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Old 06-18-2007, 11:04 AM
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Originally Posted by Marshall2K
Can more than one car be done with software?
Interesting question.

My guess is that it will be tied to a specific ECU ID.
 
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Old 06-18-2007, 05:45 PM
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Cipher = not tied to specific car
Osiris = tied to specific car.
 
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Originally Posted by _jb
Interesting question.

My guess is that it will be tied to a specific ECU ID.
The related posts on MY350Z include UpRev directly answering questions.

UpRev says that second car could be done but there would be some additional charge - not yet established.

2004.5+'s could have up to 5 maps switchable via the cruise control without losing cruise control. Maps are designed for your level of mods - based upon their experience in dyno tuning what's sounding like a fairly good number of 350Z owners who are positively chiming-in - hopefully factual.

Updates are free if your mods significantly change...at this point in time at least.

A tuner version (map editing tool and documentation) enabling you to self-adjust maps is being considered. The Cipher component of this product release allows you to monitor everything, and adjust some things now.

Surprised that the G35 drivers here aren't more interested!!!

This is sounding better every day..for those of us that are NA and not hard-core enough (laziness like me ) to swap ECU and dyno-tune.
 
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Old 06-20-2007, 03:00 PM
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At $700 is it still too expensive.
When you get a reflash, you can send TS your A/F maps and they can use that to give you a more accurate reflash. Still they are doing the work for you.

The only way I could see this breaking into the market, would be to split the costs up for multiple vehicles. (edit: the key is in the cable not software)
$700 = UpRev Flash tool
$695 = Techno Square reflash (coupe)
$695 = Altered Atmosphere reflash (coupe)

$700 = UTEC piggy back module
 

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Old 06-20-2007, 03:15 PM
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I think this will be big!

You might save $5 with the other two companies, but you have to take your ECU out and mail it to them! That's the deal breaker.

I think this will become the predominant method of flashing ECUs from predetermined data. It won't be as good as a real-time tune on a dyno, but it will be the next best thing!
 
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Old 06-20-2007, 03:26 PM
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My reasoning was, if you provide them (TS) with a dyno A/F they could adjust your flash accordingly.

John, If you email them, they said they will work out a deal for cipher owners. But the key is in the new cable, not the software.

They also said that you can tune up to (2) two VQ35DE engines with it. Also, you can datalog with cipher and email the information to them and they can send you an optimized map which you can reflash onto your ecu via the obdII port.

I like the ability to switch between maps with the cruise control, and still keep the cruise control ability.

Now, depending on what kind of discount you can get with an existing cipher tool, I might be willing to go half on the purchase since the license is for two vehicles. lol
 

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Your forgetting the OBDII diagnostics that comes with it.
 
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Your forgetting the OBDII diagnostics that comes with it.
While I agree that $700 is still not cheap, Cipher looks very good and it's included. Hell, an OBD-II scanner alone costs about $200 bucks and that doesn't let you get at the CAN settings or many of the performance parameters specific to the VQ. Cipher is like a portable Nissan Consult-II.

It's a good question though about being able to send dyno results to UpRev. I bet that they would do same since you get a map or multiple maps for your specific configuration. Let's see if they will answer that question...
 
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Old 06-20-2007, 08:01 PM
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The new Osiris program from UpRev sounds like a definite winner. There is plenty of activity over on our sister board. I guess that people here, on 'Driver, are as interested as the My350Z members. The said just popped up to the top of my want list.
 
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can i take this to a tuner and get a custom map or can the company osiris only provide me with another map and i can just switch them? Basically what im asking is can i edit my maps.
 
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Originally Posted by cc1012
can i take this to a tuner and get a custom map or can the company osiris only provide me with another map and i can just switch them? Basically what im asking is can i edit my maps.
At this point, from what I can tell, the answer is no.
 
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cc1012, my understanding is that, at this time, end-user can not edit maps, but this will hopefully change soon.

LMG_35C, where are you in NJ? UpRev said that they would provide free maps unless overwhelmed by requests. At this time I see no contest with other reflash types or any EMU on the market for NA G’s.
 
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Old 06-21-2007, 12:43 PM
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subscribing - anyone got one? feedback?
subscribed as well. I wonder if I bought this, Andy could use this to tune his car as well?
 
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Old 06-22-2007, 12:52 AM
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Old 06-22-2007, 01:12 AM
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subscribed as well. I wonder if I bought this, Andy could use this to tune his car as well?
Hmmm . . . Interesting, but our integrity would stop us from doing as such.
 


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