Awd + 6mt
#16
Good question, but they've been making it for years in their trucks (nissan) among tons of others. I just think most manufacturers are slowly going away from manual transmissions as we are in the minority. Pretty soon it'll be rare to find one if you're not buying a sportscar. That'll be a sad time to see. To be honest, most auto perform just as the manual and some do better in terms of 0-60/1/4 mile. After all that's what most of live for
#17
^No, No, No and NO!!!!! Not all of us live our lives a 1/4 at a time. The real 6mt will NEVER die. I know it's shrinking but any car marketed towards enthusiast will still have a good ol 6mt. The Toyota ft-86 for example coming out next year, will be priced in the low-mid 20s and they have already promised a real 6mt.
Audi and infiniti both have quite a ways to go before they can compare themselves to Acura/Lexus's reliability. It seems as though all the new German cars are plagued with electronic problems. Some people get lucky and don't run into this, but ALOT of people get lemons.
As far as awd 6mt... eh... my last car was AWD, I'm enjoying RWD for awhile
Audi and infiniti both have quite a ways to go before they can compare themselves to Acura/Lexus's reliability. It seems as though all the new German cars are plagued with electronic problems. Some people get lucky and don't run into this, but ALOT of people get lemons.
As far as awd 6mt... eh... my last car was AWD, I'm enjoying RWD for awhile
Last edited by _RR_; 04-11-2011 at 10:20 AM.
#18
^No, No, No and NO!!!!! Not all of us live our lives a 1/4 at a time. The real 6mt will NEVER die. I know it's shrinking but any car marketed towards enthusiast will still have a good ol 6mt. The Toyota ft-86 for example coming out next year, will be priced in the low-mid 20s and they have already promised a real 6mt.
Audi and infiniti both have quite a ways to go before they can compare themselves to Acura/Lexus's reliability. It seems as though all the new German cars are plagued with electronic problems. Some people get lucky and don't run into this, but ALOT of people get lemons.
As far as awd 6mt... eh... my last car was AWD, I'm enjoying RWD for awhile
Audi and infiniti both have quite a ways to go before they can compare themselves to Acura/Lexus's reliability. It seems as though all the new German cars are plagued with electronic problems. Some people get lucky and don't run into this, but ALOT of people get lemons.
As far as awd 6mt... eh... my last car was AWD, I'm enjoying RWD for awhile
Not sure when folks talk about reliability what exactly they're reffering to. I mean you speak as if infiniti is a trouble free vehicle, or is cheap to repair if out of warranty. All foreign cars are expensive to fix, sure some more that others.
6MT will NEVER die, you seem very optimistic about this. If the shrinking number are any indication on whats to come, then you won't have made that comment. The ones that will be available, trust me you and i won't buy. Like the toyota you speak of. How many horses does this have now? Is it a luxury vehicle? As society continues to do more things while on their way to work, ie make calls, setting up meetings, and generally getting lazier and lazier. The automatic is becoming more popular, hell in some manufacturers they're even cheaper than the manual. Imagine that!!
#19
I Never said infiniti= trouble free. Read my post
How many horses? Wtf are you talking about. My point is, that driver's cars will still have MTs, because it provides a more enjoyable driving experience.
Originally Posted by RR
Audi and infiniti both have quite a ways to go before they can compare themselves to Acura/Lexus's reliability
#22
you would think they would but it seems like they are staying away from V8, in a small car. All magazines were hoping the GTR would be a V8 but instead Nissan chose to do the TT V6, nothing bad about that, but wish that came in manual too. Not that I could have afforded it, but maybe a used one could have been in my future.
#23
I was deciding between an A4 Quattro and a G35x two months ago, and while I miss the stick, the manumatic is almost as good... and checking the reliability records on CR was enough to scare the bejeezus out of me (hint: Audi = all black (bad), Infiniti = almost all red (very good)). I think Infiniti just needs something on par with veedub's DSG which can shift faster than any manual, and there's no need for a stick.
BTW to those who think AWD is superfluous, I can tell you how it's pulled through like a champ driving at 6000' feet in Utah on a 7-10% grade on a mountainside in a blizzard with > a foot of snow on the road, with 4wd pickups driving in MY tracks. And I didn't even put snows on this season. Where I live, you have a good AWD or you sleep in your car while you wait 12 hours for the snow to stop and the roads to get plowed.
#24
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What he said.
I was deciding between an A4 Quattro and a G35x two months ago, and while I miss the stick, the manumatic is almost as good... and checking the reliability records on CR was enough to scare the bejeezus out of me (hint: Audi = all black (bad), Infiniti = almost all red (very good)). I think Infiniti just needs something on par with veedub's DSG which can shift faster than any manual, and there's no need for a stick.
I was deciding between an A4 Quattro and a G35x two months ago, and while I miss the stick, the manumatic is almost as good... and checking the reliability records on CR was enough to scare the bejeezus out of me (hint: Audi = all black (bad), Infiniti = almost all red (very good)). I think Infiniti just needs something on par with veedub's DSG which can shift faster than any manual, and there's no need for a stick.
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#27
I love that Acura gave it a 6MT and AWD, but the styling is just not cutting it. IIRC, its not that fast for the HP/displacement its kicking, not saying its a slouch.
Its a shame manual transmissions have become so rare. I also fear that Infiniti will ditch the manual, if not all together then I think they may delete it from the sedans, but here's hoping that won't occur. Honda killed the Accord sedan MT, Nissan killed the Maxima MT and now the Altima sedan MT is dead too . It's hard for a manufacturer to profit from such a small niche, most people opt for the auto. The emergence of sequential transmissions doesnt really help the old standard shift fight much either.
Its a shame manual transmissions have become so rare. I also fear that Infiniti will ditch the manual, if not all together then I think they may delete it from the sedans, but here's hoping that won't occur. Honda killed the Accord sedan MT, Nissan killed the Maxima MT and now the Altima sedan MT is dead too . It's hard for a manufacturer to profit from such a small niche, most people opt for the auto. The emergence of sequential transmissions doesnt really help the old standard shift fight much either.
#28
^ So true. I didn't know the Altima now lacks a MT. Just to clarify, we are talking the V6 option here only. I know Honda still make the MT in the coupe, not sure about the Altima though since i've never really looked at those as a potential purchase. I want to go test drive the SH-AWD just to see how it feels. No new purchase for me though as I've only had this one for 6 months, plus I've come to realize no car I can afford will satisfy my need for speed/thrill hence my purchase of a sportbike last year.
#29
eh, audi reliability still sucks in the 90's, 2000's, AND now. However, I agree that the audi fit/finish/interior is pretty nice.
#30
^ So true. I didn't know the Altima now lacks a MT. Just to clarify, we are talking the V6 option here only. I know Honda still make the MT in the coupe, not sure about the Altima though since i've never really looked at those as a potential purchase. I want to go test drive the SH-AWD just to see how it feels. No new purchase for me though as I've only had this one for 6 months, plus I've come to realize no car I can afford will satisfy my need for speed/thrill hence my purchase of a sportbike last year.
The Altima sedan is now all auto(CVT) only, MT available in I-4/V-6 in coupe. (Sad evidence of Nissan's dying MT breed). If they kill off the Altima coupe MT then I think the G sedan would be next, I know they're not the same platform but you can see the trend.