Air Suspension Questions
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#77
i want these! any good place in NJ with REASONABLE prices? or is this something i can do if i could install coilsover, im good with wiring, and im pretty sure i can put the fittings together as im not a complete retard when it comes to mechanics lol. Can an intermediate/novice person do this in a day/weekend?
#78
you can set it up in the trunk however you want. you can mount the tank and compressor all the way in the back which would give you the most room. or you could mount the compressors on the sides of the trunk and the tank towards the seats. it doesnt matter.
#79
Another fairly simple system for mobile air systems relies on keeping the water from causing issues as much as removal and those employ a relatively small alcohol reservoir.
#80
#81
A lot less wires would be 4 less wires. Simply vent the air via the starter circuit. The water goes to the same place without issue that the AC condensate goes to. Start your car and your tanks are burbed and you are good to go.
#85
instead of draining the tank. which is going to be a pain in the *** since you would pretty much have to take the tank out of the truck or put a little bucket under the tank when draining. you could get water traps. which run in line between the compressor and the tank. this will keep damn near all of the water out of the tank. when i build bagged trucks i run 1 water trap per compressor. and the owners have to drain the tank maybe once a year.
Or, you can run another valve plumbed off the bottom of the tank and "purge" it ever once and while to blow any water out.
Personally I am not a fan of water traps because its only a band aid on a gun shot wound. In order to remove the water from the air, you have to cool the air down first. Then pass it through a trap/filter to condense it. So no matter what you’re going to get water in your tank because in a car application you can't really put a ref. dryer like they run for your standard industrial application. Will it collect some water, yes... But its not going to be all of the water, so in my option its always best to make the system handle the water. Not to mention, if the customer forgets to drain the trap, then its just passing through it...
the package that zack is offering here is a VERY good package. viair 480 compressors are in my opinion the best compressors you can get. and especially with 2 of them. you will have very fast fill times. also they are 100% duty cycle so they can be on a lot of you get switch happy. also lance the guy that pretty much runs viair is a very cool guy and if for any reason (which you probably never will) lance is very helpful with hooking people up when they need it.
zack i hope you do not mind that i keep chimin in on your thread. im just trying to help out. if you want me to stop just let me know. no offense will be takin
zack i hope you do not mind that i keep chimin in on your thread. im just trying to help out. if you want me to stop just let me know. no offense will be takin
Thanks for the wealth of information and being honest about both systems. Why would one choose to run coilovers instead of just regular shocks? Wouldn't it be a little redundant to have the ability to adjust the ride height with coils when you already have bags? Sorry for all the questions. Trying to learn as much as I can because this will probably be my next big purchase, but not for a while.
yes you can raise and lower the car while moving. but it is not legal.
the laws say that air ride is for off road use. but a cop (unless he is a *****) is not going to hasle you for airing up in a parking lot to be able to drive off from your parking spot. and if you want to play it safe. you can run a switch inline with the power wire that goes to the switch box so that you can turn the switch box off just incase you do get pulled over. and then you can say look officer i was not playing with them they do not even work with the car on
the laws say that air ride is for off road use. but a cop (unless he is a *****) is not going to hasle you for airing up in a parking lot to be able to drive off from your parking spot. and if you want to play it safe. you can run a switch inline with the power wire that goes to the switch box so that you can turn the switch box off just incase you do get pulled over. and then you can say look officer i was not playing with them they do not even work with the car on
There are codes for "modified suspension, unsafe vehicles, too low" etc. So technically it’s illegal to put a set of aftermarket struts, lowering coils, even changing the wheels to any part that is not on there from the OEM. But, if you’re driving down the local spot, hitting switches while driving down the road, don’t be surprised when he writes you up. But, if you’re acting like a “reasonable” adult, they won’t even be able to tell that the car is on air.
I personally have had a few friends (mainly back in truck days with big ole holes cut out) that have been caught and have received these tickets. One of them was written up for hydraulics, went in and saw the judge, and he simply said “I don’t have hydraulics; I have air suspension, just like the factory Mercedes, Lincolns etc”. The judge asked him “what the difference is”. He said, “Hydraulics, you have flammable fluid running through at extremely high pressure that if a line brakes, it goes everywhere, not to mention the extra 1000 lbs in the trunk for the batteries to run the system. I have a small air compressor that fills the bags up to about the same pressure as a lot of tires run at, and if I was to have a damaged line, it would leak out air, not fluid to ruin the environment” With that, the judge dismissed his ticket
Another friend received a ticked for driving too low. He took his fix-it ticket down to the police station, aired the truck up, and said now its not too low… Ticket signed off…
So to make a long enough story already short. If they want to, they will give you a ticket, because they can.
i want these! any good place in NJ with REASONABLE prices? or is this something i can do if i could install coilover, i'm good with wiring, and im pretty sure i can put the fittings together as im not a complete retard when it comes to mechanics lol. Can an intermediate/novice person do this in a day/weekend?
