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Old Mar 12, 2007 | 01:48 PM
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yeah man...i emailed the DMV apparently i shouldnt even have gotten the clear corner one..he said clear covers are fine as long as the prizim shows up as amber which it was since the OEM bulbs are in there. what a total waste of time...late for work..now will need to take another unexpected half day or such to take care of this ticket...must be because of the first nice day in a while.
 
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Old Mar 12, 2007 | 01:57 PM
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That stinks. I think officially you have to have an orange reflector in the side marker?? I don't think the color of the bulb is going to pass that requirement.
 
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Old Mar 12, 2007 | 02:00 PM
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Really unsure madchef...the email from them said as long as the prizim is amber and when used it amber it should be fine. But do not take my word on it just going frmo what he said.
 
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Old Mar 12, 2007 | 04:27 PM
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Gabe, you can't do anything bout the exhaust ticket.. Your best bet is to appeal and just tell them your stock exhaust was busted and it was an alternate cheaper route or something...

Aftermarket/altered exhaust is what it is.. you don't have the stock one on.. they will pull you over.

They didn't get me for altered exhaust when I was pulled over last weekend thank god..

The turn signal thing, is the same route... altered lighting.. but I'm sure you can fight this one if you show them you have yellow bulbs..

I still don't know bout the whole insurance point system.. I'm fighting my license plate thing.
 
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Old Mar 12, 2007 | 04:50 PM
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Was this in mass or ct?
In mass, the exhaust level on cars can not be harsh or objectionable, regardless of whether or not it will pass emission tests. There is no specific dB level, just "with an exhaust system which has been modified in a manner which will amplify or increase the noise emitted by the exhaust. " ANY noise increase is unlawful under 90/16.

As far as the clear corners: You removed DOT required amber reflectors. It's a violation under 90/7.

I'd suggest just changing everything back to stock and appeal the ticket. If you have a decent driving record and fix the problems, hopefully they'll find you "not responsible". Both tickets will effect your insurance.
 
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Old Mar 12, 2007 | 05:03 PM
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It was in MA..i will change stuff back and appeal to get it off..i do have a pretty good driving record..only 1 other ticket for speeding so we'll see..but sucks knowin that it will effect insurance now. thanks for the insight g35mass, are you a cop or something? knowing the sectors chapters.
 
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Old Mar 12, 2007 | 05:13 PM
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That is some BS. For the exhaust if you have the decible certificate just bring it in and tell them that 95db is what the state allows for noise level on exhaust (I believe that is what it someone correct if wrong). Most exhaust are rated for 93db's. For all my exhaust tickets I just brought in the certificate from the manufacturer and a DB test result to show I was in compliance. As far as clear corners go that is beatable. It's not a device for signaling and it is just a marker one the car which does not jeaporidized anyones safety. I'd tell them it came like that. Sounds like the cop may have been mad that he is whipping the Ford to work an not the G...lol. Good luck though.
 
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Old Mar 12, 2007 | 05:16 PM
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Question Doug.....what if the lights/lenses/reflectors are approved DOT spec? You know how some cars replace the complete lense and lense clearly states DOT approved then what?
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As far as the clear corners: You removed DOT required amber reflectors. It's a violation under 90/7.
 
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Old Mar 12, 2007 | 05:19 PM
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Oh sorry for so many post but check this out. They tried to enact a bill for exhaust modification and it was turned down again in October of 2006.

http://www.semasan.com/images/df1006_final.pdf
 
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Old Mar 12, 2007 | 05:19 PM
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Actually Hi-Tech i mentioned the dB law to him..he said there is none like G35Mass stated...he said if its louder than stock its illegal pretty much. I said i could get the certificate that says its < 95dB but he said it is against the law etc..so not really sure.
 
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Old Mar 12, 2007 | 06:18 PM
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lol hi tech always trying to bring out the laws, man o man no matter what u say or do, there no way out of the exhuast ticket =0( unless its ur lucky day

its just like that, same with abt the tint law, cops interprate them how they want to =0( sad

ive been thru this BS b4 and its more of a delema then a pleasure of having the exuast, but u should be fine with the lens

Good luck Man

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Old Mar 12, 2007 | 06:53 PM
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There is no dB law in MA.. That is only a California thing..

