my post was not in reference to your comment, it was the guy before me that said, that he read the reviews and he still thought grounding kits were rubbish. His input was based on nothing.

 

^ this is what I was talking about
I posted a response to this comment, and the next morning, it was gone.

 

I had heard somewhere along the way that these were supposed to add hp. which I did not believe. I guess I was mistaken. But still smoother shifts etc.? I would have to try it myself... but won't so I'll just keep ney saying lol

 

i had a ground kit on my prelude and it didnt make it faster, but it did run smoother... i guess if you have money to spend and want the engine bay to look "cooler" then try it..

quoted from Stillen


"You are losing horsepower and torque without STILLEN's new Grounding Kits. Today's engine management systems utilize hundreds of sensors and in some cases over 12 onboard computers that constantly monitor all parameters of the engine and powertrain.

Installing STILLEN's Grounding Kit ensures that sensors and computers are not affected by power surges that can drain performance. This ensures that all wire diameters are optimal for amperage and current travel distance. "

 

Fair enough, thx

 

I got the Stillen Grouding Kit Installed and Honestly im not really sure if it did make a difference? You know your car, when i took it for a drive it actually felt a bit smoother but yet again it could of just been my imagination???!!

Yeah i know this doesnt help hahaha

 

Until this thread, I've never even heard of "grounding kits" as an aftermarket performance mod.

But, I'm new the the import world. Why would this make a difference? And if it does, why wouldn't all cars be doing things like this?

 

Wherever you heard it from, it was wrong. As mentioned, it doesn't add HP. All it is that you are doing is adding wires, to create a better flow of current. Think of a closed room with a fan inside that is pushing, say feathers, out the room from a door that is 4' x 4'. Now lets you add just one more 4' x 4' door. It allows more feathers to escape the room at a quicker rate, because efficiency has increased. In the same sense, a grounding kit allows for a more efficient flow of current.

Load of crap. As mentioned, you can't lose anything, only gain. The only way you can lose or see a negative impact is if the bolt that the ground is located on is not securely tightened. Also, if there is not direct metal to metal contact, such as metal to paint that is on metal, it will minimize the purpose. Wires aren't measured in diameter either. Although they go by different gauges, which is what Stillen refers to as the diameter of the wire it seems, that doesn't mean anything. Here is a link that shows pictures of several different 1/0 wires.

http://www.caraudiojunkyard.com/foru...ands-wire.html

As you can see, some have thicker jackets, some have more strands, yet they are all sold as 1/0 wire. The more strands, the better, simply put. Stillen's claim's just trick the customer, which is a marketing strategy to make it seem like their products are better than others. I don't have anything against Stillen, but I don't see why they mislead their customers/potential customers.

 

Better, higher quality.... sure.

But, does it make a difference?

Monster cable makes very high quality video cables for HDTVs.

And the difference in picture quality between the crappiest cables and the absolute best is zero. (it's digital.... one's and zeros, if you get a signal at all, the picture is perfect).

Buying monster cables for HDTV picture is pointless.

 

This isn't correct - remember, we're talking about GROUND wires here, not hot wires. The ground wires are not carrying current.

 

correct, they carry signal

 

Just wondering how it's not a carrying current. If there is no current, there is no electricity. Current is needed for a signal to be carried, it all part of Ohm's law.

Here's a few pieces of info from Wikipedia:

Ground is the reference point in an electrical circuit from which other voltages are measured, a common return path for electric current

In electronic circuit theory, a 'ground' is usually idealized as an infinite source or sink for charge, which can absorb an unlimited amount of current without changing its potential.

Ohm's law applies to electrical circuits; it states that the current passing through a conductor between two points is directly proportional to the potential difference (i.e. voltage drop or voltage) across the two points, and inversely proportional to the resistance between them

All info was from:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ground
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ohms_law
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electric_current

Also, check the last link under Conventional Current. It goes into more detail.

 

A tad bit more info from: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HVDC

High voltage is used for transmission to reduce the energy lost in the resistance of the wires. For a given quantity of power transmitted, higher voltage reduces the transmission power loss. Power in a circuit is proportional to the current, but the power lost as heat in the wires is proportional to the square of the current. However, power is also proportional to voltage, so for a given power level, higher voltage can be traded off for lower current. Thus, the higher the voltage, the lower the power loss. Power loss can also be reduced by reducing resistance, commonly achieved by increasing the diameter of the conductor; but larger conductors are heavier and more expensive.

 

We understand all you are saying. Most people assume that the grounding kits cycle POWER throught them.

 

By power, are you referring to horsepower? In that case I'd agree with your statement.