My SPC A-Arm installation
There was a thread i saw maybe a week or 2 ago, about having to mod the top of the fender because the SPC, and SPL arms would hit the top. i looked at the top of mine, and i see what they were talking about, but my arms cleared...
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I'm dropped on 350Z S-Techs, which is over an inch. I don't hit or scrub or hear any noise and I'm running 20x9 and 20x10.5 with 255/30 and 285/30 tires. It's amazing to me that you guys are having issues. My install was easy and I have had no problems or noises.
For you guys that hit, Jack up the front and see if you can see where it is hitting the body. Post up, with pictures if possible, where you are hitting and what is hitting. There is a possibility that it isn't the A-arm, but something else hitting because of the drop. That will help diagnose any issues.
Richboy, I was half kidding with my last post. You could be so low that any a-arm (or another part because of the drop) will hit. Look under there and see where it is hitting.
For you guys that hit, Jack up the front and see if you can see where it is hitting the body. Post up, with pictures if possible, where you are hitting and what is hitting. There is a possibility that it isn't the A-arm, but something else hitting because of the drop. That will help diagnose any issues.
Richboy, I was half kidding with my last post. You could be so low that any a-arm (or another part because of the drop) will hit. Look under there and see where it is hitting.
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Originally Posted by Gilley
It's amazing to me that you guys are having issues. My install was easy and I have had no problems or noises.
Originally Posted by mark4x4
I'm dropped almost 1" and I'm having the issue with the arms hitting when I hit a bump. I don't feel a 1'" drop is that significant where I should be having this problem. You get a camber kit because you are dropped and what good is it to have tons of positive camber adjustment if your arms are going to hit the fender walls.
Sean, since you didn't install the spacers are you having any issues with the arms hitting the fender walls? My thought is to take out the spacers hoping that I can get it back into spec although I can see any reason why the spacers would cause this problem.
Hindsight, I should have gotten the SPL's but I just want to move forward. It's really irritating to hit a bump and the sound just resonates throughout the car. I hope SPC has a fix for this otherwise, I will be one unhappy camper.
I will talk to Peter asap and let him know of my displeasure and also call SPC as well.
Mark
Sean, since you didn't install the spacers are you having any issues with the arms hitting the fender walls? My thought is to take out the spacers hoping that I can get it back into spec although I can see any reason why the spacers would cause this problem.
Hindsight, I should have gotten the SPL's but I just want to move forward. It's really irritating to hit a bump and the sound just resonates throughout the car. I hope SPC has a fix for this otherwise, I will be one unhappy camper.
I will talk to Peter asap and let him know of my displeasure and also call SPC as well.
Mark
Originally Posted by Gilley
I'm dropped on 350Z S-Techs, which is over an inch. I don't hit or scrub or hear any noise and I'm running 20x9 and 20x10.5 with 255/30 and 285/30 tires. It's amazing to me that you guys are having issues. My install was easy and I have had no problems or noises.
For you guys that hit, Jack up the front and see if you can see where it is hitting the body. Post up, with pictures if possible, where you are hitting and what is hitting. There is a possibility that it isn't the A-arm, but something else hitting because of the drop. That will help diagnose any issues.
Richboy, I was half kidding with my last post. You could be so low that any a-arm (or another part because of the drop) will hit. Look under there and see where it is hitting.
For you guys that hit, Jack up the front and see if you can see where it is hitting the body. Post up, with pictures if possible, where you are hitting and what is hitting. There is a possibility that it isn't the A-arm, but something else hitting because of the drop. That will help diagnose any issues.
Richboy, I was half kidding with my last post. You could be so low that any a-arm (or another part because of the drop) will hit. Look under there and see where it is hitting.
Originally Posted by Gilley
What part of the cobtrol arm is hitting? The arm, top nut, the end of the outer end?
The top nut is pretty flushed.
the more your dropped the more of that end is exposed causing clearance problems with the fender wall.
Originally Posted by richboy
Do any of you guys think this is happening cuz u didnt get the car align yet im going to get my car align today so ill see whats up.
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For me, it appears to be the top of the A arm that is hitting the underside of the engine bay wall. The metal of the engine bay is formed with a downward buldge above the firewall side of the A arm. This is where the hit occurs on my car. I honestly don't see a way around this. I think all camber kit manufacturers are using tubular metal contruction for their A arms which is taller than the OEM cast peices. Cast aftermarket kits would be cost prohibitive.
If a fix can be made for this, I'd love to have it, but it seems that firming up your shocks is the only quick fix at this time.
If a fix can be made for this, I'd love to have it, but it seems that firming up your shocks is the only quick fix at this time.
Kenetix camber kit I considered buying although I declined after my research because of all the squeaking issues. Correct me if I'm wrong but the Kenetix have 2-3 degrees of positive adjustability and I've never read where their arms hit but their issue was again squeaking from the bushings? I was just curious because their arms look very similiar to the SPC's and was wondering why they don't have the same issue.
