Yes they do!!! Went and double checked in my garage. If you look under your car you can see the ones on the rear swaybar. They are silver in color. The real question is how important these are and what are the impacts of not having them?

04' Sedan 6MT Silver/Graphite/Premium/Aero/HuperOptik/XM
Z-Tube / Stillen- Sways, Airbox & Grounding Kit
19x8.5/9.5 Hiros / S-03s 245/40 & 275/35zr19
04' Coupe Suspension OTW

 

Here is another pic of the front where the bushing is located. You can't really tell from the pic but there is a bracket the is holding the bushing in place. The poly bushing will keep the sways from being off center. Believe me on this once you tighten the bolt down on the bracket that sway bar is not going to go anywhere. Having the colar there will not really matter at this point.



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Here is the rear notice the grease fitting I mentioned earlier...



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ok, this sucks BIGTIME!!! can you take a quick pic of them?
i think theyre important!
if theyre on the stock ones, AND on Eibach, AND on Stillen, AND on Nismo, why not on Hotchkis?? and is that why theyre so much cheaper than the other ones??
i might just sell my hotchkis and buy the Stillens... what do you think???

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z-tube / k&n drop-in / Eclipse AudioVideoNavigation 2454 / side-blinker mod

 

Ok, I am no expert, and my background is not in engineering, but I believe the collars are there to keep the bar from sliding laterally. I think this feature makes the bar more effective. I believe some of the stiffer qualities of the Hotchkis are cancelled out by some, however miniscule, lateral movement of the bar under load. But then again I could be full of @$%&!

04' Sedan 6MT Silver/Graphite/Premium/Aero/HuperOptik/XM
Z-Tube / Stillen- Sways, Airbox & Grounding Kit
19x8.5/9.5 Hiros / S-03s 245/40 & 275/35zr19
04' Coupe Suspension OTW

 

The collar on the Stillen bars are not silver, but the same
color as the rest of the bar. I have the Stillen bars, installed
at the tightest settings. The car handles like stock when
driving casually. But when you get on it in the turns, MAN
it handles better. It is like it is on rails during high speed
turns. I love them!

03 5AT Sedan, sunroof, splashguards, HKS muffler,
14 wire Grounding kit, Z Duct, Stillen HF/AB
Underbody rear diffusers, Drilled alum pedals,
Stillen sway bars H/H

 

Check out my profile if you want a look at the stock bars out of the car.

04' Sedan 6MT Silver/Graphite/Premium/Aero/HuperOptik/XM
Z-Tube / Stillen- Sways, Airbox & Grounding Kit
19x8.5/9.5 Hiros / S-03s 245/40 & 275/35zr19
04' Coupe Suspension OTW

 

I too have the Hotchkis bars. I ran Medium up front (middle setting) and soft in the rear (last setting).

i like the overall feel and the rear isn't too stiff. I have a good 120lbs of stereo stuff in the trunk too, so I didn't want it too stiff. I'm sure either bar is good, but I'm very happy with my choice, and setup.

"My 2 cents"

Joe

 

thanks for the pic!

ok, this new info makes me wanna sell my hotchkis and buy Stillens... damn!!!!

04 / Black Obsidian / Graphite Leather / aero / splash / prem / perf / cc / 22%tint
z-tube / k&n drop-in / Eclipse AudioVideoNavigation 2454 / side-blinker mod

 

Newbie question: Can someone explain what swaybars do and how they improve your ride.

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They prevent body roll and help the tires stay more squarely planted on the road. If you have a lot of understeer and get a stiffer rear sway bar it can correct this problem by letting the rear end kick out a little. If you have a lot of oversteer (*** is all over the place) you can get a stiffer front sway bar and even it up a little by overloading the front tires a little. The adjustable features of the aftermarket sways allows a person to tune his/her suspension to specific settings to meet their driving needs and setup (staggered wheels or not/lowered or not) etc... And yes there is such a thing as too stiff.

A swaybar basically connects the right and left sides of the suspension, reducing the independent qualities a little.

When people are saying stiffest or lightest setting they are talking about the body roll characteristics. THE SETTINGS ON THE SWAYS HAVE NO AFFECT ON OVERALL STIFFNESS (RIDE QUALITY) OF THE SUSPENSION, so EustaqJA, I am not sure why you set your suspension the way you did. It will not affect the stiffness of the ride quality in the back. Also, our cars understeer a little stock and it appears that your settup (stiffer in the front than in the back) will exagerrate this. Most members have their bars set the same setting front and back or one setting stiffer in the back to make the car more neutral.

Biggzy, hope that clears things up a little.

04' Sedan 6MT Silver/Graphite/Premium/Aero/HuperOptik/XM
Z-Tube / Stillen- Sways, Airbox & Grounding Kit
19x8.5/9.5 Hiros / S-03s 245/40 & 275/35zr19
04' Coupe Suspension OTW

 

Swaybars do not affect ride. They make the car handle corners better. When you corner hard you can feel the car 'lean' to the side. Like it wants to tip over (it slides before it ever comes close to tipping). Upgrading to stiffer sway bars keeps the car more flat through corners. They do not let the car 'lean' as much. The car will feel more like its on rails.
Swaybars connect the left suspension arm to the right one. When the whole car moves up and down the bars just move with the car. But when you corner and it leans to one side, one arm wants to go up and the other wants to go down, thus effectively twisting the bar. The stiffer the bar is, the harder it is to twist. The swaybar tries to hold left and right together and not let them move opposite of eachother.
Keeps the car flatter.
I hope that helps and did not confuse you any more. I think I confused myself a little though.

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are there any other companies that make sways?

04 DG/G/6MT/Premium/Nav/Clear Bra
Bone Stock...to be continued...
"You kill mah brodah, now I kill you!" - some old kung-fu flick

 

Eibach, Stillen, Nismo, Hotchkis, for our cars at least...

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z-tube / k&n drop-in / Eclipse AudioVideoNavigation 2454 / side-blinker mod

 

Thanks for the info av8r, that was a great reply.