Raderwerks Wheels Question?!?!?!
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^^ Hey thanks, Tim.
I don't mind providing helpful information to the OP, mostly because he posted in a manner that's he's already partially done some research but just wanted to clarify a few things. That I can respect because sometimes reading isn't the same as someone helping you out.
Haha, I do sometimes jump on the band wagon and tell people to search though, because it is frustrating when you see people ask really simple questions without providing additional information, such as:
"what exhaust is best?" - Best for what?
"i want these wheels help me choose best." - What look are you going for?
The OP came here and posted all the information needed for us to be able to judge how the wheel would look in his car. That I can definitely respect because he's at least been looking around and reading some information. I don't mind pointing people in the right direction because they're confused or unsure. What I do mind is giving people hand outs.
- Son
I don't mind providing helpful information to the OP, mostly because he posted in a manner that's he's already partially done some research but just wanted to clarify a few things. That I can respect because sometimes reading isn't the same as someone helping you out.
Haha, I do sometimes jump on the band wagon and tell people to search though, because it is frustrating when you see people ask really simple questions without providing additional information, such as:
"what exhaust is best?" - Best for what?
"i want these wheels help me choose best." - What look are you going for?
The OP came here and posted all the information needed for us to be able to judge how the wheel would look in his car. That I can definitely respect because he's at least been looking around and reading some information. I don't mind pointing people in the right direction because they're confused or unsure. What I do mind is giving people hand outs.
- Son
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Don't be ashamed, we're all here to help. I didn't know much either until I got onto this forum and did some reading. I still don't know everything and I am by no means a fitment guru. So if I do make a mistake in here, then I hope someone else can chime in and correct me.
For flush you want it to be flush with the fender. If you want to be hellaflush, you want your tire to be tucked in with the wheel lined up with the fender, but not to a point where your wheel tucks into your wheel well. You're gonna be dumped if you want to be hellaflush as well. You'll also have to dial in some negative camber as well, which means that you will wear your inner tire a bit faster. Gotta pay to play if you wanna be hellaflush.
I don't know what offsets Raderwerks can offer you, you'll have to do that research on your own. Stretching tires is just getting a smaller width tire on a wider rim.
For example, normally on a 20x10.5 wheel, would most likely run a 275/30/20 size tire or a 285/30/20. But if you're looking to stretch, then most people will run a 255/35/20 size tire or a 245/35/20. Again, its all for the look that you want and what is within your budget.
If you want to be hellaflush and can afford to wear out your tires more, then by all means, go for the look. Just remember that you'll be paying for the proper fender and suspension work. Not cheap.
As for rolling your fenders, there is a DIY posted here on the forum that will show you how to do it if you want to do it yourself. If not, start calling some shops and ask if they know how to roll fenders.
- Son
For flush you want it to be flush with the fender. If you want to be hellaflush, you want your tire to be tucked in with the wheel lined up with the fender, but not to a point where your wheel tucks into your wheel well. You're gonna be dumped if you want to be hellaflush as well. You'll also have to dial in some negative camber as well, which means that you will wear your inner tire a bit faster. Gotta pay to play if you wanna be hellaflush.
I don't know what offsets Raderwerks can offer you, you'll have to do that research on your own. Stretching tires is just getting a smaller width tire on a wider rim.
For example, normally on a 20x10.5 wheel, would most likely run a 275/30/20 size tire or a 285/30/20. But if you're looking to stretch, then most people will run a 255/35/20 size tire or a 245/35/20. Again, its all for the look that you want and what is within your budget.
If you want to be hellaflush and can afford to wear out your tires more, then by all means, go for the look. Just remember that you'll be paying for the proper fender and suspension work. Not cheap.
As for rolling your fenders, there is a DIY posted here on the forum that will show you how to do it if you want to do it yourself. If not, start calling some shops and ask if they know how to roll fenders.
- Son
Son, you the man!!! Thanks for everything man, I got what offset means and a better understanding of everything. So now, I need to find the right rims with the right offset that I can afford, any suggestions ??? ANYONE!?!?
What is Patman running on his car, in that second picture with the mesh spoke style?
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This is where I can help you out.
Patman is running the WORK VS-XX on his ride. I can't remember if they are 19's or 20's. I can probably look them up but I'm lazy right now.
