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Old Feb 21, 2006 | 12:33 AM
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19"/20" stagger or 20" throughout on DPE GT7 (& Qs on tires) <sponsors plz quote>

Hey guys, now it's the time that I'd really need you guys' help.

Question regarding DPE wheel widths:
Are the width sizing on the DPE website the only width-sizing avaliable for each size? In other words, is the pricing chart a complete representation on the different widths offered by DPE?

That question aside, I've been digging on the DPE GT7 wheels for a while now, and I decided that I'd go for it. Here's the 2 possibilities that I've came up with, and it'll be great if some sponsors can quote me on each.

1.
DPE GT7 19*8f | 20 * 10r (in titanium asphalt)
In this case, i'd run Toyo T1R 245/35f and 285/30r to remain closest to stock outer diameter. But I'm wondering about how this staggered setup would look and perform.

2.
DPE GT7 20 * 8.5f | 20 * 10r (in titanium asphalt)
In this case, i'd run Toyo T1R 245/30f and 285/30r. The logic I thought of behind this is that (and experts please comment on my logic) this way I will have a slightly small outer diameter for the front which will result in less chance of rubbing. I thought of this because I'm lowered on H&R springs (approx 1.2"/1.0") and the front will seem to rub if I went with wider tires just by eye-balling.
Will there be an offset that will ensure preventation from rubbing?
I'm personally more leaning towards this setup.

Quotes for each scenario (or your suggestion) shipped to Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada (including Canadian import tax will be even more helpful) will be very much appreciated.

Thanks so much


P.S: I've also included a pix of my car after lowering and alignment to show how close the front is from rubbing if I went with wider tires, hence the reason I'm leaning towards a small outer diameter front.
 
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Old Feb 21, 2006 | 09:26 AM
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I'm curious as well. I emailed James @ Creative a while ago to see if DPEs were available in wider than 20x10s and never got a response. I didn't know Toyo T1Rs were available in 285/30/20s.

For the 20s setup, I'd go 245/35s and 285/30s. They're closer in ratio to each other. Your right about going with 245s, other than Falken GRBs, I'd be worried that 255s would rub in the front. You should be ok in the rear if your offsets are are'nt too low.

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Old Feb 21, 2006 | 09:28 AM
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I am running Nitto Extremes and love them. 245/35/20 and 275/30/20 on my DPE's
 
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Old Feb 21, 2006 | 10:47 AM
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Originally Posted by BrianlG35C

For the 20s setup, I'd go 245/35s and 285/30s. They're closer in ratio to each other. Your right about going with 245s, other than Falken GRBs, I'd be worried that 255s would rub in the front. You should be ok in the rear if your offsets are are'nt too low.
But if i go 245/35/20, then the outer diameter will be 26.75 inches. Stock is 26.09 only. And this will make it even more prone to rubbing, no?

ex240, y did you decide to go with 245/35 as well on 20s?
 
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Old Feb 21, 2006 | 12:21 PM
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Originally Posted by haze
But if i go 245/35/20, then the outer diameter will be 26.75 inches. Stock is 26.09 only. And this will make it even more prone to rubbing, no?

ex240, y did you decide to go with 245/35 as well on 20s?
I went even wider with 255/35s in the front. Sometimes I can rub if I'm taking a very tight slow turn in a parking lot situation but never while driving at speed. But again this is with Falken GRBs which I was told wasn't as wide as other 255/35s. So that's why I'm saying 245/35s.
 
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Old Feb 21, 2006 | 05:53 PM
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LoL, I wanted to go 19" in Front and 20" in Rear as well, because I thought 19's would be too small in the rear.
 
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Old Feb 21, 2006 | 06:40 PM
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Originally Posted by BrianlG35C
I went even wider with 255/35s in the front. Sometimes I can rub if I'm taking a very tight slow turn in a parking lot situation but never while driving at speed. But again this is with Falken GRBs which I was told wasn't as wide as other 255/35s. So that's why I'm saying 245/35s.
Actually, what I meant was why go with 245/35 when you can go with 245/30 and be closer to stock outer diameter?
 
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Old Feb 21, 2006 | 08:16 PM
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I am also waiting for rims and I went with 245/35/20 and 275/30/20. Is this setup not good??? Toyos proxys T1r's are my tires??
 
