What happens is, when an officer runs the VIN on your vehicle through CLETS, it will give the officer the full registration information. Including the license plate number assigned to that vehicle. Even if you don't have the plate in your hot little hand yet, the DMV says there is a plate number assigned to the vehicle. The meter maid hears this through their dispatcher and POW... 5200(a) VC- two plates required citation. The latest rage we are seeing are vehicles, especially Hummer owners, that ride around for years with paper plates on. They think it looks cool as if they just purchased a new car. In some cases people do it and don't pay registration for years, hoping that an officer won't stop them cause it looks like a new car and probably doesn't have any plates yet. Or they drive like A-holes all the time and don't want anyone to call their license plate number in. Motorcycles especially in this case. So when the meter maid sees that there is a plate assigned, he/she is just assuming that the owner just doesn't want to plate on. If you are in California, you and your vehicle are subject to every law in California. I've preached the no front plate rule so many times, everyone is probably sick of it. But here are a couple of sections to be aware of. Get enough no front plate tickets or window tint, these two sections may start to come into play:

24004. No person shall operate any vehicle or combination of
vehicles after notice by a peace officer, as defined in Section 830.1
or subdivision (a) of Section 830.2 of the Penal Code, that the
vehicle is in an unsafe condition or is not equipped as required by
this code, except as may be necessary to return the vehicle or
combination of vehicles to the residence or place of business of the
owner or driver or to a garage, until the vehicle and its equipment
have been made to conform with the requirements of this code.

Meaning 1 point, moving violation

And,
40000.28. Any offense which would otherwise be an infraction is a
misdemeanor if a defendant has been convicted of three or more violations of this code or any local ordinance adopted pursuant to
this code within the 12-month period immediately preceding the
commission of the offense and such prior convictions are admitted by
the defendant or alleged in the accusatory pleading. For this
purpose, a bail forfeiture shall be deemed to be a conviction of the
offense charged.

 

Can a meter maid ran a VIN check or if they do at regular basis? If the plate number was being assigned recently, wouldnt he/she give it some lead way?

 

I don't know specifically what a meter maids procedures are (cause we don't have those in the CHP, we write parking tickets ourselves). On our parking tickets, not onlyl can we cite parking violations, but we can cite mechanical and registration violations as well. I would assume a meter maid, which is a parking enforcement officer, can run a VIN on any vehicle that he wants to. I would also assume that if they see a car with no plates, they want to see if the registration is paid since there are no month and year tabs to go by. Even with a plate displaying current tabs, it could still be expired. People steal year stickers all the time. I sure hope they are citing expired registration, cause registration fees is where my paycheck comes from. When we do a registration check, it doesn't always tell us when the plates were issued. So if the plate number shows on the registration check, the meter maid is going to assume that the plate should be on the car.

 

Yes they do, I got ticket for it before, but thing is I did pay, just have not received the new one in the mail yet. So it lead to believe that they didnt actullay or cant run a VIN/plate check, if they had? it would've said it is paid, cus I received the new registration tag two days later.

 

Yes Skeleton you are correct. What's illegal is illegal. My apologies on the word choice there not meeting your standards. But I don't necessarily need you feeling like you have to bestow some sort of fatherly wisdom on me. If you only knew all the CRAP I've gone through in my life living in Pleasanton, driving legal cars legally, then you'd understand why I sometimes let the word harassed slip.

And how is it not "harassing" me when the cop pulls me over and I SHOW him the paperwork with my extension until June and he keeps me there for 15 more minutes asking me every step I'm going to take to fix it and lecturing me on why I'd better not mod a stock car? Let me go about my day, and he can go about his.

 

I havnt got pulled over for tint yet, but in my civic i got pulled over for Speeding + Modified Exhaust + Tint. :-/ i had to take off tint to get it signed off. other then that it time i havnt really got harrassed about anything i got 30 or 35% all around i forget.

 

Just had my driver and passenger window tint removed. Car feels naked without the side windows being tinted . Now i have to talk it to the CHP and get it signed off.

 

best of luck getting that resolved

 

You don't have to have the CHP sign the ticket off. Any police officer or deputy sheriff can.

