like it pulls harder at the top end.
 
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Old 02-03-2009, 11:55 AM
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Originally Posted by tg1234
According to the list you provided even in 04 did not out performed the G. Take a look at the chart in the link. G35s did the 1/4 mile in 14.68 the TL did 14.78.

LOL 52 feet shorter braking from 100 that's sometghing to note. Acura was the worst in the group. I would be more concern about that than .000000000000002 differences in acceleration.LOL
Agreed. I was going off of some of the reading that I did, but your correct.
 
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Old 02-03-2009, 12:24 PM
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Originally Posted by chapter29
Nope no confusion at all. I am fairly clear what forum I am posting in. That was simply a side note comment.

The math is actually far from meaningless and if it doesn't interest you don't respond and waste yours and our time. I was challenging the initial posters claim (ie it isn't me) of the TL pulling faster at really any speed.

For the record I have a new 2008 G35xS and I love it. I also have a 2003 TL Type S that I let my son drive and it is pretty quick, but I do not concur that it feels like it pulls harder at the top end.

My bad, maybe I misread your post
 
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Old 02-03-2009, 02:00 PM
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If your looking for performance going straight dont look at the G or a TL! There are other cars that will destroy those numbers for the same price.
 
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Old 02-03-2009, 03:26 PM
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Originally Posted by 07 G35 07
acura is FWD and G35 is rwd or awd, Fwd will pull you into ur seat but rwd is kinda pushing ya. there is many differences. FWD make me feel that it is fast but it is not.
The OPs car is AWD. By your logic the front diff pulls him into his seat ( your words not mine) and the rear diff pushes him into it. The question then is, WTF happens at 88mph?



On a more serious and less retarded note, regarding the OP's original question about top end power on the freeway. The HR VQs have got a lot more top end kick versus the 35DEs from the 1st gen Gs. And compared with your TL, it's no contest. Your G makes 50 more peak hp than your TL (306 hp @ 6800 rpm vs. 256 hp @ 5000 rpm) and 35 more ft-lbs of torque at peak rpm (268 ft-lbs @ 4800 rpm vs. 233 ft-lbs @ 5000 rpm). I'm willing to bet that at 5k rpm, your G is already turning 256hp if not more and it's continuing to pull whereas the TL is already plateauing. That should give the G better pull across the entire rev range from idle to redline.

Keep in mind too that the G also has an extra 800 rpm to play with (7600 rpm redline vs. 6800 rpm redline) so depending on where in the powerband you're trying to execute your pass, you'll feel different things. In short, the G is a much faster car than a 3G TL. Even an AWD one. My guess is that you're used to passing others in the TL and I'm guessing you probably don't redline it (maybe short shift at around 6k). Short shift at 6k in the G though and you're still 800 rpm shy of your power peak.

Once the G is broken in give it a real go and you'll definitely be able to see that yes, unfortunately the wifey would be able to take you on the freeway.
 
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Old 02-03-2009, 06:04 PM
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Originally Posted by ThiesG35s
If your looking for performance going straight dont look at the G or a TL! There are other cars that will destroy those numbers for the same price.
Really?? Not too many choices in the sedan class.

The fastest sedans of 2008 in the $30-$40,000 price range.

1. Dodge Charger (probably cheaper)
2. BMW 335i (more expensive)
3. Lancer EVO (about the same)
4. Lexus IS350 (more expensive)
5. Infiniti G35

Not sure, but perhaps the Subaru Legacy 2.5GT is cheaper and just as fast.

I cannot really think of any sedan that is cheaper and faster outside of the Subaru and the Charger.

What other sedans? And even if you bring in coupes the list is fairly short.
 
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Old 02-03-2009, 06:40 PM
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Originally Posted by chapter29
1. Dodge Charger (probably cheaper)
2. BMW 335i (more expensive)
3. Lancer EVO (about the same)
4. Lexus IS350 (more expensive)
5. Infiniti G35
Not arguing by any means, but please allow me to retort...

1. Dodge Charger - Complete piece of crap. I drove one for a month.
2. BMW 335i - Not reliable enough for me.
3. Lancer EVO - Too childish for me, but looks like fun.
4. Lexus IS350 - I'd own one today if it was AWD. The 250 lacked power.
5. Infiniti G35 - For me, the best choice... I love it!

I drove 7 different TL loaners for a whole day each, as the dealer where I bought my MDX from knew I was shopping for a fun car (was close to buying the IS at that time) and really wanted my repeat business. None of them, including the red on black Type-S did anything for me. Once I drove the G, I knew what the TL's were missing and I never looked back.

To each his own, but I absolutely love my G, even after almost two years of ownership.
 
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Old 02-03-2009, 07:17 PM
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I've come to the conclusion that it's the illusion of quicker acceleration secondary to the increased "aggressive" sound of the intake.... case closed.

BTW... for those that seemed to turn this into a TL v. G35 debate (move on already!) .. i already stated in my OP .. please re-read at your leisure, that the G DEE-STROYS the TL in the low to mid-range... and the TL otherwise doesn't hold a candle to the G in the handling department.

Relax, relax. The G is a great car.
 
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Wow didnt expect this post to go this way anyways im glad its all sorted out! or is it?? anyone?
 


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