$65 is highway robbery. my dealer also quoted me $45 as well for a "job" that probably would only take them less than 5 minutes. i respectfully declined.

 

x2!!

 

+1 Ignore/live with it and use a tire gauge.

If you cannot bear the light buy a tool to reset the tpms.

 

If I go the G route, worst case, I think I'll live with the light. Best case, I make lifetime TPMS resets for no charge part of my purchase deal.

My conclusion is "shame on Infiniti", indeed, for being so shortsighted not to cater to enthusiasts in the snow belt who would drive the G37 Sport year 'round using two sets of wheels/tires. How much would it cost for a little extra memory in the TPMS system EPROM and the few extra lines of software code to enable the TPMS system to recognize a winter set of sensors and a summer set of sensors? I'd be willing to pay the dealer once to add the second set of wheels and tires to TPMS memory without deleting the OEM set; but I'm not willing to pay twice per year with every swap...

I'm looking forward to seeing the 2010 changes (I hope the two new colors are a little less boring than the current set), but I'm not counting on TPMS system revisions. It's there by regulation, not by customer demand; which is probably why so many manufacturers like Infiniti didn't think the design of their system through to make it truly useful and convenient for all their customers.

 

+1 it took them 3 min to do it too

 

Is it a free service if you buy your tires/wheels/sensors there?

Does anyone know if these tools are available to the general public and how much they would cost?

 

Visited an Acura dealer today...

The TL TPMS system does not require reprogramming - ever. I could get a second set of wheels and tires with the Acura sensors and/or rotate to my heart's content. The system will always know the pressure being broadcast from each tire sensor from each corner of the car.

The Acura got a little less uglier for me today...

 

When I got my Blizzaks installed on my OEM rims this week, my tire guy said he reprograms the sensors for $35 for the set.

 

Just a question. Did the Acura get a little less uglier for you today because it's growing on you, or because you found out that their TPMS system doesn't require reprogramming? Certainly I hope that it's the first reason and not something as trivial as the Infiniti's TPMS system.

 

...that's like buying a car for the cup holders!

 

I think I'll keep my rear wheel drive performance sedan w/ PITA sensors over a Biffed out Accord w/ really nice air sensors
Do they have aftermarket front end dressup kits for TLs yet? I'm sure it'd be an improvement. It reminds me of what Mitsubishi did w/ the Latest editions of Galant/Diamante when they completely botched their front designs

Too bad the guys behind the Honda S2ks can't have some carry-over to Acuras' lineup. Now those are some bad-a$$ carvers.

 

Actually, I like the looks of the G37 better than the TL, but I could live with the TL from behind the steering wheel. Check out C&D's test numbers on their recent "short take road test" of the TL SHAWD 6MT and compare with C&D's numbers for a G37 6MT on the last sport sedan comparision test (note the TL on the comparison was the crappy 5-speed automatic version). The TL 6MT is in nearly the same ballpark performance-wise as the G37 6MT. Those numbers convince my seat of the pants test drive assessment of the two cars: The Acura has a more useable, flatter power curve compared to the peakier G37, or the Acura's final drive ratio is geared for quicker performance where the G tilted the compromise in favor of fuel economy (note both cars have the same EPA mileage figures, though). The 5 to 60 times, 30-50 and 50-70 times all tend to imply the Acura 6MT powertrain is tuned for better performance for running around typical speeds on public roads. I will certainly concede the G is likely a better track car where you can keep it in the 5000-7000 rpm band where its power seems to reside. Yes, you can drive the G that way on the daily commute, but that explains why so many G owners complain of much crappier fuel economy than the EPA figures.

Cost of ownership and convenience of ownership will play a factor in my final choice. The TL SHAWD with 6MT requires their tech package, pushing the MSRP to 43K. I'd get the G37 S 6MT with premium only; so, I could be looking at a 5-7K price difference, depending on how each dealer/manufacturer incentivizes me with their final drive-away deal. I predict my decision could come down to deciding if not having an annoying TPMS idiot light on for 4 months of the year and not having to rev the engine to put the power down is worth a few extra K...and, having owned cars with peaky power trains before, I think there's a distinct possibility I'd come to like revving the snot out of the G rather than view it as a detriment.

And before anyone accuses me of being an Acura fan boy, let me just state I've owned both Hondas and Nissans. My last Nissan was a 20th AE Maxima with 5MT from 2001 to 2007 - nice VQ engine, but probably the worst Nissan Maxima architecture developed at the height of Nissan's financial troubles prior to the Renault bail-out. My last Honda was a Prelude VTEC from '95 to 2001 (minivans would beat me rolling away from a traffic light until 5000 rpm). I'm currently leasing an '07 335 6MT that burns oil and loses coolant (fine for a lease, but I'm going back to long term ownership in 2010 - hence back to the reliability of Nissan or Honda).

Here's links to the C&D test sheets:
G37S 6MT: http://www.caranddriver.com/var/ezfl...a5a19cf81a.pdf
TL SHAWD 6MT: http://www.caranddriver.com/var/ezfl...304a1739aa.pdf

 

He may be ok with all seasons on the Acura 6 MT AWD but not on the G Sport.

So in reality the issue isn't the TPMS so much as AWD with a manual transmission.

 

I never thought i'd see the day someone would say a Honda would have a more usable, flatter curve than a Nissan

The differences between both cars do seem negligible. Although, with a much heavier G37 (versus a G35 Sedan, which would have been more comparable to the TL sedan), i think the G is holding its own pretty well. The advantage of AWD is certainly showing its adantages in the lower speed ranges.

Coming from a Maxima myself (a 5.5 gen) , i am loving the G's higher-rpm hauling capabilities. I could never get over how the 5.5 gen seemed to have been geared, and perhaps used the same exact engine configuration as the Pathfinder. My dyno sheets always showed more TQ than HP, same power being put down as on the Pathfinder. Go figure.

In any case, i wonder how the G37 would have fared against that TL if they were run on the same day?

 

I run my winter wheels without sensors. After a week, I don't even notice the tiny orange TPMS instrument light is on. To me, it's a waist of money paying any amount just to have the light off or to worry about the TPMS functioning for a few months. Just check your tires.