Wheels similar to VSXX
#16
I would argue that the number of people rolling on axis/tsw etc is higher than the number of volk/work owners, remember that g35driver is but a small part of the g35 ownership community, and the distribution outlet of companies such as axis and tsw are much larger than volk/work. The thing is that the people who do own those types of wheels don't care about brand or quality and are more concerned with looks and price. Thus the deceptively "played out" amount of volk/work owners on this website
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#19
Originally Posted by Adon
well what do you guys consider cheap wheels ? what are cheap wheels according to the all mighty standard ? there's like this huge bandwagon everyone is riding that if you don't have Volks or Works or whatever else that you got yourself a cheap set of wheels....scares the **** outta everyone else on the forum when they wanna buy their wheels... so what is cheap, below $2000 ?? below $1000 ??
RPM 505's are pretty sweet looking and with tires will put you right past $2000 brand new, the Axis Pentas are $2500 with tires....... I must be missing the point here, but I don't think those prices equate to "CHEAP WHEELS"
I think what most of you guys do is simply compare the quality of the wheel to the usual suspects like Volk or Work and obviously none of these other manufacturers have the quality of Volk/Work, so you guys automatically label them "CHEAP". Do you guys really think that Volk wheels that cost $3000 here in the US cost that same amount over in Japan ? over there they probably cost the same price as a set of RPM wheels here...
Seriously you guys come off like big ballers when you call a $2500 set of wheels "CHEAP".... if you were ballers though, wouldn't you be driving $100k + cars where wheels must be at least 5k to be worthy enough to be on the ride.
RPM 505's are pretty sweet looking and with tires will put you right past $2000 brand new, the Axis Pentas are $2500 with tires....... I must be missing the point here, but I don't think those prices equate to "CHEAP WHEELS"
I think what most of you guys do is simply compare the quality of the wheel to the usual suspects like Volk or Work and obviously none of these other manufacturers have the quality of Volk/Work, so you guys automatically label them "CHEAP". Do you guys really think that Volk wheels that cost $3000 here in the US cost that same amount over in Japan ? over there they probably cost the same price as a set of RPM wheels here...
Seriously you guys come off like big ballers when you call a $2500 set of wheels "CHEAP".... if you were ballers though, wouldn't you be driving $100k + cars where wheels must be at least 5k to be worthy enough to be on the ride.
I used to think the same with regards to Volk/Work > anything else; but I am starting to see that if the rims look nice to you that is all that matters.
#20
btw on another note... oem 19's are RAY'S forged. rays= volk
whenever i refer to cheap, i'd put in consideration the time and money involved in the process of creating the wheel. Look on any work or Volk rim, it meets safety standards set in japan (it reads JIL on the rim). Not only is the rim test for safety, nissan and other companies invest millions of dollars into throwing these rims on their cars...im just saying that i didn't throw money into volks just to be baller, I wanted something that was reliable and something i could trust.
as you can see some other wheels we write off as "cheap" do not go through such strict standards, thus have the potentially to be excessively inferior, prone to cracking etc...a lot of rims these days are thrown off assembly lines in CHINA, mass produced for profit other than for automotive use...
thus in my mind id rather save a grand to make me sleep better at night.
whenever i refer to cheap, i'd put in consideration the time and money involved in the process of creating the wheel. Look on any work or Volk rim, it meets safety standards set in japan (it reads JIL on the rim). Not only is the rim test for safety, nissan and other companies invest millions of dollars into throwing these rims on their cars...im just saying that i didn't throw money into volks just to be baller, I wanted something that was reliable and something i could trust.
as you can see some other wheels we write off as "cheap" do not go through such strict standards, thus have the potentially to be excessively inferior, prone to cracking etc...a lot of rims these days are thrown off assembly lines in CHINA, mass produced for profit other than for automotive use...
thus in my mind id rather save a grand to make me sleep better at night.
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#24
Originally Posted by intense660
btw on another note... oem 19's are RAY'S forged. rays= volk
whenever i refer to cheap, i'd put in consideration the time and money involved in the process of creating the wheel. Look on any work or Volk rim, it meets safety standards set in japan (it reads JIL on the rim). Not only is the rim test for safety, nissan and other companies invest millions of dollars into throwing these rims on their cars...im just saying that i didn't throw money into volks just to be baller, I wanted something that was reliable and something i could trust.
as you can see some other wheels we write off as "cheap" do not go through such strict standards, thus have the potentially to be excessively inferior, prone to cracking etc...a lot of rims these days are thrown off assembly lines in CHINA, mass produced for profit other than for automotive use...
thus in my mind id rather save a grand to make me sleep better at night.
whenever i refer to cheap, i'd put in consideration the time and money involved in the process of creating the wheel. Look on any work or Volk rim, it meets safety standards set in japan (it reads JIL on the rim). Not only is the rim test for safety, nissan and other companies invest millions of dollars into throwing these rims on their cars...im just saying that i didn't throw money into volks just to be baller, I wanted something that was reliable and something i could trust.
as you can see some other wheels we write off as "cheap" do not go through such strict standards, thus have the potentially to be excessively inferior, prone to cracking etc...a lot of rims these days are thrown off assembly lines in CHINA, mass produced for profit other than for automotive use...
thus in my mind id rather save a grand to make me sleep better at night.
JIL simply is meeting the standards of safety in Japan. A set of Racing Sparco or 5 Zigen have JIL on them. Does that equal the quality of Volks?
#25
Originally Posted by SGV35skyline
The quality on Volks or/and Works are much higher than say: Axis or Sportmax. We are paying alot more than what the Japanese are paying because it is their domestic wheels.
