No respect for the G37S sedan from Car and Driver
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05-29-2009, 03:35 PM
No respect for the G37S sedan from Car and Driver
I just read this article on caranddriver.com
http://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/...omparison_test
Seems the G37 did every better than a 328i, TL, and a4 except the reviewers picked the bmw in the comparison just because it was bmw. Anyone else noticed a trend of biased reviews from car and driver?
I don't see how anyone would pick a car that has fake leather, no nav, a small engine, and small brakes over the Infiniti for the same money.
http://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/...omparison_test
Seems the G37 did every better than a 328i, TL, and a4 except the reviewers picked the bmw in the comparison just because it was bmw. Anyone else noticed a trend of biased reviews from car and driver?
I don't see how anyone would pick a car that has fake leather, no nav, a small engine, and small brakes over the Infiniti for the same money.
Last edited by miltoda; 05-30-2009 at 12:27 AM.
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05-29-2009, 05:05 PM
They do gravitate towards BMW's a lot, and they admit it too. I thought they were pretty fair on that test though, and it speaks well of the G35.
It's sort of like comparing the Genesis to the G37. Fairly decent price difference and the performance of the Hyundai is admittedly pretty good. Many of us will think the price difference is justified even if the Hyundai were to outgun the G37.
One thing I dont get, why the hell is the TL so slow for all that HP??
It's sort of like comparing the Genesis to the G37. Fairly decent price difference and the performance of the Hyundai is admittedly pretty good. Many of us will think the price difference is justified even if the Hyundai were to outgun the G37.
One thing I dont get, why the hell is the TL so slow for all that HP??
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05-29-2009, 05:06 PM
They do gravitate towards BMW's a lot, and they admit it too. I thought they were pretty fair on that test though, and it speaks well of the G35.
It's sort of like comparing the Genesis to the G37. Fairly decent price difference and the performance of the Hyundai is admittedly pretty good. Many of us will think the price difference is justified even if the Hyundai outguns the G37.
One thing I dont get, why the hell is the TL so slow for all that HP??
It's sort of like comparing the Genesis to the G37. Fairly decent price difference and the performance of the Hyundai is admittedly pretty good. Many of us will think the price difference is justified even if the Hyundai outguns the G37.
One thing I dont get, why the hell is the TL so slow for all that HP??
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C&D is more biased these days to BMWs. This article is proof. I remember reading this article and questioning whether I should cancel my subscription. It just did not make sense to me.
I actually test drove a 08 330i and it was smooth...silky smooth. Especially the clutch and tranny.
But then I asked myself, "do I really want to spend this kind of money on a brand and vehicle that has been plaqued by long term relibility issues?" E36 and E46 BMWs are now selling for "nothing" since they are out of warranty.
Then I asked myself - "do I want to spend that kind of money on a car that doesn't come with a limited slip standard OR even as an option? And pleather seats? " FAIL!
By the way, the Audi's interior was so sexy until I saw the seats! I think my office chair has more support and syle than those seats. FAIL!
If you want rwd and lots of fun driving, stick with the G. Nothing compares except maybe the Benz C Class and I Mercedes and Audi are just like BMW - money pits.
Granted I would never buy a new car but if I did, I'd still buy the G
I actually test drove a 08 330i and it was smooth...silky smooth. Especially the clutch and tranny.
But then I asked myself, "do I really want to spend this kind of money on a brand and vehicle that has been plaqued by long term relibility issues?" E36 and E46 BMWs are now selling for "nothing" since they are out of warranty.
Then I asked myself - "do I want to spend that kind of money on a car that doesn't come with a limited slip standard OR even as an option? And pleather seats? " FAIL!
By the way, the Audi's interior was so sexy until I saw the seats! I think my office chair has more support and syle than those seats. FAIL!
If you want rwd and lots of fun driving, stick with the G. Nothing compares except maybe the Benz C Class and I Mercedes and Audi are just like BMW - money pits.
Granted I would never buy a new car but if I did, I'd still buy the G
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05-29-2009, 09:45 PM
C&D is more biased these days to BMWs. This article is proof. I remember reading this article and questioning whether I should cancel my subscription. It just did not make sense to me.
I actually test drove a 08 330i and it was smooth...silky smooth. Especially the clutch and tranny.