Again, I don't know what kind of look that you're looking for or what kind of wheels that you want. Hell, I don't even know if you even want those Raderwerks, still. But, if you're interested in a good quality wheel, then its going to cost you some money and possibly some wait time if they have to be manufactured, unless you buy used.
Most people here on the forum prefer to run Volk, Work, DPE, and HRE wheels. The last 2 brand names being very pricey. If I'm not mistaken though, I do believe that Volk have raised their prices a bit. But don't quote me on that, I haven't shopped for wheels in a long time. There are some here that run some Axis wheels because they're cheaper and they still look good, but from what I can tell, the prestige of running the other 4 wheel brand names I mentioned above is higher. And that's not to take away from anyone running Axis wheels, you mod your car with what is in your budget. We all have that problem.
Now choosing your wheels is all going to come down to your budget. The above mentioned brand names will range from $2500 to $3500 without tires, brand new. Remember that 19" tires are more expensive then 20" tires, but don't let that discourage you from getting the wheels that you want. If you find a set of 19" wheels that you really like, then get them over the 20". I personally would get 20's, because I think they're the perfect size for our cars, but 19's are good too though. I wouldn't go any smaller then 19" though, but that's just my opinion.
Now there are many ways you can do this. If you're looking to order brand new, I do know that WORK wheels will let you choose what offset you want, along with the wheel widths and diameters. You'd have to check out WORK wheel website and look at their wheel charts to determine if they offer them in the offset and size that you want. However, its going to be a waiting period if you order WORK wheels because they have to be made. I ordered mine back in late March and my wheels just finally arrived in Cali on the 29th. I'm not too sure if DPE and HRE offer the same thing that WORK does, but I'm pretty sure they do. If anyone reading this knows about that, then feel free to chime in on that. From what I've seen, Volk doesn't let you choose your offset, so you'd have to just find a wheel within the offset range that you like.
If you're looking for brand new, there are many vendors in the Market Place that will sell you both wheels and tires. Some vendors may even have the wheels in stock so you don't have to wait like 4 months like I did. I would suggest checking out the guys at B2AutoDesigns, RAVSpec, and Don@TireOption. I have heard good things about all three of them (not to take away from any other vendor), and I can personally vouch for Don because I ordered my wheels through him because he's local to me.
If you want to try and save some money but still want a decent set of wheels, I would suggest going through the Private Classifieds in the market place and looking for a set of used wheels. Nothing wrong with getting a set of used wheels, but just remember that selections will be limited because they're obviously being sold by Private owners. But remember, just because they're not in the exact offset that you want from Private owners, doesn't mean that you can't run spacers with a set of used wheels. There is nothing wrong with that. People on the forum do it all the time.
So if you're going to order new, get the offset that you want without having to run spacers. That's just something that I've learned from speaking to fitment gurus and reading their posts. Besides, it makes sense if you're going to order new. Get what YOU want and not some BS offset where you have to run a spacer on your NEW wheel.
If you're getting a used set and the offset isn't exactly what you want, then get some spacers to achieve the offset that you want.
I hope this helps.
- Son
BTW, if any type of fitment king reads the above post and I have stated any incorrect information, please feel free to correct me. I'm still learning too.
Patman is running the WORK VS-XX on his ride. I can't remember if they are 19's or 20's. I can probably look them up but I'm lazy right now.
Again, I don't know what kind of look that you're looking for or what kind of wheels that you want. Hell, I don't even know if you even want those Raderwerks, still. But, if you're interested in a good quality wheel, then its going to cost you some money and possibly some wait time if they have to be manufactured, unless you buy used.
Most people here on the forum prefer to run Volk, Work, DPE, and HRE wheels. The last 2 brand names being very pricey. If I'm not mistaken though, I do believe that Volk have raised their prices a bit. But don't quote me on that, I haven't shopped for wheels in a long time. There are some here that run some Axis wheels because they're cheaper and they still look good, but from what I can tell, the prestige of running the other 4 wheel brand names I mentioned above is higher. And that's not to take away from anyone running Axis wheels, you mod your car with what is in your budget. We all have that problem.
Now choosing your wheels is all going to come down to your budget. The above mentioned brand names will range from $2500 to $3500 without tires, brand new. Remember that 19" tires are more expensive then 20" tires, but don't let that discourage you from getting the wheels that you want. If you find a set of 19" wheels that you really like, then get them over the 20". I personally would get 20's, because I think they're the perfect size for our cars, but 19's are good too though. I wouldn't go any smaller then 19" though, but that's just my opinion.
