Tires worn quick, need help with new set
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Tires worn quick, need help with new set
I did a good amount of research and was very confident that my choice in the Continental Extreme Contact DWS tires would be a great buy, but after 25,000 miles they are already down to 3/32" and ready to be replaced.
The tire comes with a 50k mile warranty and I recall reading some people claim they got 60-70k miles so I thought I'd be able to get close to the 50,000 miles before needing new ones. I am not a track driver or do emergency braking or try and get the tires loose when it rains, but I also don't baby the car all the time. At stop lights I am likely a bit harder on the gas than I need to be, but I am also not 24/7 flooring it every chance I can get. Also, I rotated them every 5000 miles and got an alignment done the same week I put on the new rubber. With all that in mind, I could see that I may wear them out a bit quicker, but wouldn't have expected 1/2 the life on a respectable tire. Perhaps the pavement where I live is rougher on the tires?
Do others have similar experiences with tread life?
To make it clear, this is on a 2006 G35X (AWD).
At this point, I am looking into buying 4 new tires within the next 2-3 weeks so I was hoping for some tips as to what I should look into and help make a short list. I plan to go with another performance all-season tire since I only want to work with a single set of wheels.
I got these from Discount Tire and after talking to them today it looks like I will get $59 back per tire so round it to $240 off of my new purchase which seems somewhat reasonable, but I certainly would prefer more. Unfortunately the labor and tax will add like $140+ to the cost so it will still be north of $400 and this is maybe 1.5 years after I just bought the Conti's.
What tires do you recommend or what has been a similar poor experience in your past that I should avoid?
The tire comes with a 50k mile warranty and I recall reading some people claim they got 60-70k miles so I thought I'd be able to get close to the 50,000 miles before needing new ones. I am not a track driver or do emergency braking or try and get the tires loose when it rains, but I also don't baby the car all the time. At stop lights I am likely a bit harder on the gas than I need to be, but I am also not 24/7 flooring it every chance I can get. Also, I rotated them every 5000 miles and got an alignment done the same week I put on the new rubber. With all that in mind, I could see that I may wear them out a bit quicker, but wouldn't have expected 1/2 the life on a respectable tire. Perhaps the pavement where I live is rougher on the tires?
Do others have similar experiences with tread life?
To make it clear, this is on a 2006 G35X (AWD).
At this point, I am looking into buying 4 new tires within the next 2-3 weeks so I was hoping for some tips as to what I should look into and help make a short list. I plan to go with another performance all-season tire since I only want to work with a single set of wheels.
I got these from Discount Tire and after talking to them today it looks like I will get $59 back per tire so round it to $240 off of my new purchase which seems somewhat reasonable, but I certainly would prefer more. Unfortunately the labor and tax will add like $140+ to the cost so it will still be north of $400 and this is maybe 1.5 years after I just bought the Conti's.
What tires do you recommend or what has been a similar poor experience in your past that I should avoid?
What was the interval between alignment adjustments?? It should DEFINITELY be done once per year at minimum, personally I do one in the spring (after finished chewing my way through snow/ice covered roads) and in the fall (after a fun-filled summer of rodding around those same roads).
Make sure you are actually reading the printout they give you for your alignment specs PARTICULARLY toe, that will destroy tires faster than anything.
Basically that's my fancy way of saying there's a good chance it wasn't the tires fault.
Make sure you are actually reading the printout they give you for your alignment specs PARTICULARLY toe, that will destroy tires faster than anything.
Basically that's my fancy way of saying there's a good chance it wasn't the tires fault.
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From: Longview, TX
So far that was the only alignment, everything has been wearing so evenly from what I can tell and there has been no change in ride that I haven't seen a need to get a 2nd alignment just yet. Perhaps that isn't the smartest move, but I'm pretty sure the dealer says 20k miles anyway so I am not far past that.
When I get the new tires I will certainly be getting a fresh alignment though and can check the printout then (and post if it is indeed way off). Ill have to see if I have the printout still from the alignment 1.5 years ago to check the before and after again.
