Wheels & Tires Grabbing the road and stopping.

Quick Review -- Toyo Proxes T1R

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Rate Thread
 
Old Dec 19, 2006 | 12:16 PM
  #1  
maxximase's Avatar
Thread Starter
|
Registered User
Joined: Jul 2006
Posts: 54
Likes: 1
From: Bay Area, CA
Quick Review -- Toyo Proxes T1R

Just installed a set on my OEM 19" rims -- maintained stock sizes of 225/40 and 245/40 front and rear.

Of note, the fronts have even less rim protection than the OEM Bridgestones had. There is absolutely no margin of error for any contact with curbs -- parallel parkers beware.

First thing I noticed was how much nicer these ride than the Bridgestones. Major improvement in ride quality. They are both quieter and softer riding -- something I was after as this car is a daily driver, not a track car. I have read complaints that the sidewalls are too soft on these -- and while there is a noticeable difference compared to the Bridgestones, it's hardly enough to make me concerned. My favorite morning highway on ramp is just as much fun as always. My guess is that hard track driving would probably suffer, but these sure seem competent enough for daily driving.

The only complaint so far is that these tires follow the micro-gooves in the cement highways more than I'd like -- of course, not an issue on pavement. Certainly not a deal breaker.

Has not rained yet, but is supposed to later in the week. I'll post a reply with an opinion about rain driving later.
 
Reply
Old Dec 22, 2006 | 07:49 AM
  #2  
jjellyneck's Avatar
Registered User
Joined: Jul 2002
Posts: 369
Likes: 1
From: Minneapolis
Sounds good! How's the noise factor?
 
Reply
Old Dec 22, 2006 | 01:29 PM
  #3  
LIUser's Avatar
Registered User
iTrader: (3)
Joined: Aug 2005
Posts: 1,154
Likes: 1
awesome, im probably going to put these on when i...

a: get new rims (>_<)x
or
b: get new tires =(
 
Reply
Old Dec 22, 2006 | 01:44 PM
  #4  
zackt69's Avatar
rarejdm.com
iTrader: (43)
Joined: Sep 2005
Posts: 2,140
Likes: 36
From: Pasadena, Ca
The rear breaks loose pretty easy in the rain with the T1R's... I have 10.5 rears and they still spin with no problem if I get on it when it's wet. Great tires though...
 
Reply
Old Dec 22, 2006 | 02:21 PM
  #5  
maxximase's Avatar
Thread Starter
|
Registered User
Joined: Jul 2006
Posts: 54
Likes: 1
From: Bay Area, CA
Originally Posted by zackt69
The rear breaks loose pretty easy in the rain with the T1R's
Sure, but so would any other tire. You can control that with your right foot. What's important is hydroplane resistance. I drove in light rain yesterday for the first time -- not really enough to assess hydroplaning though.

To the other poster who asked about noise -- I find these substantially quieter than the OEM Bridgestones. And they have a superior ride.

Ultimate dry grip seems similar to the Bridgestones, though the softer sidewalls make the car feel more loose at turn in. Perfectly fine for a daily driver.

Hopefully, they last longer than 18k miles, which was about it for the Bridgestones.
 
Reply
Old Dec 23, 2006 | 02:39 AM
  #6  
sngpimpin's Avatar
Registered User
Joined: Aug 2005
Posts: 1,020
Likes: 0
nice! im prob going with these tires or perhaps some michilens pilot sport a/s
 
Reply
Old Dec 23, 2006 | 06:37 AM
  #7  
abcdang's Avatar
Registered User
iTrader: (1)
Joined: Nov 2005
Posts: 223
Likes: 0
From: SF,CA
where did you pick these up in the bayarea?
 
Reply
Old Dec 23, 2006 | 09:01 AM
  #8  
StoreKeeper's Avatar
Registered User
Joined: May 2006
Posts: 161
Likes: 0
From: Pacific Beach,Ca
Question

Originally Posted by maxximase
Just installed a set on my OEM 19" rims -- maintained stock sizes of 225/40 and 245/40 front and rear.

Of note, the fronts have even less rim protection than the OEM Bridgestones had. There is absolutely no margin of error for any contact with curbs -- parallel parkers beware.