Now there are many ways you can do this. If you're looking to order brand new, I do know that WORK wheels will let you choose what offset you want, along with the wheel widths and diameters. You'd have to check out WORK wheel website and look at their wheel charts to determine if they offer them in the offset and size that you want. However, its going to be a waiting period if you order WORK wheels because they have to be made. I ordered mine back in late March and my wheels just finally arrived in Cali on the 29th. I'm not too sure if DPE and HRE offer the same thing that WORK does, but I'm pretty sure they do. If anyone reading this knows about that, then feel free to chime in on that. From what I've seen, Volk doesn't let you choose your offset, so you'd have to just find a wheel within the offset range that you like.
If you're looking for brand new, there are many vendors in the Market Place that will sell you both wheels and tires. Some vendors may even have the wheels in stock so you don't have to wait like 4 months like I did. I would suggest checking out the guys at B2AutoDesigns, RAVSpec, and Don@TireOption. I have heard good things about all three of them (not to take away from any other vendor), and I can personally vouch for Don because I ordered my wheels through him because he's local to me.
If you want to try and save some money but still want a decent set of wheels, I would suggest going through the Private Classifieds in the market place and looking for a set of used wheels. Nothing wrong with getting a set of used wheels, but just remember that selections will be limited because they're obviously being sold by Private owners. But remember, just because they're not in the exact offset that you want from Private owners, doesn't mean that you can't run spacers with a set of used wheels. There is nothing wrong with that. People on the forum do it all the time.
So if you're going to order new, get the offset that you want without having to run spacers. That's just something that I've learned from speaking to fitment gurus and reading their posts. Besides, it makes sense if you're going to order new. Get what YOU want and not some BS offset where you have to run a spacer on your NEW wheel.
If you're getting a used set and the offset isn't exactly what you want, then get some spacers to achieve the offset that you want.
I hope this helps.
- Son
BTW, if any type of fitment king reads the above post and I have stated any incorrect information, please feel free to correct me. I'm still learning too.
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This is where I can help you out.
Patman is running the WORK VS-XX on his ride. I can't remember if they are 19's or 20's. I can probably look them up but I'm lazy right now.
Again, I don't know what kind of look that you're looking for or what kind of wheels that you want. Hell, I don't even know if you even want those Raderwerks, still. But, if you're interested in a good quality wheel, then its going to cost you some money and possibly some wait time if they have to be manufactured, unless you buy used.
Most people here on the forum prefer to run Volk, Work, DPE, and HRE wheels. The last 2 brand names being very pricey. If I'm not mistaken though, I do believe that Volk have raised their prices a bit. But don't quote me on that, I haven't shopped for wheels in a long time. There are some here that run some Axis wheels because they're cheaper and they still look good, but from what I can tell, the prestige of running the other 4 wheel brand names I mentioned above is higher. And that's not to take away from anyone running Axis wheels, you mod your car with what is in your budget. We all have that problem.
Now choosing your wheels is all going to come down to your budget. The above mentioned brand names will range from $2500 to $3500 without tires, brand new. Remember that 19" tires are more expensive then 20" tires, but don't let that discourage you from getting the wheels that you want. If you find a set of 19" wheels that you really like, then get them over the 20". I personally would get 20's, because I think they're the perfect size for our cars, but 19's are good too though. I wouldn't go any smaller then 19" though, but that's just my opinion.
Now there are many ways you can do this. If you're looking to order brand new, I do know that WORK wheels will let you choose what offset you want, along with the wheel widths and diameters. You'd have to check out WORK wheel website and look at their wheel charts to determine if they offer them in the offset and size that you want. However, its going to be a waiting period if you order WORK wheels because they have to be made. I ordered mine back in late March and my wheels just finally arrived in Cali on the 29th. I'm not too sure if DPE and HRE offer the same thing that WORK does, but I'm pretty sure they do. If anyone reading this knows about that, then feel free to chime in on that. From what I've seen, Volk doesn't let you choose your offset, so you'd have to just find a wheel within the offset range that you like.
If you're looking for brand new, there are many vendors in the Market Place that will sell you both wheels and tires. Some vendors may even have the wheels in stock so you don't have to wait like 4 months like I did. I would suggest checking out the guys at B2AutoDesigns, RAVSpec, and Don@TireOption. I have heard good things about all three of them (not to take away from any other vendor), and I can personally vouch for Don because I ordered my wheels through him because he's local to me.
