What DO You Think of My Custom Intake Design?? *pics*
Originally Posted by Brando
Sorry....I don't thik it will help at all...and may actually hurt.
You think that Nissan engineers just slapped the intake system together and stuck it on the car??
The stock intake is engineered very well and is placed where it is to take advantage of a low pressure area created by the grill/hood.
About the only thing you can make better is the sound, as they designed to to be quiet.
JMO
You think that Nissan engineers just slapped the intake system together and stuck it on the car??
The stock intake is engineered very well and is placed where it is to take advantage of a low pressure area created by the grill/hood.
About the only thing you can make better is the sound, as they designed to to be quiet.
JMO
Someone brought up an idea in another thread about moving the power duct (i think that's what it's referred to as) further down as with the hood shut it hardly gets any airflow whatsoever. Something you might want to look into.
This weekend I hope to do something similar and make it breath a bit better and fabricate a new heat shield because this JWT one isn't doing it for me.
Originally Posted by Ivory GT
you might get better results if you use heat shields for the intake tube and cover up the intake box. Most problems with intake is not really the flow, heat soak is the issue.
Originally Posted by RebelinRI
[rant]I don't think the heat knows to stay away because of the shield (Oh no..... we can't go there..... see that shield?)[/rant]
I have to agree. Heatshields are a joke. It's the air that's the concern. If the air is hot, then power is going to go down. Also, the LAST thing you want in an intake is metal piping. Metal piping warms up and retains heat far better than plastic. The hot intake piping can heat up the air fractionally. Has for Injen/AEM CAIs, they're bad news. The air isn't following in that portion of the bumper therefore the chances are greater that the air is hot since the radiator is in close proximity. Also, the additional 12-14" in intake length is no good.
0.5 * rho * v^2
where rho = air density
Dynamic pressure at standard sea level atmosphere:
Dynamic Press Dynamic Pressure
kts mph ft/sec (lb/ft^2) (psi)
10 11.52 16.89 0.339063505 0.002354608
20 23.03 33.78 1.35625402 0.009418431
30 34.55 50.67 3.051571546 0.021191469
40 46.07 67.56 5.425016081 0.037673723
50 57.58 84.45 8.476587627 0.058865192
60 69.1 101.34 12.20628618 0.084765876
70 80.62 118.24 16.61411175 0.115375776
80 92.13 135.13 21.70006432 0.150694891
90 103.65 152.02 27.46414391 0.190723222
100 115.16 168.91 33.90635051 0.235460767
110 126.68 185.8 41.02668411 0.284907529
120 138.2 202.69 48.82514473 0.339063505
130 149.71 219.58 57.30173236 0.397928697
140 161.23 236.47 66.456447 0.461503104
150 172.75 253.36 76.28928864 0.529786727
As you see from above: 150 mph could generate 0.4 psi IF everything was PERFECT........unlikely without a windtunnel. Unfortunately 1 - 90 degree bend will reduce that to ZERO.
Each 1.0 psi =6.8% boost so at best 2.72% at 150 mph, at 103 mph 0.19 x 6.8= 1.292% say 1% if you are extremely lucky.
Years ago I measured my 90Q45 [one of the worst convoluted QUIET system known on earth looks very restrictive] HOWEVER at 120 mph the system became transparent [pressurewise in front of MAF] ZERO loss thru silencing and air filter by 155 mph I actually had 4.0" W.C. of positive pressure ---------a 1% BOOST.
where rho = air density
Dynamic pressure at standard sea level atmosphere:
Dynamic Press Dynamic Pressure
kts mph ft/sec (lb/ft^2) (psi)
10 11.52 16.89 0.339063505 0.002354608
20 23.03 33.78 1.35625402 0.009418431
30 34.55 50.67 3.051571546 0.021191469
40 46.07 67.56 5.425016081 0.037673723
50 57.58 84.45 8.476587627 0.058865192
60 69.1 101.34 12.20628618 0.084765876
70 80.62 118.24 16.61411175 0.115375776
80 92.13 135.13 21.70006432 0.150694891
90 103.65 152.02 27.46414391 0.190723222
100 115.16 168.91 33.90635051 0.235460767
110 126.68 185.8 41.02668411 0.284907529
120 138.2 202.69 48.82514473 0.339063505
130 149.71 219.58 57.30173236 0.397928697
140 161.23 236.47 66.456447 0.461503104
150 172.75 253.36 76.28928864 0.529786727
As you see from above: 150 mph could generate 0.4 psi IF everything was PERFECT........unlikely without a windtunnel. Unfortunately 1 - 90 degree bend will reduce that to ZERO.
Each 1.0 psi =6.8% boost so at best 2.72% at 150 mph, at 103 mph 0.19 x 6.8= 1.292% say 1% if you are extremely lucky.
