He is careful inside but I don't believe that he uses that brand tint. He might be able to get it and install it for you. I'm not sure. I'll post his number tomorrow.

 

Should i get Huper Optik or Madico Onyx

Is there any visibility issues with either.

 

I'm not sure what percentage my tint is - but it is the darkest allowed in Colorado. I think it looks great with with the Garnet Fire paint.

 

I just got 5% Lumar tint all around and 40% on the entire windshield. During the day you can not see into the car at all, but it keeps the heat out completely and in Miami it definately helps.

 

15% Llumar sides/rear. Love it love it love it.

 

50% Windshield / 35% all around - Madico Onyx on my sedan.

Onyx vs. Huper.......they're in 2 diff categories of window films. First of all, Huper Optik is actually a commercial film (residential and commercial flat glass) while Onyx is an automotive film. Huper is a nano-tech film, which uses a 3 layer sputtering process to create maximum heat reduction while maintaining high visibility. The only downside to using Huper is there will be some "ghosting" effect on the rear glass due to heat shrinking. The film's properties are slight altered when us tinters use a heat gun to shrink the film to conform to the glass's contour shape. The "ghosting" is most prominent on curved glasses as it takes more shrinking to get the film to conform. This effect is minimized and is not too noticeable unless you actually look for it.

This is why Huper or any other nano film costs so much..........for us dealers, nano film is tougher to install and also approximately five times more than a standard metallized film to purchase.

 

Can you explain more about the ghosting deal your talking about? Is the glass cloudy?

~randy

 

"ghosting" is an effect created by heat shaping the film. Problem with nano-film is that it doesn't react well to heat shaping........heat shaping is necessary to get a one piece film to conform to the contours of a given rear glass. This effect looks like fogging or a cloudiness look at certain angles........no too visible with lighter tint shades. However, the amount of ghosting will depend on the skill level of the installer and the shape of the rear glass. The more contour there is for the rear glass, the more heat necessary to get the film to conform, which will cause more film properties distortion. Hope I didn't confuse everyone......

 

Huper Optik does have an automotive product line. Check out:

http://www.huperoptik.com/Automotive...t=NaviAuto.inc

I have 40% Huper Optik ceramic film on my back windows. The ghosting effect is minimal, but noticeable. This doesn’t bother me too much during the day time. But at night, it’s very noticeable as car headlights are distorted through the rear window. It’s kind of like a polarization effect. The car headlight beams seem to be distorted as they pass through the defrost lines in the rear window. I don’t remember seeing this before the film was applied.

Has anyone else with Huper Optik film noticed the distortion of car headlights through the rear window at night?

I spoke with the film installer, and they said they have seen this on Japanese cars and the Japanese glass was to blame. Apparently, Japanese cars use a special kind of glass? They offered to redo the tint job with another kind of film, but I’m undecided. Help!!

 

Huper's film is actually a commercial film that is used on autos as well, but it was not originally meant for cars. The film was never designed for heat shaping, which is why there is the ghosting effect taking place.........Huper's film was actually designed for flat glass, but later incorporated into autos....

As for the light refraction you are now seeing at night........this is normal for all tint applied to the rear glass. There is still some space between the film and the defroster lines, which causes light refraction at night time. To minimize some of this, have your installer push down the areas around the defroster some more after the film cures and dries.

 

35% works just fine. Doesn't look like it does much but it dropped the interior temperature in my car about 25 - 30 degrees while it was parked in the sun all day in the LA area with little or no visibility problem driving at night. The only part of the windshield that can be tinted is roughtly the top 6", there is a marking in the glass that shows the bottom limit. I think 35% is the max allowed in CA and while you can probably get away with darker tint sooner or later you will be cited for it. There are several sites with state-by-state tint information and any reputable shop will tell you what the max is and won't install anything darker. Limo's may come under a different section of the law.

 

Hi Wil

You mentioned above that "The film's properties are slight altered when us tinters use a heat gun to shrink the film to conform to the glass's contour shape".

Is this technology used only for Huper or used for Madico Onyx also.

 

Heat shaping in general is the same, but the technique of shrinking is different for nano-technology film as they tend to distort easier and is tougher to shrink because of the film's thickness.

As for film technology, there are only three films on the market that are considered true IR (infra-red / nano-film) tint - Huper, V-Kool, and Nano-Gram (by Madico). The technology between Huper and V-Kool are designed and implemented by one company while Nano-Gram uses a slightly different technology.......when it comes down to heat shaping ghosting could still appear for all IR films.

 

going in tomorrow to Tint Connection in Costa Mesa.... looking at 32% up front and 22% in back... or maybe 38% up front. solargard's got some weird numbers...

 

Limo Tint!