If you want to try and save some money but still want a decent set of wheels, I would suggest going through the Private Classifieds in the market place and looking for a set of used wheels. Nothing wrong with getting a set of used wheels, but just remember that selections will be limited because they're obviously being sold by Private owners. But remember, just because they're not in the exact offset that you want from Private owners, doesn't mean that you can't run spacers with a set of used wheels. There is nothing wrong with that. People on the forum do it all the time.
So if you're going to order new, get the offset that you want without having to run spacers. That's just something that I've learned from speaking to fitment gurus and reading their posts. Besides, it makes sense if you're going to order new. Get what YOU want and not some BS offset where you have to run a spacer on your NEW wheel.
If you're getting a used set and the offset isn't exactly what you want, then get some spacers to achieve the offset that you want.
I hope this helps.
- Son
BTW, if any type of fitment king reads the above post and I have stated any incorrect information, please feel free to correct me. I'm still learning too.
Patman is running the WORK VS-XX on his ride. I can't remember if they are 19's or 20's. I can probably look them up but I'm lazy right now.
Again, I don't know what kind of look that you're looking for or what kind of wheels that you want. Hell, I don't even know if you even want those Raderwerks, still. But, if you're interested in a good quality wheel, then its going to cost you some money and possibly some wait time if they have to be manufactured, unless you buy used.
Most people here on the forum prefer to run Volk, Work, DPE, and HRE wheels. The last 2 brand names being very pricey. If I'm not mistaken though, I do believe that Volk have raised their prices a bit. But don't quote me on that, I haven't shopped for wheels in a long time. There are some here that run some Axis wheels because they're cheaper and they still look good, but from what I can tell, the prestige of running the other 4 wheel brand names I mentioned above is higher. And that's not to take away from anyone running Axis wheels, you mod your car with what is in your budget. We all have that problem.
Now choosing your wheels is all going to come down to your budget. The above mentioned brand names will range from $2500 to $3500 without tires, brand new. Remember that 19" tires are more expensive then 20" tires, but don't let that discourage you from getting the wheels that you want. If you find a set of 19" wheels that you really like, then get them over the 20". I personally would get 20's, because I think they're the perfect size for our cars, but 19's are good too though. I wouldn't go any smaller then 19" though, but that's just my opinion.
Now there are many ways you can do this. If you're looking to order brand new, I do know that WORK wheels will let you choose what offset you want, along with the wheel widths and diameters. You'd have to check out WORK wheel website and look at their wheel charts to determine if they offer them in the offset and size that you want. However, its going to be a waiting period if you order WORK wheels because they have to be made. I ordered mine back in late March and my wheels just finally arrived in Cali on the 29th. I'm not too sure if DPE and HRE offer the same thing that WORK does, but I'm pretty sure they do. If anyone reading this knows about that, then feel free to chime in on that. From what I've seen, Volk doesn't let you choose your offset, so you'd have to just find a wheel within the offset range that you like.
If you're looking for brand new, there are many vendors in the Market Place that will sell you both wheels and tires. Some vendors may even have the wheels in stock so you don't have to wait like 4 months like I did. I would suggest checking out the guys at B2AutoDesigns, RAVSpec, and Don@TireOption. I have heard good things about all three of them (not to take away from any other vendor), and I can personally vouch for Don because I ordered my wheels through him because he's local to me.
If you want to try and save some money but still want a decent set of wheels, I would suggest going through the Private Classifieds in the market place and looking for a set of used wheels. Nothing wrong with getting a set of used wheels, but just remember that selections will be limited because they're obviously being sold by Private owners. But remember, just because they're not in the exact offset that you want from Private owners, doesn't mean that you can't run spacers with a set of used wheels. There is nothing wrong with that. People on the forum do it all the time.
So if you're going to order new, get the offset that you want without having to run spacers. That's just something that I've learned from speaking to fitment gurus and reading their posts. Besides, it makes sense if you're going to order new. Get what YOU want and not some BS offset where you have to run a spacer on your NEW wheel.
If you're getting a used set and the offset isn't exactly what you want, then get some spacers to achieve the offset that you want.
I hope this helps.
- Son
BTW, if any type of fitment king reads the above post and I have stated any incorrect information, please feel free to correct me. I'm still learning too.
