Exhaust Ticket, Need Your Input
#1
01-13-2010, 06:18 AM
Exhaust Ticket, Need Your Input
So basically i got pulled over for modified exhaust in Riverside --27151(2) VC
I'm currently running a Nismo S-tune Catback.
The cop asks me if i had any knowledge that i had an "aftermarket exhaust". I tell him i have an exhaust system but it's a factory exhaust. He writes me the citation anyways and then tells me that if i can get the Infiniti dealer to certify that my exhaust (Nismo S-Tune) is indeed a factory exhaust system that is compliant with California regulations and that it can be purchased & installed as a factory add on from the dealer, then my ticket can be dismissed. Also, the citation indicates that this is a "correctable violation" so i should use that to my advantage. I mean, this is complete BS...my Nismo catback isn't even "aftermarket" in this sense since Nismo S-tune parts are genuine factory accessories for Nissans & Infinitis.
With that i have a few questions:
1) If i want to get the ticket signed off, do i go to a police station or ref station?
2) What kind of "fixes" do the police station and ref station look for? Sound? Smog? Visual? Explain.
3) I've never heard of anyone getting documentation from the dealer to certify that an exhaust system is factory spec...but since the cop has told me of this option, do you think Riverside Infiniti (or any dealer) can hook it up with any sort of documentation?
4) Would such documentation be sufficient to get my ticket signed off at a police/ref station or would it only be useful in court?
5) I'd really hate to go back to stock so if all else fails imma just pay the fine & keep my setup, but how many times can i do this? Will there be an increase in fines with subsequent violations?
Please share any knowledge and experiences you have regarding my situation. Thanks for reading
I'm currently running a Nismo S-tune Catback.
The cop asks me if i had any knowledge that i had an "aftermarket exhaust". I tell him i have an exhaust system but it's a factory exhaust. He writes me the citation anyways and then tells me that if i can get the Infiniti dealer to certify that my exhaust (Nismo S-Tune) is indeed a factory exhaust system that is compliant with California regulations and that it can be purchased & installed as a factory add on from the dealer, then my ticket can be dismissed. Also, the citation indicates that this is a "correctable violation" so i should use that to my advantage. I mean, this is complete BS...my Nismo catback isn't even "aftermarket" in this sense since Nismo S-tune parts are genuine factory accessories for Nissans & Infinitis.
With that i have a few questions:
1) If i want to get the ticket signed off, do i go to a police station or ref station?
2) What kind of "fixes" do the police station and ref station look for? Sound? Smog? Visual? Explain.
3) I've never heard of anyone getting documentation from the dealer to certify that an exhaust system is factory spec...but since the cop has told me of this option, do you think Riverside Infiniti (or any dealer) can hook it up with any sort of documentation?
4) Would such documentation be sufficient to get my ticket signed off at a police/ref station or would it only be useful in court?
5) I'd really hate to go back to stock so if all else fails imma just pay the fine & keep my setup, but how many times can i do this? Will there be an increase in fines with subsequent violations?
Please share any knowledge and experiences you have regarding my situation. Thanks for reading
#2
01-13-2010, 12:00 PM
it is 50 state legal, i know i have it
just got to your nearest chp station and say it was corrected and they will sign it off
then u must go to the courthouse where it was assigned then pay a $25 court doc fee
then ur off, but keep that ticket to show that your exhaust is legal next time the pop0's pull u over for it
hope that helps
just got to your nearest chp station and say it was corrected and they will sign it off
then u must go to the courthouse where it was assigned then pay a $25 court doc fee
then ur off, but keep that ticket to show that your exhaust is legal next time the pop0's pull u over for it
hope that helps
#3
01-13-2010, 12:12 PM
#4
01-13-2010, 12:27 PM
#5
01-13-2010, 12:35 PM
no matter what you say or do. its still a fix a ticket and did not come with the vehicle. Any modification done to the car is illegal. Just put back your oem exhaust, get it signed and cleared.
or do what others have posted but some cops can be jerks, when it comes to signing off the ticket.
or do what others have posted but some cops can be jerks, when it comes to signing off the ticket.
#6
01-13-2010, 03:10 PM
for those of you who got your exhaust ticket signed off, what do they look for?
like is it just a visual inspection or do they make you start your car and rev for a bit?