When I get the new tires I will certainly be getting a fresh alignment though and can check the printout then (and post if it is indeed way off). Ill have to see if I have the printout still from the alignment 1.5 years ago to check the before and after again.
I wouldn't recommend any tire I use because high mileage isn't a consideration when buying tires! I buy performance tires that hold a grip when playing in the canyons and stop when required, tires that won't hydroplane when driving in rain. I've used almost every tire known to man, all but one brand has never let me down...Michelins!
Alignment SoCal streets and highways suck, every year the pot holes get deeper and more frequent. I haven't had my alignment done in 5 years and my Michelins are wearing evenly. I may have it checked once I need new Michelins along with my suspension. If you must have your alignment done frequently, and you still have tires that aren't wearing evenly, you may have suspension parts worn out or alignment isn't being done right...fact!
Gary
Alignment SoCal streets and highways suck, every year the pot holes get deeper and more frequent. I haven't had my alignment done in 5 years and my Michelins are wearing evenly. I may have it checked once I need new Michelins along with my suspension. If you must have your alignment done frequently, and you still have tires that aren't wearing evenly, you may have suspension parts worn out or alignment isn't being done right...fact!

Gary
I wouldn't recommend any tire I use because high mileage isn't a consideration when buying tires! I buy performance tires that hold a grip when playing in the canyons and stop when required, tires that won't hydroplane when driving in rain. I've used almost every tire known to man, all but one brand has never let me down...Michelins!
Alignment SoCal streets and highways suck, every year the pot holes get deeper and more frequent. I haven't had my alignment done in 5 years and my Michelins are wearing evenly. I may have it checked once I need new Michelins along with my suspension. If you must have your alignment done frequently, and you still have tires that aren't wearing evenly, you may have suspension parts worn out or alignment isn't being done right...fact!
Gary
Alignment SoCal streets and highways suck, every year the pot holes get deeper and more frequent. I haven't had my alignment done in 5 years and my Michelins are wearing evenly. I may have it checked once I need new Michelins along with my suspension. If you must have your alignment done frequently, and you still have tires that aren't wearing evenly, you may have suspension parts worn out or alignment isn't being done right...fact!

Gary
What he said
I only buy Michelins!
Got 44k miles on my previous Pilot AS3's set with 4/32 left on them. Replaced them prior to a trip from NJ to Florida. Would have kept them a little longer if not taking a long trip.
I can't rotate them different sizes on front & rear
I buy them at the dealer. Buy three and get the fourth for free
They do a proper alignment, balance, properly program TPMS sensors for each wheel, wash and vacuum, provide a loaner if necessary and everything is perfect when I drive out the door.
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G35 sedan w/ too much money in mods

OP tire opinions are like buttholes, everybody has one and a lot of times they stink. But here's my $.02 and Gary will probably concur since he runs these on his wife's Vette. BF Goodrich makes a phenomenal AS tire in the gForce Comp 2 Sport A/S. In several Tire Rack tests it came in first or second out of 27 A/S UHP tires tested beating tires like Michelin and Continental that cost more than twice as much. They have a 45K mile warranty and are phenomenal, I have a set on my GTO and have never been as happy for the price/performance as I have with these. I roll with stock 17" rims and the tires are around $120 each, here's a link for you to look at. https://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires...ASXL&tab=Sizes
Rarely do I rave about products on here, but these are worth talking about. Several of our members have bought a set after reading my thoughts and they have all been happy with their purchases. So take my opinion with a grain of salt but IMHO they are worth checking out!!
Rarely do I rave about products on here, but these are worth talking about. Several of our members have bought a set after reading my thoughts and they have all been happy with their purchases. So take my opinion with a grain of salt but IMHO they are worth checking out!!
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From: Longview, TX
Thanks for the feedback thus far.
I am not looking at getting 50+ thousand miles out of my tires as the top priority, but certainly I don't want to be tossing $700 every 12 to 18 months either. I suppose I would like them to get 40,000 or last close to 3 years which is about the same as I likely put 13,000 miles a year on the car. This will hopefully be the last set of tires I put on the car since I see myself making a change in 2 years or so.