The MA law states ANY AFTERMARKET/ALTERED exhaust is illegal. I've been through this a few times and it's a losing battle. Hence why I try to stay out of trouble with quiet/stock looking exhaust these days..
 
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Old Mar 12, 2007 | 07:10 PM
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New York State -- altered muffler ticket you can fight b/c i've won plenty of them. bring it into a muffler shop and run a dB test with receipt... as far as the light goes. take a picture of the OEM orange lense and you'll be fine
 
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Old Mar 12, 2007 | 08:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Down_Shift
There is no dB law in MA.. That is only a California thing..

The MA law states ANY AFTERMARKET/ALTERED exhaust is illegal. I've been through this a few times and it's a losing battle. Hence why I try to stay out of trouble with quiet/stock looking exhaust these days..
i thought that law never passed and they're trying to pass it again...



Massachusetts Bill to Ban the Sale/Installation of Aftermarket Exhaust Systems Is Back . . . Again

After being stalled for the last several years, a bill (H.B. 3574) to ban the sale or installation of “an exhaust system which has been modified in a manner which will amplify or increase the noise emitted by the exhaust” has been reintroduced by Rep. Liz Malia (Rep.LizMalia@hou.state.ma.us). The bill excludes limited-use “antique motor cars” from its scope - a clear attempt by the bill’s sponsor to divide the automobile hobby in an effort to gain clearer sailing for this restrictive and damaging piece of legislation. H.B. 3574 has been referred to the Joint Transportation Committee.

We Urge You to Contact the Members of the Joint Transportation Committee (List Below) Immediately to Request Their Opposition to H.B. 3574

H.B. 3574 ignores the fact that aftermarket exhaust systems are designed to make vehicles run more efficiently without increasing emissions.

H.B. 3574 does not supply law enforcement with a clear standard to enforce, allowing them to make subjective judgments on whether or not a modified exhaust system is in violation.

H.B. 3574 fails to recognize that aftermarket exhaust systems offer increased performance, which can make a vehicle safer by improving its ability to merge, pass, travel uphill, etc.

H.B. 3574 would make it difficult for hobbyists to replace factory exhaust systems with more durable, better performing options.

H.B. 3574 would only exclude “antique motor cars” defined as those vehicles over 25-years old which are used exclusively for exhibitions, club activities, parades, etc.
DON’T DELAY! Please contact members of the Massachusetts Joint Transportation Committee immediately by phone or e-mail to request their opposition to H.B. 3574.

Please e-mail a copy of your letter to Steve McDonald at stevem@sema.org. Thank you for your assistance.


Massachusetts Joint Transportation Committee
 
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Old Mar 12, 2007 | 11:50 PM
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The specific dB law refers ONLY to Motorcycles. In mass, any altering of the exhaust which results in a single dB increase (on a car) is in violation. Motorcycles have a specific dB level that can not be exceeded (when measured at a certain distance, when the engine is revved half-way to the red-line on the tac)

There is no such thing as "DOT Approved" Parts. the DOT couldn't possibly approve every part going on cars from factories, never mind aftermarket. The DOT stamp you see on factory parts means it meets or exceeds DOT specifications.
Anyone can put DOT on any part. Doesn't mean it meets specs. I don't know how a clear lens will reflect yellow/amber. It may light up amber because of the color of the bulb inside, but what color will it appear when light from another car's headlight shines on it? The purpose of the front amber and rear red reflector lenses is so that oncoming cars can see the size of, and the direction of travel, of a car, in the event it's lights are off. It's like all those cool lights on big-rigs, they help you identify the size/shape of the vehicle.

Most mass courts are pretty easy on m/v violations, if you have a decent driving record. It's a liberal state where convictions are near-impossible for serious felonies, the yuppies don't care about mv stuff...
 
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