$3.00 mod that will make HP/ and save your engine.
Oil in intake area.........
I just installed my MotorDyne ISO and didn't find
any oil but saw what appears to be discoloration
on two of the runners. Would Stillens catch can
be the answer for this problem? According to Stillen
their catch can will solve the problem of oil residue
finding it's way into the intake runners.
any oil but saw what appears to be discoloration
on two of the runners. Would Stillens catch can
be the answer for this problem? According to Stillen
their catch can will solve the problem of oil residue
finding it's way into the intake runners.
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I don't know HOW I missed this thread! Dennis, that is so completely obvious that it is scary. LOL! I am interested to see what you guys have come up with on that. I am sure it isn't like pouring oil into the intake (or more people would be complaining of knock/pinging) but like getting a bad tank of gas it is going to have an effect.
To the person who said if this were a problem we would get pinging - not necessarily true. This wouldn't be enough to cause MAJOR pinging and our engines have the knock sensor to "adjust" the engine for small problems. Basically this at the very least is likely to affect the readings on said sensor (by causing minor knock) and cause the engine to change up the timing, etc to compensate. Yes, we can run like this for the life of the engine and likely not notice but as with so many mods it is another *improvement* in the efficency of the engine - assuming this fix does the job.
To the person who said if this were a problem we would get pinging - not necessarily true. This wouldn't be enough to cause MAJOR pinging and our engines have the knock sensor to "adjust" the engine for small problems. Basically this at the very least is likely to affect the readings on said sensor (by causing minor knock) and cause the engine to change up the timing, etc to compensate. Yes, we can run like this for the life of the engine and likely not notice but as with so many mods it is another *improvement* in the efficency of the engine - assuming this fix does the job.
Alright....now I'm confused....
Everything I have read up to this point about the VQ's intake vent system says that there is a oneway valve on the passengers side hose and that you get NO oil in the intake from that side.
Everything I read said it is the hose on the drivers side that contributes to the oil in the intake....
I just installed a catch can, and there was NO oil in either line....clean as a whistle.
Everything I have read up to this point about the VQ's intake vent system says that there is a oneway valve on the passengers side hose and that you get NO oil in the intake from that side.
Everything I read said it is the hose on the drivers side that contributes to the oil in the intake....
I just installed a catch can, and there was NO oil in either line....clean as a whistle.
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From: So Calif / Utah
Originally Posted by truplay8
what ever happend PASTA???
Seems like you are using brands and qualities of oil that have too much evaporation [heavy vs light fraction] index.
Conventional oil base stock is horrible, semi synthetic [hydrogenized] is better, and synthetic is best.
The best oils lose 5% of volume in 2,000 miles, the worst about 20%......almost all of this must go thru PCV system.
NOACK VOLATILITY TEST ASM D-5800
http://www.savantgroup.com/papers/noack.sht
http://forms.gradsch.psu.edu/equity/...nonRaymond.pdf
http://www.osd.org.tr/17.pdf
"In 1996, volatility limits tightened to 22% with GF-2 oils’ entrance on the market, then were again lowered in 2001 – this time for all grades – to 15% (or 13% for European synthetic motor oils) with GF-3 oils’ introduction."
Conventional oil base stock is horrible, semi synthetic [hydrogenized] is better, and synthetic is best.
The best oils lose 5% of volume in 2,000 miles, the worst about 20%......almost all of this must go thru PCV system.
NOACK VOLATILITY TEST ASM D-5800
http://www.savantgroup.com/papers/noack.sht
http://forms.gradsch.psu.edu/equity/...nonRaymond.pdf
http://www.osd.org.tr/17.pdf
"In 1996, volatility limits tightened to 22% with GF-2 oils’ entrance on the market, then were again lowered in 2001 – this time for all grades – to 15% (or 13% for European synthetic motor oils) with GF-3 oils’ introduction."
Last edited by Q45tech; Feb 26, 2006 at 09:04 AM.
Well I did the MD spacer with 4500 miles on my car, and there WAS oil in the plenum. So I am interested in a catch can.....
As stated above, this is not a new thing and definately not specific to Nissan. I have done catch cans on several other brands of cars, and that filter WILL catch oil.
As stated above, this is not a new thing and definately not specific to Nissan. I have done catch cans on several other brands of cars, and that filter WILL catch oil.
The oil vapor condenses on the first cold [cooler than 200F] object. Obviously any device that " catches the oil vapor" without restricting the air flow doesn't do any damage to the emission calibration.
Originally Posted by ballisticus
It looks disturbing, but in reality the amount of oil there is insignificant as a percentage of volume consumed by the engine. It is merely accumulation of condensate from the oil mist/blowby gasses. It is highly recommended to turn over the ventilation in the crankcase frequently to prevent acidic condensate to form in the engine. If you really must filter it prior to intake, make sure it is of enough surface area to keep from clogging. An unventilated crankcase is BAD. Dont want to knock the mod, but hundreds of thousands of VQ live long, happy lives with the factory setup. I think it works OK as is.
I guess stranger things have happened even with some of the ebest engineers. It use to be that later model Toyota V6s were infamous for sludging up and self-destroying. Toyota had numerous warranty claims with those motors and it appears that the design flaw did escape R&D.
what filter should I buy? Or should I just buy the stillen or greddy oil catch can. Do these catch cans go where the filter Pasta installed is? I also noticed some oil in the plenum when I installed the MREV.