Top priorities would still be general performance and safety/handling in wet conditions, but I am typically a bang-for-your-buck type of buyer so while I don't want the cheapest thing out there and regret it, I also usually can't justify buying a much higher priced item that is inflated by a brand or something minor. I have a feeling anything Michelin fits into the higher priced category and will be $80+ more than some other decent options. I would need a solid promotion to go with those I guess...
Let me ask this question to help think about things:
Do you guys also get reduced life out of your tires (rated 50k, but got 25k, or similar) and just continuously receive a prorated credit on your new set each time? I am obviously glad that I am at least getting something for the fact that these wore out quicker and maybe that is the game we play with a more performance oriented car. I just need to time it better with promotions to help offset the cost of labor and other add-on charges.
Doing a quick search it looks like I just missed out on a promotion for Continental but there are still some for Cooper, Bridgestone, Hankook, Goodyear, and Vogue (whom I have never heard of). I think I will look into these Vogues a bit more though since they seem interesting and are priced well especially after the rebate.
To clarify for me, any 215/55/17 tire should fit fine if that is what my wheel recommends, correct?
Sometimes when searching by vehicle it doesn't always list the full set of results as when you go by tire size.
I am not looking at getting 50+ thousand miles out of my tires as the top priority, but certainly I don't want to be tossing $700 every 12 to 18 months either. I suppose I would like them to get 40,000 or last close to 3 years which is about the same as I likely put 13,000 miles a year on the car. This will hopefully be the last set of tires I put on the car since I see myself making a change in 2 years or so.
Top priorities would still be general performance and safety/handling in wet conditions, but I am typically a bang-for-your-buck type of buyer so while I don't want the cheapest thing out there and regret it, I also usually can't justify buying a much higher priced item that is inflated by a brand or something minor. I have a feeling anything Michelin fits into the higher priced category and will be $80+ more than some other decent options. I would need a solid promotion to go with those I guess...
Let me ask this question to help think about things:
Do you guys also get reduced life out of your tires (rated 50k, but got 25k, or similar) and just continuously receive a prorated credit on your new set each time? I am obviously glad that I am at least getting something for the fact that these wore out quicker and maybe that is the game we play with a more performance oriented car. I just need to time it better with promotions to help offset the cost of labor and other add-on charges.
Doing a quick search it looks like I just missed out on a promotion for Continental but there are still some for Cooper, Bridgestone, Hankook, Goodyear, and Vogue (whom I have never heard of). I think I will look into these Vogues a bit more though since they seem interesting and are priced well especially after the rebate.
To clarify for me, any 215/55/17 tire should fit fine if that is what my wheel recommends, correct?
Sometimes when searching by vehicle it doesn't always list the full set of results as when you go by tire size.
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Edit! Stock tire size AND stock speed rating! Don't go under the listed speed rating for your vehicle!
Yes any tire of the correct size would fit, there are minor differences in size from one manufacturer to the next but you really only ever notice it if going for a lot of stretch on big rims (cosmetic effect). On 17" rims with stock size rubber it's nearly impossible to tell.
Yes any tire of the correct size would fit, there are minor differences in size from one manufacturer to the next but you really only ever notice it if going for a lot of stretch on big rims (cosmetic effect). On 17" rims with stock size rubber it's nearly impossible to tell.
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From: Longview, TX
I think I may actually give these Vogue tires a try and see if they offer a lot for a good value.
I personally haven't heard of the brand before, but I guess they have been around for over 100 years.
https://www.discounttire.com/buy-tir...ture-v/p/29743
With the rebate and prorated reimbursement I should be looking at $125 + labor + tax, so maybe $230?
I personally haven't heard of the brand before, but I guess they have been around for over 100 years.
https://www.discounttire.com/buy-tir...ture-v/p/29743
With the rebate and prorated reimbursement I should be looking at $125 + labor + tax, so maybe $230?
