Should my 500/1 and 12w7 be slamming?
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You need a new ported box built for the airspace of your trunk and the speaker you are using, and a bigger amp for sure
500 watts isn't enough, you should get a 1000 watt amp for that speaker at least (just sell the 500 watt amp and use the money from that towards your new one)
And the box is seriously the most important thing, my friend who owns a shop builds the best boxes in town where I live and he always says he could build you a box and you could put a swap meet sub inside it and it will still bump lol
Also I would recommend sound dampening in your trunk and trunk lid, it will clean the bass sound up a lot for not that much money and make a huge difference
Good luck with everything!![Big Grin](https://g35driver.com/forums/images/smilies/biggrin.gif)
I was just wondering also, you said you installed front component speakers and that your bose amp is all bypassed now like it should be, but I was wondering what amp you are using to push your door speakers and your rear coaxils?
500 watts isn't enough, you should get a 1000 watt amp for that speaker at least (just sell the 500 watt amp and use the money from that towards your new one)
And the box is seriously the most important thing, my friend who owns a shop builds the best boxes in town where I live and he always says he could build you a box and you could put a swap meet sub inside it and it will still bump lol
Also I would recommend sound dampening in your trunk and trunk lid, it will clean the bass sound up a lot for not that much money and make a huge difference
Good luck with everything!
![Big Grin](https://g35driver.com/forums/images/smilies/biggrin.gif)
I was just wondering also, you said you installed front component speakers and that your bose amp is all bypassed now like it should be, but I was wondering what amp you are using to push your door speakers and your rear coaxils?
Last edited by AAClaire420; 01-28-2008 at 01:00 PM.
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Originally Posted by AAClaire420
You need a new ported box built for the airspace of your trunk and the speaker you are using, and a bigger amp for sure
500 watts isn't enough, you should get a 1000 watt amp for that speaker at least (just sell the 500 watt amp and use the money from that towards your new one)
And the box is seriously the most important thing, my friend who owns a shop builds the best boxes in town where I live and he always says he could build you a box and you could put a swap meet sub inside it and it will still bump lol
Also I would recommend sound dampening in your trunk and trunk lid, it will clean the bass sound up a lot for not that much money and make a huge difference
Good luck with everything!![Big Grin](https://g35driver.com/forums/images/smilies/biggrin.gif)
I was just wondering also, you said you installed front component speakers and that your bose amp is all bypassed now like it should be, but I was wondering what amp you are using to push your door speakers and your rear coaxils?
500 watts isn't enough, you should get a 1000 watt amp for that speaker at least (just sell the 500 watt amp and use the money from that towards your new one)
And the box is seriously the most important thing, my friend who owns a shop builds the best boxes in town where I live and he always says he could build you a box and you could put a swap meet sub inside it and it will still bump lol
Also I would recommend sound dampening in your trunk and trunk lid, it will clean the bass sound up a lot for not that much money and make a huge difference
Good luck with everything!
![Big Grin](https://g35driver.com/forums/images/smilies/biggrin.gif)
I was just wondering also, you said you installed front component speakers and that your bose amp is all bypassed now like it should be, but I was wondering what amp you are using to push your door speakers and your rear coaxils?
I'm using a v series alpine 4 channel amp for my door speakers. Nothing fancy but does the job.
As for the dampening....I have 1 layer of edead in the entire trunk and decklid. Maybe I should add another layer? Hmmmm.....
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I am one lucky *****! I looked on ebay last night looking for a box for my 12W7. I entered "12W7 box" in the search field. And it was like entering a request to my ferry godmother because WALLA!!!! There it was. A used 12W7 High Output box for $130....and being sold 10 miles from where I live. I'm meeting the guy in 2 hours and buying the box. Hopefully this makes the difference in sound that I was initially expecting. If not, I'm going with plan B...sell the 500/1 and using that $$$ to buy the 1000/1. As Damon Waynes used to say on In Living Color....Mo money! Mo money! Mo money! Too bad I'm spending it and not making it!
![Big Grin](https://g35driver.com/forums/images/smilies/biggrin.gif)
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Good... You had two problems. The box and the amp.
JL recommends the 1000/1 for the 12W7. The 500/1 will be inefficient in fully utilizing the potential of the 12W7 and you increase the chances of clipping at the top end.
The ghetto box needs to be scrapped with a better built box with better materials and the correct air volume. Along with internal dimensions you also have to subtract the volume that the sub will take up inside the box.
I'm pushing a 10W7 with the 500/1 and I can feel a breeze at the back of my head when I turn up the bass from my rear deck grills.
JL recommends the 1000/1 for the 12W7. The 500/1 will be inefficient in fully utilizing the potential of the 12W7 and you increase the chances of clipping at the top end.
