G37 Coupe V36 2008+ Discussion about the G37 Coupe

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Old 03-30-2007, 02:03 AM
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Originally Posted by ElixXxeR
Couldn't agree more. Trivial acceleration numbers are given way too much importance on this board. Handling is more important, and according to Edmunds, the new G37 is more fun than the 335i. Not that Edmunds is an ultimate authority and it will be interesting to see what other publications think, but we shall see.
Honestly it's not going to be too much faster than the current version because of its 200lb weight gain. Also the car's balance shifted 1% worse. They really didn't focus on the weight too much it seems.There is no reason why this car has to weigh this much. They should of also made the engine 350hp. People love acceleration and it is the most used performance dynamic while on the street. And it's stiff competition is using a killer engine and we all want to see Infiniti beat it's German competition in acceleration for less $.

I believe MT also said they thought it was funner to driver and better handling dynamics...
 

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Maybe infiniti spent more time in getting more ponys to the wheels on the G37!
 

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Originally Posted by ElixXxeR
Couldn't agree more. Trivial acceleration numbers are given way too much importance on this board. Handling is more important, and according to Edmunds, the new G37 is more fun than the 335i. Not that Edmunds is an ultimate authority and it will be interesting to see what other publications think, but we shall see.
There's no question that handling and braking are most important. Nevetheless, you can't deny the pleasure you get in having a car that has enough power to push you back into your seat when you hit the gas pedal. I'm not talking about driving insanely on public roads. Just the occassional 5-70 run on some deserted country road or highway. Unfortunately for me, the G35 doesn't have it, and I was hoping that the G37 would, but now I don't think so. I won't know for sure however until I take my test drive.
 
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Old 03-30-2007, 03:01 PM
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There's no question that handling and braking are most important. Nevetheless, you can't deny the pleasure you get in having a car that has enough power to push you back into your seat when you hit the gas pedal. I'm not talking about driving insanely on public roads. Just the occassional 5-70 run on some deserted country road or highway. Unfortunately for me, the G35 doesn't have it, and I was hoping that the G37 would, but now I don't think so. I won't know for sure however until I take my test drive.
Honestly I think you'll be surprised. It will definitely have a better HP:weight ratio than your current G.
 
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Old 03-30-2007, 08:10 PM
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Originally Posted by ElixXxeR
Couldn't agree more. Trivial acceleration numbers are given way too much importance on this board. Handling is more important, and according to Edmunds, the new G37 is more fun than the 335i. Not that Edmunds is an ultimate authority and it will be interesting to see what other publications think, but we shall see.
Hmm, I am on the fence about this one. For me, it is about driving feel above all else, so I would agree that handling plays a huge role. But, I would also plan to swap out the suspension if I get this car (still a huge "if" right now), so I am sure I can change it to my liking (even though I can't loose weight to increase the feel).

But, more importantly, the general American public, with it's long, straight roads typically prefers "push-you-back" acceleration. Just look at American muscle and why it is so popular. So, for the mass-market, acceleration is just as important, if not more so.

Especially in the near-luxury market that Infiniti is targeting (over the more performance-oriented group) -- I believe they tend to favor stoplight pulling power over carrying speed in the canyons.
 
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Old 03-30-2007, 10:26 PM
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Honestly I think you'll be surprised. It will definitely have a better HP:weight ratio than your current G.
I hope that you are right. The problem that I have is that most of my friends have high performance cars that I get to drive on a fairly routine basis. For example I've spent a lot of time recently behind the wheel of a Cayman S. Although that car only has 295 HP, it feels like a rocket ship because its curb weight is only 2950 lbs. The problem is that once I get behind the wheel of my car, it feels like a slug. The issue with heavy cars is that you need a lot more torque to get those suckers moving, and I highly doubt that 270 lb/ft of torque will do the trick for a car that weighs over 3700 lbs. But I certainly agree that I won't know for sure until I test drive the car.
 
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i would be surprised if this new 3.7 is better for daily driving than the bmw's older 3.3
 
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Originally Posted by See-Fu
i would be surprised if this new 3.7 is better for daily driving than the bmw's older 3.3
I would be surprised if you know what you're talking about at all.

BMW's 330i had a 3.0L inline-6.
 
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Originally Posted by See-Fu
i would be surprised if this new 3.7 is better for daily driving than the bmw's older 3.3
Why? Think of the VQ35DE with better torque across the entire range of RPM's. That's what everyone should expect.
 
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Originally Posted by trebien
Many more expensive or spots-oriented cars make over 100 hp per liter. No torque, but lots of power up high... which is a trade-off for a sports car to get the most out of the displacement. A la S2000....
4G63 anyone? Over 100 hp per liter and decent torque.
 
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4G63 anyone? Over 100 hp per liter and decent torque.
I assume you mean the 4G63T... the turbocharged variant.

I always wanted a Galant VR4... what a sleeper.
 
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4G63 anyone? Over 100 hp per liter and decent torque.
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I assume you mean the 4G63T... the turbocharged variant.
Ya, and "Over 100 hp per liter and decent torque" for a turbo'd 4-banger is not impressive... in fact, it's quite common.
 
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Ya, and "Over 100 hp per liter and decent torque" for a turbo'd 4-banger is not impressive... in fact, it's quite common.
The major tq on that engine is in the midrange. My brother own an EVO. We had 5 people in the car, going up a ramp from a dead stop and it almost stalled out. The 3.0L I6 TT from BMW is a better example. 100HP/L and 100ft-lb/L. That's not even talking about Vishnu and and 350WHP and 400wft-lb of tq.
 
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