Because if that's the case, i'd rather just make an appointment for a ref station because i'm 100% sure a Nismo exhaust is not over 95 decibels
like is it just a visual inspection or do they make you start your car and rev for a bit?
Because if that's the case, i'd rather just make an appointment for a ref station because i'm 100% sure a Nismo exhaust is not over 95 decibels
#7
01-13-2010, 03:22 PM
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#8
01-13-2010, 04:07 PM
#9
01-13-2010, 04:17 PM
With that i have a few questions:
1) If i want to get the ticket signed off, do i go to a police station or ref station?
To get signed off, CHP or Sheriff's. Ref station is only there for inspection and they can give you documentation.
2) What kind of "fixes" do the police station and ref station look for? Sound? Smog? Visual? Explain.
Depends. If you have a ticket for loud exhaust, then the ref only looks at the sound level. If they think you have an illegal exhaust or something, then probably a full test where they see if you pass both visual inspection (full inspection including under your hood, etc even though you didn't get cited for that) and an actual run on the machine to see if you pass emissions.
3) I've never heard of anyone getting documentation from the dealer to certify that an exhaust system is factory spec...but since the cop has told me of this option, do you think Riverside Infiniti (or any dealer) can hook it up with any sort of documentation?
You may not need documentation. You can get a written document from an Infiniti representative stating that the exhaust is legal, but it has to be considered legal for your vehicle, your vehicle meaning same year, model, etc. Quick example: I got a ticket for intake, I had the E.O. # and cop still wanted papers...State ref said it's not needed, but I failed visual inspection because the E.O. # did not match my year, it was for 02-04 G35, I have an '06. I would have to get the correct E.O. # to have passed...I had bought it used so nothing I can do to argue...cops or state ref will use that against you saying it may be legal for another car, or even same car, different year, but it has be documented as legal for your year, etc.
4) Would such documentation be sufficient to get my ticket signed off at a police/ref station or would it only be useful in court?
Depends on where you've been told to go. If you were told to go to the state ref, there should be some info on the back of the ticket telling you where to go. You can call the law enforcement agency that cited you and ask them (prob the best thing to do). If you have proof that states what you have is legal on your vehicle, then that should be sufficient for the police station/sheriff/chp office that reviews it. State ref I'm going to say yes, that should be sufficient as well, but I'm not 100% sure, they may still a visual inspection and such if it is required.
5) I'd really hate to go back to stock so if all else fails imma just pay the fine & keep my setup, but how many times can i do this? Will there be an increase in fines with subsequent violations?
Don't really know the answer to this, but the fine can increase and I think it can get to a point where they can take your vehicle away (3rd time or after the 3rd time). I'm not even near anywhere sure about this, but I think it may be a possibility.
no matter what you say or do. its still a fix a ticket and did not come with the vehicle. Any modification done to the car is illegal. Just put back your oem exhaust, get it signed and cleared.
or do what others have posted but some cops can be jerks, when it comes to signing off the ticket.
or do what others have posted but some cops can be jerks, when it comes to signing off the ticket.
#10
01-13-2010, 04:19 PM
#11
01-13-2010, 04:23 PM
the ticket says "27151(2) VC -Modified Exhaust"
Even when he pulled me over, he mentioned nothing of the sound, he just kept saying that its aftermarket and its illegal and all that BS
so it's just a visual huh? do you think nismo would pass visual, i mean it looks EXACTLY like OEM
Even when he pulled me over, he mentioned nothing of the sound, he just kept saying that its aftermarket and its illegal and all that BS
so it's just a visual huh? do you think nismo would pass visual, i mean it looks EXACTLY like OEM
As I mentioned previously, you can take it to the state ref. Maybe call them up and explain your situation. They'll run a visual inspection and put you a dyno like device. They'll give you a printout showing you passed, etc, and you can show that to the court and that will dismiss it, but find out if it would dismiss it from the court. If it doesn't, fight it and use the state ref printout as your evidence to show that it is not illegal, passes emissions and everything, and even the sound test. You may have to request a sound test as well, but since you weren't cited for it, you don't have to worry about it as it was not what you got cited for..at least to my belief you won't need to but that could always be at the discretion of the court. Also, verify the amount to be charged for doing such a test with the state ref so you don't go in there paying a bundle and not knowing.