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Old Feb 22, 2006 | 01:20 PM
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werx for me on my 05 6mt... Tein springs 1.6f 1.1r
 
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Old Feb 22, 2006 | 05:21 PM
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Originally Posted by haze
Actually, what I meant was why go with 245/35 when you can go with 245/30 and be closer to stock outer diameter?
What I understand from wheel experts, is you want to go as close a ratio from the front to the rear tires as possible. 245/35=26.75 & 245/30=25.79 and 285/30=26.73, so 245/35s are closest to 285/30s.
 
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Old Feb 23, 2006 | 07:39 PM
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so from what i understand, it would be wise to offset the OEM front outer-diameter of 26.09 and make it as close to the OEM rear outer-diameter as possible? Am I understanding this correctly?

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Old Feb 23, 2006 | 07:59 PM
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no if you make the front and rear the same diameter it could throw the ABS and VCD off since the wheels will be spining at different rates from stock. Ideally you would want the same diameters as stock so the front is smaller then the rear. Best combination is 255/35/19 and 285/30/20 which is about dead on stock dimensions (front 26.03" / rear 26.74" vs. stock front 25.98" / stock rear 26.69").
 
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Old Feb 24, 2006 | 01:13 PM
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Originally Posted by haze
Hey guys, now it's the time that I'd really need you guys' help.

Question regarding DPE wheel widths:
Are the width sizing on the DPE website the only width-sizing avaliable for each size? In other words, is the pricing chart a complete representation on the different widths offered by DPE?

That question aside, I've been digging on the DPE GT7 wheels for a while now, and I decided that I'd go for it. Here's the 2 possibilities that I've came up with, and it'll be great if some sponsors can quote me on each.

1.
DPE GT7 19*8f | 20 * 10r (in titanium asphalt)
In this case, i'd run Toyo T1R 245/35f and 285/30r to remain closest to stock outer diameter. But I'm wondering about how this staggered setup would look and perform.

2.
DPE GT7 20 * 8.5f | 20 * 10r (in titanium asphalt)
In this case, i'd run Toyo T1R 245/30f and 285/30r. The logic I thought of behind this is that (and experts please comment on my logic) this way I will have a slightly small outer diameter for the front which will result in less chance of rubbing. I thought of this because I'm lowered on H&R springs (approx 1.2"/1.0") and the front will seem to rub if I went with wider tires just by eye-balling.
Will there be an offset that will ensure preventation from rubbing?
I'm personally more leaning towards this setup.

Quotes for each scenario (or your suggestion) shipped to Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada (including Canadian import tax will be even more helpful) will be very much appreciated.

Thanks so much


P.S: I've also included a pix of my car after lowering and alignment to show how close the front is from rubbing if I went with wider tires, hence the reason I'm leaning towards a small outer diameter front.

THE DPE 19x9 is actually available now, so if you would like, I would suggest the 19x9 and 20x10 set if you want to do a staggered set. As for custom width, we would have you charge you about $300 a wheel to have the barrells cut and rewelded to make custom sizes, we have done it before but it really doesnt become very cost effective. On the 19x9 i would run either a 245/35 19 or a 255/35 19 from toyo.

Your concern of rubbing with a wider tire really depends on the offset of the wheels, you could be running a 19x7 with an aggressive offset that is flush with your fender, and a 19x9 could sit just as flush with the correct offset.

DPE's are made here in the US, therefore whenever we ship to canada, we just submit a cerfiticate stating the product is made here in the US, and no duties theres, just extra shipping fee's. Give me a call and we'll talk prices.

James
 
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Old Feb 24, 2006 | 02:03 PM
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Originally Posted by CreativeAutoworks
THE DPE 19x9 is actually available now, so if you would like, I would suggest the 19x9 and 20x10 set if you want to do a staggered set. As for custom width, we would have you charge you about $300 a wheel to have the barrells cut and rewelded to make custom sizes, we have done it before but it really doesnt become very cost effective. James
Ok James to confirm, DPE doesn't make 20s any wider than 10"?
 
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Old Feb 26, 2006 | 04:13 AM
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James,
What is the "step lip" term mean in DPE's website?
And does DPE have 20" in 9"?
 
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