First off, I was thinking 19" because theyre a little bigger than my stock 18" and seems like I will keep my performance, handling and such with those. 20" would be dope but would the bigger rim have any adverse affects to my cars performance besides a little extra weight ? also another question I have is that I hear guys are puttin on tires like 255 in the front and 275 in the back but when I put 255 on my stock wheels it made my traction control kick in all the time and the dealership said it was because it was the bigger tires since stocks run 245 in the back, how does that work out???
I like those raderwerks a lot, they would cost me about $1000 and are the look im going for but from what Ive learned are not aggressive enough for me and have to high of an offset (From what i've learned im definitly looking for a single digit, possibly low offset WITHOUT SPACERS). I want to avoid spacers at all costs!!! In the rim I want that mesh style spoke design with a deeeeeeeeeep lip like the DPE S20 or the WORK VSXX or VOLK with the same style or I even saw these Kranson klassics or something which loooked EPICCC!!!! But all those wheels are like $3k plus and I at first only wanted to spend about $1k max but now im willing to spend around $2k seeing what I would get with $1k wouldnt be ideally the look I want. The AXIS penta are nice wheels and not tooooo expensive, BUT Im not sure if they are a very aggressive offset. Another thing is, I dont know exactly what offset size/# I want and how to achieve the best look.
And I will be sure to check out the marketplace and private sale stuff as well, I would of course prefer new wheels but if I find a great deal, well, what can ya do.
Son again man I really appreciate you taking your time to help me out, I can't wait till I finally order and get some wheels on my car and have you to thank for the help... Also looking at patmans car, I want his trunk and LED lights... and bags, and hood, and head lights hahahahaha
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also what are the advantages/disadvantages of getting a bigger width instead of the 8.5 in the front and 9.5 in the back, what would you all recommend and would I see any performance difference or is it all in the looks???
disadvantage though is, wider wheels mean lesser clearnace as stated before.. just so you know if you are dumped/slammed and you have wide tires up front such as a 9.5 or even an 8.5 with single digit/negative offsets you will be rubbing when you turn. a fender roll/pull/flare can fix that problem but its up to you how aggressive you want to be. i think the aggressive/stretched tires thread can give you better info with pictures on what setup you're most comfortable with. and its always fun to try it yourself and experiment on your own.
wow this is the longest ive ever typed on driver. wooh.
btw bro how much did they quote you on the wheels as ive been looking at raderwerks myself.
our bolt pattern btw is 5x114
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also another question I have is that I hear guys are puttin on tires like 255 in the front and 275 in the back but when I put 255 on my stock wheels it made my traction control kick in all the time and the dealership said it was because it was the bigger tires since stocks run 245 in the back, how does that work out???
https://g35driver.com/forums/wheels-...s-offsets.html
If I remember right, on an 8" wheel, you would be running a 225/40 or something like that. So a 255 on an OEM wheel is big.
This link will give you an idea of how different offsets will look like on our cars. The users who posted on that page also show what kinds of wheels in different sizes and widths. I highly suggest you check it out so you can come up with a look that you want. It also lists what their tire sizes are and what kind of tires they are running.
http://rimtuck.com/thumbnails.php?ve...del=G35+coupe&
In the rim I want that mesh style spoke design with a deeeeeeeeeep lip like the DPE S20 or the WORK VSXX or VOLK with the same style or I even saw these Kranson klassics or something which loooked EPICCC!!!! But all those wheels are like $3k plus and I at first only wanted to spend about $1k max but now im willing to spend around $2k seeing what I would get with $1k wouldnt be ideally the look I want. The AXIS penta are nice wheels and not tooooo expensive, BUT Im not sure if they are a very aggressive offset.
But also remember that good wheels aren't cheap. They do cost a pretty penny.
It will give you an idea of what to expect in picking your desired offset.
He definitely has one of the sickest rides out there. And lots of his mods are offered by some of the vendors here.
