Here's a caveat about the LI. The one tested by the Guys of Lidar was a super prototype, and the production LI is supposedly not as effective as the super prototype. That being said, even the production LI, according to many enthusiasts at radardetector.net, is reputedly one of the better jammers in the market. However, it is made in Croatia, and the customer service hasn't always been the best, allegedly.

Products like LI and LLP (supposedly two of the better jammers in the market) are all made overseas. While the ZR3 and ZR4 might not be as effective, they are made by Escort. At least you know where to find them if you need to sue them! Of course, one would hope that such a course of action is never going to be necessary.

 

I don't know what you base the statement that the "ZR3's were terrible" on. I have the ZR3 integrated to my 8500 X50 for over 3 years now, and it has saved me MANY times both in the front and rear. I'm not saying it's the best on the market (maybe it is, but I don't know), but it definitely does work.

 

The ZR3 can be an effective jammer depending on what Lidar gun is used in the area. For example, most Houston LEO's use PL3, and the ZR3 supposedly does a great job at giving a driver precious seconds to slow down. I don't think a jammer necessarily needs to be JTG to be an effective jammer. As long as it warns the driver and provides the driver with sufficient time before PT to slow down. If you can get 4-5 seconds before PT, that should be more than enough time to slow down to the PSL.

 

I'm basing this on the testing results posted on multiple review sites. As Armanius posted it is very effective on the PL3, but not very effective at all on several other units. The ZR4's look very promising.

 

so do laser jammers have to be integrated along with the radar detector? I always thought the jammers were placed somewhere hidden like behind the

front bumper. but then I don't know how it would warn you........

 

They dont have to be integrated. My M25 has a built in speaker and led that I installed on my dash. It simply turns red if it detects laser and I get a loud alert as well. The advantage of using the escort one is that when it is integrated, your radar detector can trigger the shifter incase the shifter doesn't sense the laser. Also you would want the jammer heads to have a clear line of sight ahead, so if its behind something it would slightly decrease the jam.

 

This is a "copy and paste" from the SRT4 forum. I used to own a 432whp510WTq SRT4. Also keep in mind, this was 3-4 years ago before the 9500 was even thought of, and the ZR3 was fairly new.

X50 had my back from Northern Tenn. to Central FL. GA/I-75 is the speed trap capital of the U.S.

I dropped no lower than 100mph. I averaged either 76 or 86mph while stopping 5 times for gas ( yes, an SRT4 burns a **** load while acting like a cruise missle ). Everytime I stopped for gas, I pee'd, my dog pee'd, my wife pee'd, and my daughter pee'd.

The one time I thought I was nailed, the lazer jammer saved my nuts.

X50 with the lazer jammer on the interstate is damn near bullet proof.

I got 34mpg the first tank going to Tenn. I was so confident about the detector, I made it home in 8 hours and 50 minutes ( door step to door step ), and the first couple hours of the trip isn't even interstate driving.

This run saw speeds of 145mph, and mostly crusing speeds of 110-120mph.
I saw the lazer cop through the passenger window as I passed at 105mph without warning. He shot me in the *** with the lazer and pulled out, only to find, his lazer didn't pick-up a speed. He put the light on me, drove by really slow, then took off like a bat. 2 exits later, I found him on the side of the road with a Acura MDX pulled over.

I've only been popped by lazer once in FL, and twice during the return run in GA. 3 times total in 2-3 years. Without a jammer, the lazer is your daddy either way.... As far as radar, the X50 is king.

My X50 was is the ONLY thing I saved from the SRT4 for the G35. I sold the ZR3 for like $150 ( funny enough, $50 more than I paid for it ) when I put my SRT4 back to stock to trade it in on the G35.

The new 9500 has that niffty GPS thing that stops falses on your normal routes, but its detection is actully the same as the old 8500. No matter who's dectector your running, your going to get popped if you don't have a lazer jammer ( and the cop is using a lazer odvously ).

I owned the SRT4 for 4-5 years. Within the first 10 months of owning it, it ran 12.0@112mph. It was raced almost its entire life ( and a great race car it was ) and the entire time I owned it ( short of 2-3months ) it had the X50 8500 and ZR3 jammer. I never got a ticket in it. I was 22 years old when I bought, and it was primarily my street race car and my wifes daily driver ( she was 18 ). We never got any tickets in it ( other than a "fix it ticket" for the rear tag light being out b/c the rear lazer jammer covered it up, haha ).

The G35 has two nice little spots for a lazer jammer, nice and low ( which is where you want your lazer jammers in the front ), but I'm a more relaxed driver now, and I didn't buy the G for racing, or I wouldn't have gotten rid of my low 11 sec stock motored SRT4....

And to add a bit more about the time it takes to make the trip from my house to Tenn, we did the trip a few weeks ago in the mini-van and it took us 12hours 45minutes there. And 12hours 15 minutes back. The SRT4 run did it in 8 hours and 50 minutes. The Van stopped twice for gas. The SRT4 stopped 5 times !!!

 

"The new 9500 has that niffty GPS thing that stops falses on your normal routes, but its detection is actully the same as the old 8500. No matter who's dectector your running, your going to get popped if you don't have a lazer jammer ( and the cop is using a lazer odvously )."

Actually the 9500i is an entirely new platform that has nothing in common with to the old 8500. The older X50 was better than the new X50. The new X50 now competes middle of the pack.