DIY: Clutch Fix#1 - pedal travel

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Old 10-12-2008, 02:30 PM
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DIY: Clutch Fix#1 - pedal travel

OK guys.....
After playing with spacers & double sided tape to minimize clutch pedal travel. (as per the other fix thread)
I came up with a more mechanically sound fix, that gives you adjustment capabilities.

NOTE: This is specific to the 2nd Gen 6MT, our pedal setup is a little different than 1st Gen.

First off after driving with & loving the R&D spacers for a week;
I took them out for the more permanent fix.
With them out, I went for a short drive...... OMG it was AWFUL!!!!!
I couldn't wait to get the fix done.

Most of the explanation is right on the pics....
But basically I replaced the spacers with threaded stem guides from Home depot.
They're made for furniture/table legs for leveling them.

In addition to being much more mechanically sound,
the BIG benefit to these is adjustment capabilities.
You can get the pedal position EXACTLY where you want it.

Initially I was going to tap a thread into the back plate, but decided it was much easier to just stack a couple of 1/4" fender washers as spacers.
Fender washers are available in various gauges (thickness) but are nominally about .05"

On my car I tried two, but then took one out to get a tad more travel.
With this set up I now LOVE the clutch in my G.
This setup gave me that added adjustment that spacers & D.sided tape couldn't provide.
The clutch is now consistent, time after time after time.

...probably the most tricky part of this mod is drilling the hole in the back plate.
It's hard to get the drill @ 90° to surface, so it is want to walk away.
It is imperative to get a GOOD center punch mark and then start with a small bit.
(the smaller the drill the better as well)

Good luck & enjoy....
This is easily the best mod I've done to the car!!!!

(sorry for the quality of some of these pics, I only had my cell cam at the time)

The parts....


OEM Before.....



Mark the drill hole.....


New stops installed, showing travel....



Bottom of travel showing stops mated to pedal....
 

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Old 10-12-2008, 02:38 PM
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Wow, thankyou, that looks really nicely done, looks like OEM does not look too modified, judging by your comments it made a huge difference so i might try it. thanks again for taking the time to this and taking pics ill try next weekend...
 
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Old 10-14-2008, 11:02 AM
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So this has nothing to do with clutch engagement. It just keeps the clutch pedal from pushing all the way down?
 
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Old 10-14-2008, 11:29 AM
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yes, but since there is a huge difference in travel the engagement is much easier to operate.
 
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Old 10-14-2008, 08:25 PM
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Originally Posted by jerminator
So this has nothing to do with clutch engagement. It just keeps the clutch pedal from pushing all the way down?
correct, it gets rid of the bottom travel past where the clutch engages.
The pedal moves down just enough to completely disengage. (adjustable to suit your preference)
 
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Old 11-12-2008, 03:16 AM
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AMAZING DIY.... SOOOOO EASY AND AWESOME!!! Just did it, can't wait to drive around more tomorrow! Thanks for DIY and parts
 
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Old 11-16-2008, 01:05 PM
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Awesome how-2!

How much offset does this mod make in the pedal travel--1/2"? Also, I could not find the small diameter threaded glides--can I just use a big one for the sensor?
 
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Old 11-16-2008, 01:35 PM
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AMAZING DIY.... SOOOOO EASY AND AWESOME!!! Just did it, can't wait to drive around more tomorrow! Thanks for DIY and parts
Sor far so good, just a really short travel. Thanks!!!
 
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Originally Posted by mishmosh
Awesome how-2!

How much offset does this mod make in the pedal travel--1/2"? Also, I could not find the small diameter threaded glides--can I just use a big one for the sensor?
It should be OK.
 
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Old 11-17-2008, 08:02 PM
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InTgr8r,
Hey, just did the mod in a few minutes. Hardest part was tightening the nut in back. It took a little bit of driving to get used to the new clutch take up but it is so much more predictable now! Thank you for doing the research into this and for the great how2 and pics!
 
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Old 11-17-2008, 08:33 PM
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Originally Posted by mishmosh
InTgr8r,
Hey, just did the mod in a few minutes. Hardest part was tightening the nut in back. It took a little bit of driving to get used to the new clutch take up but it is so much more predictable now! Thank you for doing the research into this and for the great how2 and pics!
No problem....

After you get used to it,
it feels really strange if you ever get the change to drive another G35 MT w/o it.
When I took out the test spacers, I felt like a complete MT noob.
 
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Old 11-20-2008, 06:26 PM
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wow..... Before this fix i felt like the clutch had as much travel as my Grampa's old ford f-150 farm truck.
 
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Old 11-26-2008, 07:28 PM
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Got to definately try this, can't stand how the clutch pedal feels.
 

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Old 11-27-2008, 06:47 PM
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I just did this a few days ago with nickles not the more permanent fasteners and nuts.
Its not a huge improvement as some make it out to be. But is an improvement over the stock clutch travel distance.

This doesnt really change what I dont like about the stock clutch. Out clutch is just seems to be overly sensitive.
I just drove a friends BMW 335 around all day yesterday. Aside from it being an incredible car(WAY better that the G I believe); the clutch is just so much more "forgiving". No wild jerks when your trying to race through the gears.
 
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Old 11-27-2008, 08:07 PM
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well then you need moe practice cause i race through the gears a lot and have NO "wild jerks"...
 

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