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i think that wider tires give better traction.. i guess better mpg but don;t quote me on that..
disadvantage though is, wider wheels mean lesser clearnace as stated before.. just so you know if you are dumped/slammed and you have wide tires up front such as a 9.5 or even an 8.5 with single digit/negative offsets you will be rubbing when you turn. a fender roll/pull/flare can fix that problem but its up to you how aggressive you want to be. i think the aggressive/stretched tires thread can give you better info with pictures on what setup you're most comfortable with. and its always fun to try it yourself and experiment on your own.
wow this is the longest ive ever typed on driver. wooh.
btw bro how much did they quote you on the wheels as ive been looking at raderwerks myself.
our bolt pattern btw is 5x114
disadvantage though is, wider wheels mean lesser clearnace as stated before.. just so you know if you are dumped/slammed and you have wide tires up front such as a 9.5 or even an 8.5 with single digit/negative offsets you will be rubbing when you turn. a fender roll/pull/flare can fix that problem but its up to you how aggressive you want to be. i think the aggressive/stretched tires thread can give you better info with pictures on what setup you're most comfortable with. and its always fun to try it yourself and experiment on your own.
wow this is the longest ive ever typed on driver. wooh.
btw bro how much did they quote you on the wheels as ive been looking at raderwerks myself.
our bolt pattern btw is 5x114
and the MTENs were about $1k
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Sounds good. Just remember that if you plan on going in the single digits that you'll need some suspension and fender work in order to clear. And a good tire stretch if you're going to be slammed if you plan on clearing.
You have good taste in wheels. If you like the Penta's, then get them. Again, there isn't anything wrong in running spacers if you need them to be more aggressive. At least in my opinion. Some others might disagree but what it ultimately comes down to is what you want.
and spacers would lower my offset right ? what are the cons to putting spacers on your car? Im going to do more research into spacers but I would rather be able to throw wheels on my car and have them fit right in the beginning.
Yeah the pentas are nice but I am looking for a deeep and big lip and Im not sure if these are the wheels, plus you can tell in the craftsmanship that companys like WORK, VOLK and DPE are beautiful and the others are just nicely made.
if you want a decent setup.. i would go
19x9.5 +10 235/35/19
19x10.5 +10 255/35/19
and a mild drop just to cover the wheel gap
or search people who have the same setup so you can see how it looks like.
i believe one of the swangnbang crewmembers was rocking raderwerks and it looks sick bro.
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whaaat? are you serious? damn i thought raderwerks was on the same price level as HRE's haha they presented their site reall well then..
if you want a decent setup.. i would go
19x9.5 +10 235/35/19
19x10.5 +10 255/35/19
and a mild drop just to cover the wheel gap
or search people who have the same setup so you can see how it looks like.
i believe one of the swangnbang crewmembers was rocking raderwerks and it looks sick bro.
if you want a decent setup.. i would go
19x9.5 +10 235/35/19
19x10.5 +10 255/35/19
and a mild drop just to cover the wheel gap
or search people who have the same setup so you can see how it looks like.
i believe one of the swangnbang crewmembers was rocking raderwerks and it looks sick bro.
Yeah those are siiiick man, the NOBLE 3 piece are the best but like $2500
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alright well this all sounds like more and more money haha.. So to get into the single digits I will need suspension work, what does that mean... I was intending to put springs to lower my car after I get the wheels on but would that be right ? And tire stretching is putting a smaller sized tire onto a bigger wheel, is any tire shop capable of a tire stretch ? and wont the tires wear quickly and awkwardly with them stretched?
and spacers would lower my offset right ? what are the cons to putting spacers on your car? Im going to do more research into spacers but I would rather be able to throw wheels on my car and have them fit right in the beginning.
Yeah the pentas are nice but I am looking for a deeep and big lip and Im not sure if these are the wheels, plus you can tell in the craftsmanship that companys like WORK, VOLK and DPE are beautiful and the others are just nicely made.
and spacers would lower my offset right ? what are the cons to putting spacers on your car? Im going to do more research into spacers but I would rather be able to throw wheels on my car and have them fit right in the beginning.
Yeah the pentas are nice but I am looking for a deeep and big lip and Im not sure if these are the wheels, plus you can tell in the craftsmanship that companys like WORK, VOLK and DPE are beautiful and the others are just nicely made.
When I say suspension work, I'm basically referring to your suspension set up. If you're going to be running aggressive single digit offsets, or maybe even negatives, you're going to need coils and not springs. Springs don't give you the freedom to adjust your height as coils would. So you'll be basically going from spending $150 or whatever on springs to $900 or so on coils, just so you can dial in the proper drop for your stance.
Second, with any kind of aggressive set up, you're going to be pretty slammed. You'll need both front and rear camber kits so you can dial in the proper amount of camber in order to clear your fenders if need be. If you look at some of the members on here (ShanesG, Eurodre, Donpisto, Patman, etc) you'll see that they are running pretty aggressive set ups with negative camber in the rear. This is so their tires are still tucked into the wheel wells and also so they will not rub on their fenders.