Ok, so you more than likely got the sport model tires (there are different models of the Conti Extreme Contact), and they have a 30k mile warranty with a 340 treadwear rating. You really can't compare mileage of a tire without it being the same exact car, because the weight of the car, driving style and physics (how the car shifts around during launch/turns) are too many variables.
For this car in particular you need a treadwear rating of at least 400 if you want any decent mileage out of them. Personally, the best tire I've found for longevity and for the money is the Achilles ATR Sport II. You can get a whole set delivered for about ~$450 (that's 4). They're W rated with a 440 treadwear rating and are pretty darn light (much lighter than the ATR Sport I).
I also suggest a lifetime alignment for these cars as you want to stay on top of your toe settings, but also, for how often certain suspension components go out on these cars it's essential that you get it aligned every time you disassemble the suspension.
For this car in particular you need a treadwear rating of at least 400 if you want any decent mileage out of them. Personally, the best tire I've found for longevity and for the money is the Achilles ATR Sport II. You can get a whole set delivered for about ~$450 (that's 4). They're W rated with a 440 treadwear rating and are pretty darn light (much lighter than the ATR Sport I).
I also suggest a lifetime alignment for these cars as you want to stay on top of your toe settings, but also, for how often certain suspension components go out on these cars it's essential that you get it aligned every time you disassemble the suspension.
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My OP listed the specific model and mileage that came with them, DWS with 50k.
They only thing I am not 100% sure on now is I guess there was a minor revision so there is an Extreme Contact DWS and a DWS 06. I'd have to check my papers to see if it mentions the "06" but it isn't much different anyway.
Both are above 500 tread grade according to:
https://www.discounttire.com/buy-tir...ct-dws/p/26273
https://www.discounttire.com/buy-tir...dws-06/p/32204
The Vogues are a 60k mile tire with a rating of only 460. So still above 400, but less than the Conti's...
They only thing I am not 100% sure on now is I guess there was a minor revision so there is an Extreme Contact DWS and a DWS 06. I'd have to check my papers to see if it mentions the "06" but it isn't much different anyway.
Both are above 500 tread grade according to:
https://www.discounttire.com/buy-tir...ct-dws/p/26273
https://www.discounttire.com/buy-tir...dws-06/p/32204
The Vogues are a 60k mile tire with a rating of only 460. So still above 400, but less than the Conti's...
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Got my tires put on yesterday and then went to a Nissan dealer for an alignment.
Apparently some of my suspension parts are rusted to the point that they cant move a bolt or two without breaking it and needing replacement parts so I wasn't able to get a perfect alignment. The worst one out of spec still isn't too far off so I should be fine as long as nothing actual falls apart over time. Car was originally from New York if I remember the Carfax correctly and then a few years in Nebraska before now being down in Texas so I can see where the salt/snow could have done some damage, but now shouldn't be getting any worse.
The Vogues seem fine for the little bit I drove so far, we will have to see how rain handling is. I think it was worth saving the $80 to $120+ over a premium brand.
Apparently some of my suspension parts are rusted to the point that they cant move a bolt or two without breaking it and needing replacement parts so I wasn't able to get a perfect alignment. The worst one out of spec still isn't too far off so I should be fine as long as nothing actual falls apart over time. Car was originally from New York if I remember the Carfax correctly and then a few years in Nebraska before now being down in Texas so I can see where the salt/snow could have done some damage, but now shouldn't be getting any worse.
The Vogues seem fine for the little bit I drove so far, we will have to see how rain handling is. I think it was worth saving the $80 to $120+ over a premium brand.
You made a mistake going to the dealership for alignment! A quality independent alignment shop would have heated those bolts/shot them with WD40 to get you a correct alignment. I suggest you find that shop in your area, every town has at least one! If not you'll be going thru those new tires far sooner than expected.
Gary
Gary
Yeah I've never seen a dealership use penetrating oil and MAPP gas to remove stubborn fasteners but it's a trick nearly all the independent shops use. Only takes a second too, shoot with MAPP, shoot with penetrating oil, done.