But then I asked myself, "do I really want to spend this kind of money on a brand and vehicle that has been plaqued by long term relibility issues?" E36 and E46 BMWs are now selling for "nothing" since they are out of warranty.
Then I asked myself - "do I want to spend that kind of money on a car that doesn't come with a limited slip standard OR even as an option? And pleather seats? " FAIL!
By the way, the Audi's interior was so sexy until I saw the seats! I think my office chair has more support and syle than those seats. FAIL!
If you want rwd and lots of fun driving, stick with the G. Nothing compares except maybe the Benz C Class and I Mercedes and Audi are just like BMW - money pits.
Granted I would never buy a new car but if I did, I'd still buy the G
I actually test drove a 08 330i and it was smooth...silky smooth. Especially the clutch and tranny.
But then I asked myself, "do I really want to spend this kind of money on a brand and vehicle that has been plaqued by long term relibility issues?" E36 and E46 BMWs are now selling for "nothing" since they are out of warranty.
Then I asked myself - "do I want to spend that kind of money on a car that doesn't come with a limited slip standard OR even as an option? And pleather seats? " FAIL!
By the way, the Audi's interior was so sexy until I saw the seats! I think my office chair has more support and syle than those seats. FAIL!
If you want rwd and lots of fun driving, stick with the G. Nothing compares except maybe the Benz C Class and I Mercedes and Audi are just like BMW - money pits.
Granted I would never buy a new car but if I did, I'd still buy the G
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05-30-2009, 01:42 AM
i think if our G's engine was silky smooth it would win hand down everytime. my 200sx se-r has inline 4 its silky smooth i luv pushing it all the time but the G gets really rough at high rpms and sometimes its gets annoying. I luv driving the G and pushing it but on turns or rough pavement it does not induce confidence. It feels like "muscle car".
P.S. I luv the torque in first second and third gear though.
P.S. I luv the torque in first second and third gear though.
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repost - but yes the general consensus is that C/D is all over BMWs dingaling.
No matter what BMW will be the benchmark for anything. Although their last gen cars were excellent, the recent era cars aren't lightyears ahead of their competitors anymore.
Even Edmunds InsideLine which is a pretty fair, unbiased source has FOUR bemers in their long-term garage. They just got rid of their '07 G35S and absolutely loved it except for the clutch issues in the '07
No matter what BMW will be the benchmark for anything. Although their last gen cars were excellent, the recent era cars aren't lightyears ahead of their competitors anymore.
Even Edmunds InsideLine which is a pretty fair, unbiased source has FOUR bemers in their long-term garage. They just got rid of their '07 G35S and absolutely loved it except for the clutch issues in the '07
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In a straight line only. On a track the 328I handles better and has much better brakes. And let's not forget that sweet manual gearbox.
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Not in the North East. If you want RWD and excitement you can only find it in the the BMW dealerships. Most Infiniti dealers do not stock RWD in the North East and to obtain one you pay a premium. I should know I'm in the process of trying to obtain one myself.
I love the 328I. Before I bought my 08Xs I test drove a 335I & a 328I both 6 speeds with manual gearboxes and sport packages. And while the 335I was clearly faster I'd preferred the over all driving experience and balanced of the 328I better. If the 328I had a least 250HP's I would of bought one.
I love the 328I. Before I bought my 08Xs I test drove a 335I & a 328I both 6 speeds with manual gearboxes and sport packages. And while the 335I was clearly faster I'd preferred the over all driving experience and balanced of the 328I better. If the 328I had a least 250HP's I would of bought one.
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05-30-2009, 08:41 AM
Not in the North East. If you want RWD and excitement you can only find it in the the BMW dealerships. Most Infiniti dealers do not stock RWD in the North East and to obtain one you pay a premium. I should know I'm in the process of trying to obtain one myself.
I love the 328I. Before I bought my 08Xs I test drove a 335I & a 328I both 6 speeds with manual gearboxes and sport packages. And while the 335I was clearly faster I'd preferred the over all driving experience and balanced of the 328I better. If the 328I had a least 250HP's I would of bought one.
I love the 328I. Before I bought my 08Xs I test drove a 335I & a 328I both 6 speeds with manual gearboxes and sport packages. And while the 335I was clearly faster I'd preferred the over all driving experience and balanced of the 328I better. If the 328I had a least 250HP's I would of bought one.