Air Suspension Questions
#62
I remember reading about condensation and draining the compressors in regards to air suspensions. Can't remember where I read it, but do you know anything about this? Something along the lines of the compressors causing condensation and that you need to drain it every so often.
#63
Also we run a single conv. air spring which will naturally have a higher spring rate then a sleeve, or a double conv.
As far as the system goes, our standard system runs 2150 forum discount with 2 viair 480 compressors, chromed aluminum air tank, 1/2" lines/fittings/electric valves, hand held switch box.
AR's standard system runs 1 small compressor, steel tank, 1/4" lines, manual valves and nice looking strut assemblies.
now they do have the option to upgrade to the electric valves and 3/8" hose, but of course its more $$
Generally speaking, your able to purchase our full system(2150), digital gauge upgrade(370), a set of decent coilovers(aprox 1000-1500), and pay for the install(we charge $1000) for aprox 4500-5000.
A typical AR setup (4293) with upgrade to electric valves (740) is aprox 5000
I will be the first to admit, AR has a very nice looking strut assembly. I am not knocking thier product. But, also keep in mind if you ever need servicing or replacement parts you have to go through them...
For us, we are able to keep our costs down by using the same bag in over 400 different applications. So that means that we don't have to custom build 100 sets or something along those lines inorder to offer an application. So, because our bags costs are down, we go "high end" on the rest of our components like the tanks/valves/fittings/compressors etc, because we can
#64
instead of draining the tank. which is going to be a pain in the *** since you would pretty much have to take the tank out of the truck or put a little bucket under the tank when draining. you could get water traps. which run in line between the compressor and the tank. this will keep damn near all of the water out of the tank. when i build bagged trucks i run 1 water trap per compressor. and the owners have to drain the tank maybe once a year.
#65
the package that zack is offering here is a VERY good package. viair 480 compressors are in my opinion the best compressors you can get. and especially with 2 of them. you will have very fast fill times. also they are 100% duty cycle so they can be on a lot of you get switch happy. also lance the guy that pretty much runs viair is a very cool guy and if for any reason (which you probably never will) lance is very helpful with hooking people up when they need it.
zack i hope you do not mind that i keep chimin in on your thread. im just trying to help out. if you want me to stop just let me know. no offense will be takin
zack i hope you do not mind that i keep chimin in on your thread. im just trying to help out. if you want me to stop just let me know. no offense will be takin
#66
Biggest differences are that air runner is sealed to a strut, where as we are not. So with our system your not limited by your shock choice. Your able to switch any damper that you choose. Also down the road when your dampers wear out, you can simply swap them out.
Also we run a single conv. air spring which will naturally have a higher spring rate then a sleeve, or a double conv.
As far as the system goes, our standard system runs 2150 forum discount with 2 viair 480 compressors, chromed aluminum air tank, 1/2" lines/fittings/electric valves, hand held switch box.
AR's standard system runs 1 small compressor, steel tank, 1/4" lines, manual valves and nice looking strut assemblies.
now they do have the option to upgrade to the electric valves and 3/8" hose, but of course its more $$
Generally speaking, your able to purchase our full system(2150), digital gauge upgrade(370), a set of decent coilovers(aprox 1000-1500), and pay for the install(we charge $1000) for aprox 4500-5000.
A typical AR setup (4293) with upgrade to electric valves (740) is aprox 5000
I will be the first to admit, AR has a very nice looking strut assembly. I am not knocking thier product. But, also keep in mind if you ever need servicing or replacement parts you have to go through them...
For us, we are able to keep our costs down by using the same bag in over 400 different applications. So that means that we don't have to custom build 100 sets or something along those lines inorder to offer an application. So, because our bags costs are down, we go "high end" on the rest of our components like the tanks/valves/fittings/compressors etc, because we can
Also we run a single conv. air spring which will naturally have a higher spring rate then a sleeve, or a double conv.
As far as the system goes, our standard system runs 2150 forum discount with 2 viair 480 compressors, chromed aluminum air tank, 1/2" lines/fittings/electric valves, hand held switch box.
AR's standard system runs 1 small compressor, steel tank, 1/4" lines, manual valves and nice looking strut assemblies.
now they do have the option to upgrade to the electric valves and 3/8" hose, but of course its more $$
Generally speaking, your able to purchase our full system(2150), digital gauge upgrade(370), a set of decent coilovers(aprox 1000-1500), and pay for the install(we charge $1000) for aprox 4500-5000.
A typical AR setup (4293) with upgrade to electric valves (740) is aprox 5000
I will be the first to admit, AR has a very nice looking strut assembly. I am not knocking thier product. But, also keep in mind if you ever need servicing or replacement parts you have to go through them...
For us, we are able to keep our costs down by using the same bag in over 400 different applications. So that means that we don't have to custom build 100 sets or something along those lines inorder to offer an application. So, because our bags costs are down, we go "high end" on the rest of our components like the tanks/valves/fittings/compressors etc, because we can
#67
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To be honest all you really would need is some D-specs and save the $400+ if you were to get coils. You will basically replace your springs witht he bags. Also you might even be able to contact one of these coilover companies (Tein, BC, Megan, ETC.) and see if they will sell you just the struts alone.
#69
yes you can raise and lower the car while moving. but it is not legal.
the laws say that air ride is for off road use. but a cop (unless he is a *****) is not going to hasle you for airing up in a parking lot to be able to drive off from your parking spot. and if you want to play it safe. you can run a switch inline with the power wire that goes to the switch box so that you can turn the switch box off just incase you do get pulled over. and then you can say look officer i was not playing with them they do not even work with the car on
the laws say that air ride is for off road use. but a cop (unless he is a *****) is not going to hasle you for airing up in a parking lot to be able to drive off from your parking spot. and if you want to play it safe. you can run a switch inline with the power wire that goes to the switch box so that you can turn the switch box off just incase you do get pulled over. and then you can say look officer i was not playing with them they do not even work with the car on
#70
#71
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I meant moving really slow before a driveway or speed bump, not while on the freeway or something, lol. Just wanted to make sure that when you're approaching a steep driveway or bump, that you don't have to completely stop, raise the car, move forward, stop, lower the car back down. These are very tempting to get sometime in the future. Thanks for the info
#72
#73
I remember reading about condensation and draining the compressors in regards to air suspensions. Can't remember where I read it, but do you know anything about this? Something along the lines of the compressors causing condensation and that you need to drain it every so often.
At this point for the most part it is not a problem as long as good piping layout is followed. It becomes a problem when the pressure is released. This is one reason not to use compressed air to dust off sensitive parts since you can be dusting using ice crystals. You can add a fairly small dryer on the outlet of the storage tank but most are satisfied with just living with it. If
concerned one could put a solinoid operated drain valve that operated every few minutes/hours depending on need.
#74
#75
i want these! any good place in NJ with REASONABLE prices? or is this something i can do if i could install coilsover, im good with wiring, and im pretty sure i can put the fittings together as im not a complete retard when it comes to mechanics lol. Can an intermediate/novice person do this in a day/weekend?