First thing I noticed was how much nicer these ride than the Bridgestones. Major improvement in ride quality. They are both quieter and softer riding -- something I was after as this car is a daily driver, not a track car. I have read complaints that the sidewalls are too soft on these -- and while there is a noticeable difference compared to the Bridgestones, it's hardly enough to make me concerned. My favorite morning highway on ramp is just as much fun as always. My guess is that hard track driving would probably suffer, but these sure seem competent enough for daily driving.

The only complaint so far is that these tires follow the micro-gooves in the cement highways more than I'd like -- of course, not an issue on pavement. Certainly not a deal breaker.

Has not rained yet, but is supposed to later in the week. I'll post a reply with an opinion about rain driving later.
Where can I find these tires?

Thanks in advance

Rx Bruce/StoreKeeper
 
Reply
Old Dec 23, 2006 | 11:33 AM
  #9  
vqman's Avatar
Registered User
Joined: Dec 2006
Posts: 118
Likes: 0
From: Fishers, IN
I have had my T1-R's in the rain already (just bought my car on Tuesday and they had T1-R's on it)...

it was confidence inspiring compared to the Mich 4 seasons tire (not a pilot) that I had on my 740...
 
Reply
Old Dec 23, 2006 | 03:34 PM
  #10  
maxximase's Avatar
Thread Starter
|
Registered User
Joined: Jul 2006
Posts: 54
Likes: 1
From: Bay Area, CA
I got them at tiredeals4less.com. They were the cheapest by far.
 
Reply
Old Jan 1, 2007 | 05:19 PM
  #11  
Triple8Sol's Avatar
Registered User
iTrader: (151)
Joined: Aug 2003
Posts: 7,288
Likes: 0
From: Seattle, WA
Originally Posted by maxximase
Sure, but so would any other tire. You can control that with your right foot. What's important is hydroplane resistance. I drove in light rain yesterday for the first time -- not really enough to assess hydroplaning though.

To the other poster who asked about noise -- I find these substantially quieter than the OEM Bridgestones. And they have a superior ride.

Ultimate dry grip seems similar to the Bridgestones, though the softer sidewalls make the car feel more loose at turn in. Perfectly fine for a daily driver.

Hopefully, they last longer than 18k miles, which was about it for the Bridgestones.
Let me tell you, the T1R has great hydroplane resistance. I've had several of the top high-perf tires, and it rains here and there in Seattle. Better than Toyo T1-S, BFG KDW2, Bridgestone RE050A, Bridgestone S-03, Nitto 555, Avon M550. Only better tire I've found in rain is the Dunlop SP9000

OT but, are you a former Max owner too?
 
Reply
Old Jan 2, 2007 | 06:20 PM
  #12  
maxximase's Avatar
Thread Starter
|
Registered User
Joined: Jul 2006
Posts: 54
Likes: 1
From: Bay Area, CA
Originally Posted by Triple8Sol
OT but, are you a former Max owner too?
Yup -- had 3 of 'em -- a 96 SE 5sp, 00 SE 6sp and 04 SE 6sp. Loved each one, but decided I could handle 2 fewer doors for awhile. Still wanted the back seat for the kids, though.
 
Reply
Old Jan 2, 2007 | 06:46 PM
  #13  
cloud's Avatar
Registered User
iTrader: (3)
Joined: May 2005
Posts: 1,267
Likes: 0
From: Rowland heights, CA
did the sidewall feel mushy?
 
Reply
Old Jan 3, 2007 | 10:49 AM
  #14  
maxximase's Avatar
Thread Starter
|
Registered User
Joined: Jul 2006
Posts: 54
Likes: 1
From: Bay Area, CA
Originally Posted by cloud
did the sidewall feel mushy?
Funny, doesn't anybody bother to read?
Originally Posted by Me, in the first post in this thread
I have read complaints that the sidewalls are too soft on these -- and while there is a noticeable difference compared to the Bridgestones, it's hardly enough to make me concerned. My favorite morning highway on ramp is just as much fun as always. My guess is that hard track driving would probably suffer, but these sure seem competent enough for daily driving.
 
Reply
Old Jan 3, 2007 | 02:49 PM
  #15  
jjellyneck's Avatar
Registered User
Joined: Jul 2002
Posts: 369
Likes: 1
From: Minneapolis
But are they really mushy like cherry Jello?
Really--thanks for the review because the Toyo has been high on my list of tires to try for my next set. For me it's Toyo vs. Falken 452.
 
Reply


You have already rated this thread Rating: Thread Rating: 0 votes,  average.


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 03:59 AM.