Best V36 power mod for the $$ ??

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Old Sep 17, 2009 | 10:50 PM
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Again, I don't have concrete proof of this yet, but 22 hp to the wheels ain't bad for $300-$400, IMO. ($13-$18 per WHP)
One of these days, someone will giterdun.

22hp sounds good, but the real deal will show on the graph,
when we can see the area between the curves.

...like Steve, it's the A/F ratios that I really want to see
 
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Old Sep 17, 2009 | 11:02 PM
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Originally Posted by InTgr8r
One of these days, someone will giterdun.

22hp sounds good, but the real deal will show on the graph,
when we can see the area between the curves.

...like Steve, it's the A/F ratios that I really want to see
Can't agree more! I really do hope those numbers are true though that would be quite the good boost to power.
 
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Old Sep 18, 2009 | 01:42 AM
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I would take that 22HP claim with a large grain of salt.
 
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Old Sep 18, 2009 | 01:56 AM
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Originally Posted by Austin713
you could change out the rear gear to a higher ratio, but i havent heard of any sedan members doing that.
Its quite common, the sedan guys trade with the guys making over 500whp. Because the 500whp guys want to reduce the wheel spin they get. The sedan guys get more off the line by switching from the stock 3.3 rear to the coupes 3.5rear diff. Or you could buy an after market 3.9gear set but the trade with big horse power guys is the best option IMO.
 
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Old Sep 18, 2009 | 08:21 AM
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I would take that 22HP claim with a large grain of salt.
...a BIG one.

 
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Old Sep 18, 2009 | 10:49 AM
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Originally Posted by AesonVirus
Yeah, that's it. You have a few options with it, but I'm running the premium tune with a 2 degree advance on the timing. You can also tweak your shift points and top speed. I haven't gotten the car onto a dyno yet, but the butt noticed more change than my exhaust or intakes ever provided.
I hope to have some dyno results soon though.

BD's explanation of the Premium tune...
*Premium: This engine tune is recommended for use with 91 or 93 octane gasoline. This tune can be used for everyday driving, towing and racing. Dynamometer testing results have shown up to 22 horsepower and 24 ft.-lbs torque increase, on the premium tune, to the rear wheels.

Again, I don't have concrete proof of this yet, but 22 hp to the wheels ain't bad for $300-$400, IMO. ($13-$18 per WHP)

Where do you adjust the shift points?? i cant find that.
 
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Old Sep 18, 2009 | 11:53 AM
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Originally Posted by InTgr8r
...a BIG one.

thats a huge rock son
 
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Old Sep 18, 2009 | 11:56 AM
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Best bang for the buck on any car is nitrous.
 
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Old Sep 18, 2009 | 11:57 AM
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22 hp from the Bully Dog is a bunch of BS!
 
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Old Sep 18, 2009 | 01:26 PM
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Originally Posted by InTgr8r
...a BIG one.

Werd
 
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Old Sep 18, 2009 | 01:50 PM
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I'd bet my left ******** the BD isn't giving 22hp. Maybe a 22hp gain at certain points through the powerband, but not peak.

So far, the only best bang for the buck item I've seen a dyno for is the invidia full catback. Saw someone do a dyno before and after and picked up 15 whp peak with the invidia. For 900 bucks or so that's a pretty sad bang for the buck, but not bad for gains from an exhaust.
 
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Old Sep 20, 2009 | 05:03 PM
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Ummm Isn't TT the best bang for the buck? For 10 K you can get to like 500+hp. so thats like 200 Hp for 10k umm That's 50 bucks per Hp. I know TT ain't Technically a bolt on lol.
You only go TT if you take your car to the track otherwise you're wasting your time and money. Go Centrifugal Supercharger, it's the best performance you can get for the streets. No matter what people tell you, if you put two identical cars next to each other, one with a TT and one with a Centrifugal Supercharger, the one with the turbo working off of the fan belt will take off like there is no tomorrow. Guaranteed.

Either way our engines our pretty much peaked. There's not a whole lot of HP you can squeeze out of a reflash and tune with just bolt on's....have to go forced induction or internals to really show some extra gain. That's my thought and opinion though. I've also heard the new Injen Cold Air Intakes (one's that sit infront of the radiator) are giving really good gains, like 18 HP to the wheels which isn't bad. Buttttttttttttttttttt, the fact that the intakes are exposed to so much air and possibly water (not to mention it's infront of the radiator!!) could mess with the ATF ratio. Or possible cause cooling issues because you're restricting so 2-3 inchs of air NOT going into the radiator. 2-3 inchs referring to the whole intake in front of it, from when it loops around to the clips behind the grill. (I miss the old drop down cold air intakes. those are cooler to me).
 
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Old Sep 20, 2009 | 06:53 PM
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Originally Posted by AesonVirus
Yeah, that's it. You have a few options with it, but I'm running the premium tune with a 2 degree advance on the timing. You can also tweak your shift points and top speed. I haven't gotten the car onto a dyno yet, but the butt noticed more change than my exhaust or intakes ever provided.
I hope to have some dyno results soon though.

BD's explanation of the Premium tune...
*Premium: This engine tune is recommended for use with 91 or 93 octane gasoline. This tune can be used for everyday driving, towing and racing. Dynamometer testing results have shown up to 22 horsepower and 24 ft.-lbs torque increase, on the premium tune, to the rear wheels.

Again, I don't have concrete proof of this yet, but 22 hp to the wheels ain't bad for $300-$400, IMO. ($13-$18 per WHP)
which version did u download?? V 1.2.3c?? im hella confused on the bully dog and how u put the maps and stuff. im debating between this and cobb because a local tuner is taking forever for my osiris
 
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Old Sep 22, 2009 | 10:33 AM
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which version did u download?? V 1.2.3c?? im hella confused on the bully dog and how u put the maps and stuff. im debating between this and cobb because a local tuner is taking forever for my osiris
Go with Cobb for three reasons. The first being they actually create a specific tune for the vehicle, not just increase timing...AND they dyno and give you a realistic expectation on the power.

second being if you get tired of the base maps, you can get street tuner and create your own.

Third being price. It's not much more than the BD if you find the right shop. I bought my last AccessPort locally for 500 bucks.
 
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Old Sep 22, 2009 | 01:52 PM
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I've also heard the new Injen Cold Air Intakes (one's that sit infront of the radiator) are giving really good gains, like 18 HP to the wheels which isn't bad. Buttttttttttttttttttt, the fact that the intakes are exposed to so much air and possibly water (not to mention it's infront of the radiator!!) could mess with the ATF ratio. Or possible cause cooling issues because you're restricting so 2-3 inchs of air NOT going into the radiator. 2-3 inchs referring to the whole intake in front of it, from when it loops around to the clips behind the grill. (I miss the old drop down cold air intakes. those are cooler to me).
Is that a negative or are the cold air intakes in front of the radiator actually bringing in some air flow of their own to the area.
 
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