And yes, tire stretching is putting a smaller sized tire on a larger wheel. Not all tire shops are capable of stretching a tire onto a wheel. And some shops won't even touch it because they don't want to be liable in case "something happens." You're just going to have to find a shop that is willing to stretch a tire for you in your area.
There isn't anything wrong with putting spacers onto your car. If you get a spacer 15mm and above, I would highly recommend that you get the hubcentric ones, because they bolt directly on and are safer to run. You can also get extended studs for the 5mm and 10mm spacers if you choose to do so. The only thing that you have to make sure of when you're running spacers is that they are properly torqued and properly installed.
I am actually running 15mm and 25mm spacers on my OEM Rays right now, just to give them a bit more poke. Once my wheels come in next week, I'm considering running a spacer on those, but I wanna see them installed on my car first.
- Son
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It is more and more money if you want it done right.
When I say suspension work, I'm basically referring to your suspension set up. If you're going to be running aggressive single digit offsets, or maybe even negatives, you're going to need coils and not springs. Springs don't give you the freedom to adjust your height as coils would. So you'll be basically going from spending $150 or whatever on springs to $900 or so on coils, just so you can dial in the proper drop for your stance.
Second, with any kind of aggressive set up, you're going to be pretty slammed. You'll need both front and rear camber kits so you can dial in the proper amount of camber in order to clear your fenders if need be. If you look at some of the members on here (ShanesG, Eurodre, Donpisto, Patman, etc) you'll see that they are running pretty aggressive set ups with negative camber in the rear. This is so their tires are still tucked into the wheel wells and also so they will not rub on their fenders.
And yes, tire stretching is putting a smaller sized tire on a larger wheel. Not all tire shops are capable of stretching a tire onto a wheel. And some shops won't even touch it because they don't want to be liable in case "something happens." You're just going to have to find a shop that is willing to stretch a tire for you in your area.
There isn't anything wrong with putting spacers onto your car. If you get a spacer 15mm and above, I would highly recommend that you get the hubcentric ones, because they bolt directly on and are safer to run. You can also get extended studs for the 5mm and 10mm spacers if you choose to do so. The only thing that you have to make sure of when you're running spacers is that they are properly torqued and properly installed.
I am actually running 15mm and 25mm spacers on my OEM Rays right now, just to give them a bit more poke. Once my wheels come in next week, I'm considering running a spacer on those, but I wanna see them installed on my car first.
- Son
When I say suspension work, I'm basically referring to your suspension set up. If you're going to be running aggressive single digit offsets, or maybe even negatives, you're going to need coils and not springs. Springs don't give you the freedom to adjust your height as coils would. So you'll be basically going from spending $150 or whatever on springs to $900 or so on coils, just so you can dial in the proper drop for your stance.
Second, with any kind of aggressive set up, you're going to be pretty slammed. You'll need both front and rear camber kits so you can dial in the proper amount of camber in order to clear your fenders if need be. If you look at some of the members on here (ShanesG, Eurodre, Donpisto, Patman, etc) you'll see that they are running pretty aggressive set ups with negative camber in the rear. This is so their tires are still tucked into the wheel wells and also so they will not rub on their fenders.
And yes, tire stretching is putting a smaller sized tire on a larger wheel. Not all tire shops are capable of stretching a tire onto a wheel. And some shops won't even touch it because they don't want to be liable in case "something happens." You're just going to have to find a shop that is willing to stretch a tire for you in your area.
There isn't anything wrong with putting spacers onto your car. If you get a spacer 15mm and above, I would highly recommend that you get the hubcentric ones, because they bolt directly on and are safer to run. You can also get extended studs for the 5mm and 10mm spacers if you choose to do so. The only thing that you have to make sure of when you're running spacers is that they are properly torqued and properly installed.
I am actually running 15mm and 25mm spacers on my OEM Rays right now, just to give them a bit more poke. Once my wheels come in next week, I'm considering running a spacer on those, but I wanna see them installed on my car first.
- Son
and again any ideas on wheels around $2000 for the style I want and a low enough offset. I don't want to mess around with spacers cause they seem a little sketchy and not so safe and I dont want any problems to happen by adding more pieces to the puzzle you know.
