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New non-OEM rear tires, old OEM front tires. VDC kicking in. F@$K!!

Old Jun 2, 2009 | 10:21 PM
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Angry New non-OEM rear tires, old OEM front tires. VDC kicking in. F@$K!!

Ok, so I made a dumb f@$ing rookie mistake. I did my research on the web and this board and thought I would be safe by just replacing my rear tires only - as long as they were the same size and load rating as the OEM rears (245/40/19 & 94Y). My rears were bald, and the fronts have about 30% tread left. I looked at getting the OEM Bridgestone Potenza, but they were too expensive, and the treadwear rating sucked, so I decided to go with Yokohama S. Drives. Now, if I take a corner too quickly, the VDC kicks in and applies the brakes and flashes the SLIP light. Completely takes all the fun out of it. To make things worst, Yokohama S. Drives dont come in 225/40/19, so if I replace the fronts, it wont be the same diameter. I guess my question is, what should i do?

Should I:
A) Get new front Yoko S. Drives in 215/40/19 or 235/40/19 (1.2% diam difference, speedo will read slower or faster with these 2 respectively)
B) Get new Bridgestone Potenzas for the rear, and trade or sell the S. Drives
C) Suck it up and just turn the VDC off when driving hard
D) Drive like an old lady
 
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Old Jun 2, 2009 | 10:30 PM
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Originally Posted by kable33
Ok, so I made a dumb f@$ing rookie mistake. I did my research on the web and this board and thought I would be safe by just replacing my rear tires only - as long as they were the same size and load rating as the OEM rears (245/40/19 & 94Y). My rears were bald, and the fronts have about 30% tread left. I looked at getting the OEM Bridgestone Potenza, but they were too expensive, and the treadwear rating sucked, so I decided to go with Yokohama S. Drives. Now, if I take a corner too quickly, the VDC kicks in and applies the brakes and flashes the SLIP light. Completely takes all the fun out of it. To make things worst, Yokohama S. Drives dont come in 225/40/19, so if I replace the fronts, it wont be the same diameter. I guess my question is, what should i do?

Should I:
A) Get new front Yoko S. Drives in 215/40/19 or 235/40/19 (1.2% diam difference, speedo will read slower or faster with these 2 respectively)
B) Get new Bridgestone Potenzas for the rear, and trade or sell the S. Drives
C) Suck it up and just turn the VDC off when driving hard
D) Drive like an old lady
A) Turn vdc off unless it is raining.
B) get nitto NT-05's. They come in the correct oem sizes and are $200 a pop. Best tire for the price and I will say they are the best tire for the G on the street at any price
 
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Old Jun 2, 2009 | 11:11 PM
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^^ Nitto huh? So you think I should just get 4 new Nitto NT-05s in the OEM sizes?
 
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Old Jun 2, 2009 | 11:53 PM
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http://www.discounttiredirect.com/di...09117&sw=false
 
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Old Jun 3, 2009 | 01:02 AM
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do not get nt-05's unless you never drive in the rain. don't expect them to last very long either. If the s-drives come in 245/35/19, get those for the front
 
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Old Jun 3, 2009 | 07:30 AM
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Originally Posted by redlude97
do not get nt-05's unless you never drive in the rain. don't expect them to last very long either. If the s-drives come in 245/35/19, get those for the front
I'm in the South and we do get our share of rain, especially during spring and hurricane season. So I would need something that atleast performs on par with the bridgestones, even if they are summer tires. The S. Drives do come in 245/35/19, but I don't think I want to go that wide and short on the front. Thanks though. I'm leaning towards 235/40/19.
 
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Old Jun 3, 2009 | 11:50 AM
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Originally Posted by redlude97
do not get nt-05's unless you never drive in the rain. don't expect them to last very long either. If the s-drives come in 245/35/19, get those for the front
I don't know where you are pulling that from but the NT-05's perform great in the rain. They have 2 huge water channels down the middle and every review I ever read as well as my own experience with them for the past 3 months says the same

http://redirectingat.com/?id=42X119&...05-tire-review
 
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Old Jun 3, 2009 | 11:54 AM
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http://www.planetporsche.net/cayman-...05-review.html
Track Performance: I started out on a wet track in the rain and I have to say the tires were scary bad in those conditions – I felt like I was driving on ice through every turn, and I was getting passed by everyone else on street tires. I would not recommend them for wet conditions. Once the track dried out, I was more impressed. Even at full tread, there was little if any tread squirm, and they have very good turn in and steering response. They seem to be as predictable at the limit as the NT01s, but that limit is a bit lower. I found that the optimum pressures seem to be similar to the NT01s as well – when my rears heated up to over 40 psi, they started to get pretty loose; keeping the hot pressures in the upper 30s seemed to work pretty well.
 
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Old Jun 3, 2009 | 01:49 PM
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^^ Whooow! Dude pulled out the Porsche tire review! But I think I'll just choose option C) from my original post, just suck it up and turn off VDC when i'm cornering hard. I'll be getting new wheels & tires in a few months anyway. Just write this one off as a rookie mistake.
 
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Old Jun 3, 2009 | 02:05 PM
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go with dunlops all around..extremely impressive tires
 
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Old Jun 3, 2009 | 09:48 PM
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well we can post competing reviews all day long:

"Generally a tire with this much grip in the dry suffers in the rain; however, in the wet we were surprised at just how well the Nitto NT05’s performed. The NT05’s provided excellent traction on wet roads, even at highway speeds. In the twisty mountain roads of Southern Virginia and Northwestern North Carolina the Nitto NT05’s bit into the wet pavement hard and didn’t let go. We had previously reviewed the other new tire from Nitto, the INVO, and lamented its lack of wet grip at highway speeds. The Nitto NT05 does not seem to suffer from this malady."

I read several reviews before I bought them and what you posted was the only thing i have seen that said they were bad in wet. Given the size of the water channels and the stickiness of the compound I dismiss that review as a porsche snob not wanting to give props to a $200 tire. Maybe he would be happier with a P-zero nero just because it said pirelli on it no matter how much it sucked.
 
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Old Jun 4, 2009 | 03:43 PM
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Go with the S Drive 235's on the front. the tire fills out the wheel and they don't look too short. I went with the S-Drives all around and love them.
 
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Old Jun 4, 2009 | 03:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Knoxrower
Go with the S Drive 235's on the front. the tire fills out the wheel and they don't look too short. I went with the S-Drives all around and love them.
Ok cool! 2 questions though.

1) Will these tires be too narrow (235 & 245) for an aftermarket wheel? I'm getting some Axis wheels in a few months that are 35mm F and 40mm R wide.

2) Is 235/40 on front and 245/40 on back a good setup, will there be any handling issues?
 

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