A set of 19 Axis new will run you 2500 but a set of new Volks will run you around 4000.
A set of 19 Axis new will run you 2500 but a set of new Volks will run you around 4000.
Unless you're including tires in your prices.
#26
Originally Posted by Adon
well what do you guys consider cheap wheels ? what are cheap wheels according to the all mighty standard ? there's like this huge bandwagon everyone is riding that if you don't have Volks or Works or whatever else that you got yourself a cheap set of wheels....scares the **** outta everyone else on the forum when they wanna buy their wheels... so what is cheap, below $2000 ?? below $1000 ??
RPM 505's are pretty sweet looking and with tires will put you right past $2000 brand new, the Axis Pentas are $2500 with tires....... I must be missing the point here, but I don't think those prices equate to "CHEAP WHEELS"
I think what most of you guys do is simply compare the quality of the wheel to the usual suspects like Volk or Work and obviously none of these other manufacturers have the quality of Volk/Work, so you guys automatically label them "CHEAP". Do you guys really think that Volk wheels that cost $3000 here in the US cost that same amount over in Japan ? over there they probably cost the same price as a set of RPM wheels here...
Seriously you guys come off like big ballers when you call a $2500 set of wheels "CHEAP".... if you were ballers though, wouldn't you be driving $100k + cars where wheels must be at least 5k to be worthy enough to be on the ride.
RPM 505's are pretty sweet looking and with tires will put you right past $2000 brand new, the Axis Pentas are $2500 with tires....... I must be missing the point here, but I don't think those prices equate to "CHEAP WHEELS"
I think what most of you guys do is simply compare the quality of the wheel to the usual suspects like Volk or Work and obviously none of these other manufacturers have the quality of Volk/Work, so you guys automatically label them "CHEAP". Do you guys really think that Volk wheels that cost $3000 here in the US cost that same amount over in Japan ? over there they probably cost the same price as a set of RPM wheels here...
Seriously you guys come off like big ballers when you call a $2500 set of wheels "CHEAP".... if you were ballers though, wouldn't you be driving $100k + cars where wheels must be at least 5k to be worthy enough to be on the ride.
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#27
^ did they cause the accident by cracking or snapping ? it looks just like a regular accident, and the wheel actually looks pretty solid after an accident like that. The lip just peeled off and that happens to even the highest grade wheels, but the actual wheel on the inside is still solid, which is a very good thing. Most poor quality wheels the whole wheel will actually break off the hub after an accident like that. That picture looks more to be a positive for RPM wheels instead of a negative.
And in my whole write up nowhere did I defend the quality of certain wheels, I was just talking about prices.
And in my whole write up nowhere did I defend the quality of certain wheels, I was just talking about prices.
Last edited by Adon; 04-24-2008 at 03:51 AM.
#30
Originally Posted by Adon
well what do you guys consider cheap wheels ? what are cheap wheels according to the all mighty standard ? there's like this huge bandwagon everyone is riding that if you don't have Volks or Works or whatever else that you got yourself a cheap set of wheels....scares the **** outta everyone else on the forum when they wanna buy their wheels... so what is cheap, below $2000 ?? below $1000 ??
RPM 505's are pretty sweet looking and with tires will put you right past $2000 brand new, the Axis Pentas are $2500 with tires....... I must be missing the point here, but I don't think those prices equate to "CHEAP WHEELS"
I think what most of you guys do is simply compare the quality of the wheel to the usual suspects like Volk or Work and obviously none of these other manufacturers have the quality of Volk/Work, so you guys automatically label them "CHEAP". Do you guys really think that Volk wheels that cost $3000 here in the US cost that same amount over in Japan ? over there they probably cost the same price as a set of RPM wheels here...
Seriously you guys come off like big ballers when you call a $2500 set of wheels "CHEAP".... if you were ballers though, wouldn't you be driving $100k + cars where wheels must be at least 5k to be worthy enough to be on the ride.
RPM 505's are pretty sweet looking and with tires will put you right past $2000 brand new, the Axis Pentas are $2500 with tires....... I must be missing the point here, but I don't think those prices equate to "CHEAP WHEELS"
I think what most of you guys do is simply compare the quality of the wheel to the usual suspects like Volk or Work and obviously none of these other manufacturers have the quality of Volk/Work, so you guys automatically label them "CHEAP". Do you guys really think that Volk wheels that cost $3000 here in the US cost that same amount over in Japan ? over there they probably cost the same price as a set of RPM wheels here...
Seriously you guys come off like big ballers when you call a $2500 set of wheels "CHEAP".... if you were ballers though, wouldn't you be driving $100k + cars where wheels must be at least 5k to be worthy enough to be on the ride.
I always assume when people talk about cheap wheels they are referring to the quality of the rim. Wheels are almost always priced accordingly to how well they are made. So in most cases, a cheap priced rim is not as well made as a more expensive rim. Yes we pay more money for Volks and works here in North America, just like we pay more money for a G35/37 in North America.
I think your impression of Volk and Work wheel owners is that we think we're all high and mighty because we own them, and whenever someone comes along and asks about a lesser quality/price wheel, we tell them its crap. I think for the most part, we are just trying to tell you that for a bit more you can have higher quality. Some people just don't know how to say that in a manner that isn't degrading. Most people will go buy 19 and 20 inch rims, therefore you will not have very much tire between the rim and the asphalt. Most people will be driving this car daily. You'll have a much better chance of a forged rim surviving the same pothole/bump/other incident than a cast rim given the same tire. That being said, no rim is indesructable, it just lowers your chances of having to get anything fixed.