#12
01-13-2010, 04:24 PM
Responded above. You got stuck with an ignorant cop...really sucks..came across several of those and fighting tickets because of it. Waste of mine time, government's time, etc....but it's how they get their money cos the state is in such a budget crisis.
That's untrue. You can put an intake on your car and it can be legal, same with an exhaust. As long as you have an E.O. # you're good. You can change headlights, tail lights, etc... as long as they are SAE and DOT approved you're fine. There are aftermarket parts that are legal.
That's untrue. You can put an intake on your car and it can be legal, same with an exhaust. As long as you have an E.O. # you're good. You can change headlights, tail lights, etc... as long as they are SAE and DOT approved you're fine. There are aftermarket parts that are legal.
your wrong buddy! any modification done to vehicle is illegal in Cali. Yes we all do it, but its illegal. Cops dont bust everyone cause then they'll have to pull every car over.
You can still get a fix a ticket for having a carb sticker on your intake. Its a fix a ticket that must be corrected.
If your upgrading oem parts that the car comes with, then cops wouldn't tell the difference. (thats a loophole)
In his case G35 didn't come with a Nismo exhaust. It could pass the decimal inspection, but if it were to get inspected it will fail the visual inspection.
OP no worries drive down to chp have them sign it off and get it stamped. they wont know your exhaust is aftermarket, just say you swapped mufflers only, due to putting a hole in the original...
Last edited by LightsOut; 01-13-2010 at 04:37 PM.
#13
01-13-2010, 04:24 PM
Going to the ref station would be unnecessary as the documentation from the dealer would suffice as enough evidence that the exhaust is perfectly legal. The state ref is there to inspect whether an aftermarket exhaust is in compliance with emissions and such. Documentation from the dealer says just that.
#14
01-13-2010, 04:27 PM
the ticket says "27151(2) VC -Modified Exhaust"
Even when he pulled me over, he mentioned nothing of the sound, he just kept saying that its aftermarket and its illegal and all that BS
so it's just a visual huh? do you think nismo would pass visual, i mean it looks EXACTLY like OEM
Even when he pulled me over, he mentioned nothing of the sound, he just kept saying that its aftermarket and its illegal and all that BS
so it's just a visual huh? do you think nismo would pass visual, i mean it looks EXACTLY like OEM
#15
01-13-2010, 04:34 PM
your wrong buddy! any modification done to vehicle is illegal in Cali. Yes we all do it, but its illegal. Cops dont bust everyone cause then they'll have to pull every car over.
You can still get a fix a ticket for having a carb sticker on your intake. Its a fix a ticket that must be corrected.
If your upgrading oem part that the car comes with then cops wouldn't tell the difference. (thats a loophole)
In his case G35 didn't come with a Nismo exhaust.
You can still get a fix a ticket for having a carb sticker on your intake. Its a fix a ticket that must be corrected.
If your upgrading oem part that the car comes with then cops wouldn't tell the difference. (thats a loophole)
In his case G35 didn't come with a Nismo exhaust.
Or why there are exhaust systems that state "50 state legal" and if you get pulled over for it, an officer will ask you if you have documentation stating that the exhaust system is legal and complies with CA emissions?
In that case, putting on different wheels on a car is illegal, and is a modification according to your statement, and they most certainly are not.
Like you said, I can get a ticket for an intake with carb number and I have. The cop was stupid, even said my engine was illegal, I asked why and they didn't know why it just "looked" illegal..it's because I had a 350z cover on my engine that was painted. Cops will through around the idea of something being illegal if they are unfamiliar with it.
My point is, how is modifying a vehicle illegal...especially when I have had cops tell me directly, if you're going to modify your car, that's fine, just do so by the vehicle code.
Another example, changing the suspension by installing coilovers or springs is illegal according to your statement, however, they are perfectly legal as long as the lowest part of the body (maybe chassis? forgot which one, but it probably is the body since that is where they measured for me) is at least 4" above the ground and the center of the headlights must be I believe 22" above the ground. Lowering the vehicle is legal, it's the drop height that determines at which point it becomes illegal.