New radar that defeats Valentine-1?
#16
10-10-2007 | 12:55 PM
Originally Posted by Oceanside350z
What you experienced is a LIDAR unit. LIDAR is the new, RADAR is the old. Most agencies have completely switched to LIDAR. RADAR uses radio waves to calculate speed based on the momentum (compression / stretch) change in the radio waves it sends out. These can be detected by the units you guys use in your vehicles. Additionally, when an officer is using radar, the unit consistently sends out these waves even when the officer is not actively pointing the unit, this allows your RADAR detecter to detect the waves prior to the officer getting your speed. Now that your educated on that, let me give you the bad news.
LIDAR is very very different than radar. Instead of radio waves, a LIDAR unit uses an invisible laser to "paint" your vehicle. Based on the reflection of the light, it also calculates your momentum towards the unit giving the officer not only the speed of the target, but the distance it was acquired at (ie 75mph @ 755.5 ft away). Another big difference between LIDAR and RADAR is LIDAR is target specific. While using LIDAR, you point the reticule directly at a vehicle (even if the vehicle is traveling in a large pack) and you can obtain ONLY that vehicles speed. This eliminates the defense of "it was the car next to me that gave you the reading" The beam width of a LIDAR at 1000 ft is 2ft wide<<<thats how specific it is.
To make a long story short, RADAR detecters are / or should be obsolete. If you get a LIDAR ticket they are very very hard to fight. Hope this answers your question.
LIDAR is very very different than radar. Instead of radio waves, a LIDAR unit uses an invisible laser to "paint" your vehicle. Based on the reflection of the light, it also calculates your momentum towards the unit giving the officer not only the speed of the target, but the distance it was acquired at (ie 75mph @ 755.5 ft away). Another big difference between LIDAR and RADAR is LIDAR is target specific. While using LIDAR, you point the reticule directly at a vehicle (even if the vehicle is traveling in a large pack) and you can obtain ONLY that vehicles speed. This eliminates the defense of "it was the car next to me that gave you the reading" The beam width of a LIDAR at 1000 ft is 2ft wide<<<thats how specific it is.
To make a long story short, RADAR detecters are / or should be obsolete. If you get a LIDAR ticket they are very very hard to fight. Hope this answers your question.
#18
10-10-2007 | 12:56 PM
Originally Posted by ReaLZ1
Isn't it also true that once you sign that TICKET, you are agreeing to the cops take on what happened, which can be an admission of guilt already?
anyone know?
anyone know?
#19
10-10-2007 | 12:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Klubbheads
Not true, The cop does NOT need any kind of evidence besides the copy of the ticket to get the judge to believe that u are guilty if u are under the age of 30.
https://g35driver.com/forums/lounge-off-topic/145266-had-trial-speeding.html
https://g35driver.com/forums/lounge-off-topic/145266-had-trial-speeding.html
#20
10-10-2007 | 12:59 PM
#21
10-10-2007 | 01:00 PM
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From: Ladera Ranch / San Clemente
Originally Posted by ReaLZ1
I agree....
BUT, im sure that after all the tests are performed that a law will be passed some time down the line. All it takes is TIME. It looks like this has been in the works since 05.
BUT, im sure that after all the tests are performed that a law will be passed some time down the line. All it takes is TIME. It looks like this has been in the works since 05.
#23
10-10-2007 | 01:03 PM
Originally Posted by izmir41500
proven accuracy of the hand held device? i'm not up to date on this new technology, but i believe a stationary camera would be better/more accurate. either way, sucks for speeders.
#30
10-10-2007 | 05:58 PM
Hey Ted,
I'm fairly certain you were lasered by a LIDAR ... probably the Pro-Lite unit.
Did it look like any of these?
Many traffic enforcements have migrated from RADAR to LIDAR, so this is all too expected. The binocular styled Pro-Lite is one of the more recent models being deployed. Just be glad LIDAR is out numbered by RADAR and in the mean time can only be operated from a stand still.
While you're Valentine, along with units from Escort, Bell, etc., does detect LIDAR, they can't do so if there's no "light" to detect. Because the projected laser beam is fairly tight (especially at close range) and with little to no dispersion, the detector probably never saw it. So unless the cop was aiming near your detector (doubtful, since they are trained to aim for the license plate or head/rear-light assembly) or they attempted to zap you from max distance ... you're likely SOL.
I find my V1 a great tool for locating Infiniti FX equipped w. laser adaptive cruise control.
I'm fairly certain you were lasered by a LIDAR ... probably the Pro-Lite unit.
Did it look like any of these?
Many traffic enforcements have migrated from RADAR to LIDAR, so this is all too expected. The binocular styled Pro-Lite is one of the more recent models being deployed. Just be glad LIDAR is out numbered by RADAR and in the mean time can only be operated from a stand still.
While you're Valentine, along with units from Escort, Bell, etc., does detect LIDAR, they can't do so if there's no "light" to detect. Because the projected laser beam is fairly tight (especially at close range) and with little to no dispersion, the detector probably never saw it. So unless the cop was aiming near your detector (doubtful, since they are trained to aim for the license plate or head/rear-light assembly) or they attempted to zap you from max distance ... you're likely SOL.
I find my V1 a great tool for locating Infiniti FX equipped w. laser adaptive cruise control.
Last edited by THX723; 10-11-2007 at 01:26 AM.