Years ago I measured my 90Q45 [one of the worst convoluted QUIET system known on earth looks very restrictive] HOWEVER at 120 mph the system became transparent [pressurewise in front of MAF] ZERO loss thru silencing and air filter by 155 mph I actually had 4.0" W.C. of positive pressure ---------a 1% BOOST.
Last edited by Q45tech; Aug 17, 2006 at 01:08 PM.
Originally Posted by Q45tech
0.5 * rho * v^2
where rho = air density
Dynamic pressure at standard sea level atmosphere:
Dynamic Press Dynamic Pressure
kts mph ft/sec (lb/ft^2) (psi)
10 11.52 16.89 0.339063505 0.002354608
20 23.03 33.78 1.35625402 0.009418431
30 34.55 50.67 3.051571546 0.021191469
40 46.07 67.56 5.425016081 0.037673723
50 57.58 84.45 8.476587627 0.058865192
60 69.1 101.34 12.20628618 0.084765876
70 80.62 118.24 16.61411175 0.115375776
80 92.13 135.13 21.70006432 0.150694891
90 103.65 152.02 27.46414391 0.190723222
100 115.16 168.91 33.90635051 0.235460767
110 126.68 185.8 41.02668411 0.284907529
120 138.2 202.69 48.82514473 0.339063505
130 149.71 219.58 57.30173236 0.397928697
140 161.23 236.47 66.456447 0.461503104
150 172.75 253.36 76.28928864 0.529786727
As you see from above: 150 mph could generate 0.4 psi IF everything was PERFECT........unlikely without a windtunnel. Unfortunately 1 - 90 degree bend will reduce that to ZERO.
Each 1.0 psi =6.8% boost so at best 2.72% at 150 mph, at 103 mph 0.19 x 6.8= 1.292% say 1% if you are extremely lucky.
Years ago I measured my 90Q45 [one of the worst convoluted QUIET system known on earth looks very restrictive] HOWEVER at 120 mph the system became transparent [pressurewise in front of MAF] ZERO loss thru silencing and air filter by 155 mph I actually had 4.0" W.C. of positive pressure ---------a 1% BOOST.
where rho = air density
Dynamic pressure at standard sea level atmosphere:
Dynamic Press Dynamic Pressure
kts mph ft/sec (lb/ft^2) (psi)
10 11.52 16.89 0.339063505 0.002354608
20 23.03 33.78 1.35625402 0.009418431
30 34.55 50.67 3.051571546 0.021191469
40 46.07 67.56 5.425016081 0.037673723
50 57.58 84.45 8.476587627 0.058865192
60 69.1 101.34 12.20628618 0.084765876
70 80.62 118.24 16.61411175 0.115375776
80 92.13 135.13 21.70006432 0.150694891
90 103.65 152.02 27.46414391 0.190723222
100 115.16 168.91 33.90635051 0.235460767
110 126.68 185.8 41.02668411 0.284907529
120 138.2 202.69 48.82514473 0.339063505
130 149.71 219.58 57.30173236 0.397928697
140 161.23 236.47 66.456447 0.461503104
150 172.75 253.36 76.28928864 0.529786727
As you see from above: 150 mph could generate 0.4 psi IF everything was PERFECT........unlikely without a windtunnel. Unfortunately 1 - 90 degree bend will reduce that to ZERO.
Each 1.0 psi =6.8% boost so at best 2.72% at 150 mph, at 103 mph 0.19 x 6.8= 1.292% say 1% if you are extremely lucky.
Years ago I measured my 90Q45 [one of the worst convoluted QUIET system known on earth looks very restrictive] HOWEVER at 120 mph the system became transparent [pressurewise in front of MAF] ZERO loss thru silencing and air filter by 155 mph I actually had 4.0" W.C. of positive pressure ---------a 1% BOOST.
BTW, I totally agree with you on this and I've preached this very thing since I became a member.
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Originally Posted by DaveB
No one wants to hear that the stock intake is actually an excellent design.
for such small cost, I would jump on it if a solid 2hp could be shown.
I don't believe the dynos that show hp gain of 2-5 hp, because it's within
error bar range.
However, it doesn't mean the OEM intake could not be improved,
2007 Sedan supposed to come with an improved RAM air design that
give a few more HP. can't wait to see what does it look like or it's just BS.
Originally Posted by ma_sha1
However, it doesn't mean the OEM intake could not be improved,
2007 Sedan supposed to come with an improved RAM air design that
give a few more HP. can't wait to see what does it look like or it's just BS.
2007 Sedan supposed to come with an improved RAM air design that
give a few more HP. can't wait to see what does it look like or it's just BS.
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