I usually say, if you can install a set of lowering springs, and wire up a car stereo amp, you can do the install. Question of the day… If you take it to a shop, and they haven’t done any air before, what is the difference between them learning on your car, and you learning on your car? But, honestly on the G35/350z platform it’s really simple on the install. Personally I went down to Nicaragua and did an install down there in a full day.
#86
ill tell you what i tell everyone that is bagging something. do not try and do it quickly. make it clean and sleek the first time around. take a whole day to run all the electrical for them and als the air management. meaning the tank, compressor, airline and valves. then the next day you can simply just pop in the bags and hook the airline up to it.
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I have a few questions as well:
1. Since it's "Universal" air suspension, I should be able to take this same system and use it on my next vehicle, correct? You mentioned that the Z/G platform was different so I just want to clarify this.
2. What are the things that could possibly go wrong with this set up. I say this for those of us who may purchased a pre-owned system not knowing how it was used before. Any ways to check for abuse?
3. For members who have/had this set up, could you post them up so we can see how they were mounted (Shane, Waijai, etc).
I'm also going to assume from those pics that the system comes with pretty braided lines
1. Since it's "Universal" air suspension, I should be able to take this same system and use it on my next vehicle, correct? You mentioned that the Z/G platform was different so I just want to clarify this.
2. What are the things that could possibly go wrong with this set up. I say this for those of us who may purchased a pre-owned system not knowing how it was used before. Any ways to check for abuse?
3. For members who have/had this set up, could you post them up so we can see how they were mounted (Shane, Waijai, etc).
I'm also going to assume from those pics that the system comes with pretty braided lines
#88
I have a few questions as well:
1. Since it's "Universal" air suspension, I should be able to take this same system and use it on my next vehicle, correct? You mentioned that the Z/G platform was different so I just want to clarify this.
2. What are the things that could possibly go wrong with this set up. I say this for those of us who may purchased a pre-owned system not knowing how it was used before. Any ways to check for abuse?
3. For members who have/had this set up, could you post them up so we can see how they were mounted (Shane, Waijai, etc).
I'm also going to assume from those pics that the system comes with pretty braided lines
1. Since it's "Universal" air suspension, I should be able to take this same system and use it on my next vehicle, correct? You mentioned that the Z/G platform was different so I just want to clarify this.
2. What are the things that could possibly go wrong with this set up. I say this for those of us who may purchased a pre-owned system not knowing how it was used before. Any ways to check for abuse?
3. For members who have/had this set up, could you post them up so we can see how they were mounted (Shane, Waijai, etc).
I'm also going to assume from those pics that the system comes with pretty braided lines
1. the G & Z's are generally the same, however we do some slight different backets depending on the exact car and which damper the customer is going to use.
2. Generally speaking, usually the compressors will wear out after about a year and half to 2 years for someone that beats on them pretty good. As far as being able to "tell" you can look the front of the compressor behind the air filter and see the date code printed on the pump. It goes year/month of production. Usually its about 1-3 months from the time of manufacture, to the date we ship them out. Next thing to check is on the bags, make sure there is no abrasion marks from rubbing against something.
3. Z's - http://www.universalairsuspension.com/on-road/gallery.php?sid=9&cid=11
G35 - http://www.universalairsuspension.co...?sid=61&cid=28
G37 - http://www.universalairsuspension.co...sid=153&cid=28
The "pretty" lines are the leader hoses that comes in the compressors
#89
xjonmo, I'll try and answer your first question and I'm sure Zack will clarify if I'm incorrect. The way in which the bags for the G/Z differ from other setups is that it uses the bag in the rear on the spring mount, whereas many others use it on the shock itself, however with our cars we cannot do that since the wheel well obstructs the area for the bag.
All other components would be just fine and you could swap, you would just need to get different bags (ones that fit the particular vehicle you get).
All other components would be just fine and you could swap, you would just need to get different bags (ones that fit the particular vehicle you get).