 

I think these little things like no front plate, tinted windows, blue lights, etc... isbunch of bs. This is just a way for the state to make money for their budget and cops to meet their quotas. I have gotten over 25+ tickets w/ 3 different cars for no front plate, tinted windows, blue lights, too low, etc... I am sure there is no limit cuz every time i was able to write it off or maybe it was just my luck. As far as I know, the front plate is needed because the laser of gun bounces off the plate and gives the the b**** a** cops the best reading of your speed. Don't qoute me on this, I am just passing on the info. that I was told by a sac sherrif and ch officer.

 

Front plates have been required on vehicles long before LIDAR was invented. So there goes that arguement.

 

Wow, so much bad information in this post. Next time just keep the urban legends to yourself.

 

Here is what Edmunds Inside Line stated about cops using the front plate to catch speed " Cops are trained to aim the laser guns at highly reflective license plates and headlights in the 17 states that do not require front plates."

In addition, Like I said all these little infractions are a revenue for the state and here are some numbers from LA Times on how much the state makes for little infractions like no front plate "$4.1 million in front license plate tickets alone - 164,000 tickets at $25 a pop"

Here is a petition that was written about this BS law

To: CA Legislators
We, the Undersigned, petition the State of California to revoke the current law requiring the display of a front license plate on passenger vehicles.
We support the current and future licensing fee structure, but ask that the law reflect that a front license plate is no longer required. We believe that there are significant benefits in not requiring front license plates and our reasons for this belief are briefly summarized in the paragraphs below.

First, eliminating the need for a front license plate will significantly reduce the state costs associated with production, storage, and shipping. Second, a front license plate restricts the performance of passenger vehicles. Modern cars aren't being designed with front plates in mind anymore, because mounting brackets that are necessary to hold the plates interfere with the cars' aerodynamics and often get damaged during the car-washing process. Third, unnecessary damage is sustained from minor bumper-to-bumper collisions, because the front mounting brackets on passenger cars can cause cracks and abrasions to the rear bumpers of the cars that they hit. Finally, police officers will be more productive in stopping dangerous motor vehicle violations such as drunk driving, reckless driving, speeding, etc., because their time won't be compromised by a California motorist who simply didn't have a front license plate on display.

Law enforcement officials might be opposed to a measure abolishing the front license plate requirement, because they might believe that losing the extra plate will make it more difficult for them to do their jobs in the best possible manner. However, in the 20 or more states that have abolished the front license plate requirement, there is no evidence of a decline in public safety as a result of the plate removal. "

I rest my case, so I think you should do some more research buddy before you make yourself look even more retarted

 

FACT: Police do not have quotas and front plates are not required for LIDAR.

You posted a petition written by some yahoo and in that petition there is nothing to back up your misinformed statements.

I still call BS that you were told that you were told that by not one but two LEO's.

I don't like the front plate and tint laws either, but I'm not going to **** and moan about getting a ticket for them either. If I am in violation and I get a ticket it's not the officers fault it's MY fault. Furthermore, the Police use infractions as a tool to make contact with drivers that may be breaking more significant laws. Ask your two LEO buddies how many times a simple traffic stop for no front plate, tint, etc. turned into the arrest of a DUI suspect, a drug bust, a weapons arrest, a warrant arrest of a dangerous felon, etc. Go ahead, ask them.

So you have received 25+ tickets for the same infractions over the years and I'm the one that's retarded???

 

Again, there you go w/ your nonsense. My really good friend Bryan, his dad a 30 yr officer for chp has said numerous times that they have quotas and whatever you read online about them not having quotas is bunch of BS. As a matter of fact, if you would like we can do a 3 way and you can hear it for yourself. My previous post backs everything up that I said, small infractions, for example; front plates are a good source of revenue for the state, cops are trained to use radar guns on plates and they are wasting time on chasing people down for little bs when they should be chasing drunk drivers & reckless drivers because it is them that kill people and not plates, tint, blue lights, etc.... Come on now doesn't that make sense or is just me? I know I got a lot of small infraction tickets oh well I pay for them. I am not complaining about nothing just stating my opinion what I think about it and sharing some facts w/ ppl like yourself that don't do their research before opening their mouth! Anyways, this is not an argument or a battle just a cool place for ppl to share their ideas and thoughts. Peace!