The ghetto box needs to be scrapped with a better built box with better materials and the correct air volume. Along with internal dimensions you also have to subtract the volume that the sub will take up inside the box.
I'm pushing a 10W7 with the 500/1 and I can feel a breeze at the back of my head when I turn up the bass from my rear deck grills.
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Originally Posted by hurricanebsball
I am one lucky *****! I looked on ebay last night looking for a box for my 12W7. I entered "12W7 box" in the search field. And it was like entering a request to my ferry godmother because WALLA!!!! There it was. A used 12W7 High Output box for $130....and being sold 10 miles from where I live. I'm meeting the guy in 2 hours and buying the box. Hopefully this makes the difference in sound that I was initially expecting. If not, I'm going with plan B...sell the 500/1 and using that $$$ to buy the 1000/1. As Damon Waynes used to say on In Living Color....Mo money! Mo money! Mo money! Too bad I'm spending it and not making it! ![Big Grin](https://g35driver.com/forums/images/smilies/biggrin.gif)
![Big Grin](https://g35driver.com/forums/images/smilies/biggrin.gif)
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Originally Posted by redlude97
$130 for a box? Whats so special about it?
I don't know if the box is "special". But it's the box that JL "recommends" with their W7 series...from what I understand. It is the box that is black on the outside and has the red carpet on the inside. Kind of looks a messed up eye with redeye!
![Big Grin](https://g35driver.com/forums/images/smilies/biggrin.gif)
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Originally Posted by hurricanebsball
-I have the Kenwood DNX7100.
-My 500/1 is receiving the signal through the remote wire and is not hooked through the bose amp at all. Bose amp is completely disconnected and in a box locked away hopefully for good!! (I put Infinity 6.5 perfects in the front and some cheap pioneers in the back....thanks for the advise on going cheap Gilley!)
-The sub is a 12W7 that I do believe is a dual voice coil(not sure though) but seemed simple enough hooking up because in there is only 1 + and 1 - on the sub.
So I just hooked up positive to the positive and neg to the neg. Should I have done anything different?
Thanks for probing guys to help me find the answer. It really is irritating to have done such a big audio overhaul and not have the bass hitting how I thought it would.
-My 500/1 is receiving the signal through the remote wire and is not hooked through the bose amp at all. Bose amp is completely disconnected and in a box locked away hopefully for good!! (I put Infinity 6.5 perfects in the front and some cheap pioneers in the back....thanks for the advise on going cheap Gilley!)
-The sub is a 12W7 that I do believe is a dual voice coil(not sure though) but seemed simple enough hooking up because in there is only 1 + and 1 - on the sub.
So I just hooked up positive to the positive and neg to the neg. Should I have done anything different?
Thanks for probing guys to help me find the answer. It really is irritating to have done such a big audio overhaul and not have the bass hitting how I thought it would.
Originally Posted by hurricanebsball
First of all...it was DEFINITELY the box. Put the sub in the high output box and BAM!...it sounds sweeeeet.
I don't know if the box is "special". But it's the box that JL "recommends" with their W7 series...from what I understand. It is the box that is black on the outside and has the red carpet on the inside. Kind of looks a messed up eye with redeye!![Big Grin](https://g35driver.com/forums/images/smilies/biggrin.gif)
I don't know if the box is "special". But it's the box that JL "recommends" with their W7 series...from what I understand. It is the box that is black on the outside and has the red carpet on the inside. Kind of looks a messed up eye with redeye!
![Big Grin](https://g35driver.com/forums/images/smilies/biggrin.gif)
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ok now you have me wondering too... i have a 10w7 with a 500/1 in a sealed box... I was expecting it to hit a lot harder than it is...
if i give you guys the dimension to my box, could you tell me if its my box? I really would hate to spend money on another box, but if the size is too big, can i buy the polyfill (stuff from the pillows) and stuff it to decrease airspace? Will that do? Or do i definetly need a new box? My gains and everything is set properly. I've used the method JL recommended, with a voltmeter and all...
actually i found another thread... my box is very similar to this one:
https://g35driver.com/forums/showthr...highlight=10w7
i am not at home to measure it, but i think thats pretty similar to what i got.
if i give you guys the dimension to my box, could you tell me if its my box? I really would hate to spend money on another box, but if the size is too big, can i buy the polyfill (stuff from the pillows) and stuff it to decrease airspace? Will that do? Or do i definetly need a new box? My gains and everything is set properly. I've used the method JL recommended, with a voltmeter and all...
actually i found another thread... my box is very similar to this one:
https://g35driver.com/forums/showthr...highlight=10w7
i am not at home to measure it, but i think thats pretty similar to what i got.
Last edited by nyckid; 04-03-2008 at 03:15 PM.
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