I'm taking my car back where I had the camber kit installed and had the alignment. I spoke with him briefly to setup the appointment and he said that the amount of drop has nothing to with the arms hitting. He explained why but till I see it I didn't fully understand
but I will post the results tomorrow.
I'm taking my car back where I had the camber kit installed and had the alignment. I spoke with him briefly to setup the appointment and he said that the amount of drop has nothing to with the arms hitting. He explained why but till I see it I didn't fully understand
but I will post the results tomorrow.
Originally Posted by mark4x4
Kenetix camber kit I considered buying although I declined after my research because of all the squeaking issues. Correct me if I'm wrong but the Kenetix have 2-3 degrees of positive adjustability and I've never read where their arms hit but their issue was again squeaking from the bushings? I was just curious because their arms look very similiar to the SPC's and was wondering why they don't have the same issue.
I'm taking my car back where I had the camber kit installed and had the alignment. I spoke with him briefly to setup the appointment and he said that the amount of drop has nothing to with the arms hitting. He explained why but till I see it I didn't fully understand but I will post the results tomorrow.
I'm taking my car back where I had the camber kit installed and had the alignment. I spoke with him briefly to setup the appointment and he said that the amount of drop has nothing to with the arms hitting. He explained why but till I see it I didn't fully understand
but I will post the results tomorrow.
First let me say that in the Bay Area, Auto Innovations are first rate. They do many spring installs, alignments and come highly recommended by the members on this forum who has used their services.
I went back today to have Orlando take a look at the noise issue. There were no markings on the camber arm that we could see. The only little mark that was visible was at the top of the adjustment bolt and a small mark on the top of the fender. He thinks that is where my noise is coming from although because all cars are not created equal that there is a possibility that on some cars the arms could hit the inner fender lining. That would be a better case, has he says the lining can be trimmed away to give more clearance. We went for a ride and he could tell that it was metal against metal although in 2 instances it sounded like the arm did brush against the inner fender lining.
I asked him about the sensor because I had the same issue with the light and my brake pulsating. He said the bracket is pretty flimsy and it was fortunate that he didn't torque it down, so he was able to reposition the sensor and everything was fine. He said that being that the sensor arm is so flimsy that if it was over torqued that it could do damage to the sensor.
I believe we all need to put a complaint into SPC and to Peter. We all bought in good faith that their product was as stated but even if they correct the problem (in my case I don't see how) I'm going have to pay for another install and another alignment, which I think they should be liable for.
I went back today to have Orlando take a look at the noise issue. There were no markings on the camber arm that we could see. The only little mark that was visible was at the top of the adjustment bolt and a small mark on the top of the fender. He thinks that is where my noise is coming from although because all cars are not created equal that there is a possibility that on some cars the arms could hit the inner fender lining. That would be a better case, has he says the lining can be trimmed away to give more clearance. We went for a ride and he could tell that it was metal against metal although in 2 instances it sounded like the arm did brush against the inner fender lining.
I asked him about the sensor because I had the same issue with the light and my brake pulsating. He said the bracket is pretty flimsy and it was fortunate that he didn't torque it down, so he was able to reposition the sensor and everything was fine. He said that being that the sensor arm is so flimsy that if it was over torqued that it could do damage to the sensor.
I believe we all need to put a complaint into SPC and to Peter. We all bought in good faith that their product was as stated but even if they correct the problem (in my case I don't see how) I'm going have to pay for another install and another alignment, which I think they should be liable for.
Originally Posted by mark4x4
First let me say that in the Bay Area, Auto Innovations are first rate. They do many spring installs, alignments and come highly recommended by the members on this forum who has used their services.
I went back today to have Orlando take a look at the noise issue. There were no markings on the camber arm that we could see. The only little mark that was visible was at the top of the adjustment bolt and a small mark on the top of the fender. He thinks that is where my noise is coming from although because all cars are not created equal that there is a possibility that on some cars the arms could hit the inner fender lining. That would be a better case, has he says the lining can be trimmed away to give more clearance. We went for a ride and he could tell that it was metal against metal although in 2 instances it sounded like the arm did brush against the inner fender lining.
I asked him about the sensor because I had the same issue with the light and my brake pulsating. He said the bracket is pretty flimsy and it was fortunate that he didn't torque it down, so he was able to reposition the sensor and everything was fine. He said that being that the sensor arm is so flimsy that if it was over torqued that it could do damage to the sensor.
I believe we all need to put a complaint into SPC and to Peter. We all bought in good faith that their product was as stated but even if they correct the problem (in my case I don't see how) I'm going have to pay for another install and another alignment, which I think they should be liable for.
I went back today to have Orlando take a look at the noise issue. There were no markings on the camber arm that we could see. The only little mark that was visible was at the top of the adjustment bolt and a small mark on the top of the fender. He thinks that is where my noise is coming from although because all cars are not created equal that there is a possibility that on some cars the arms could hit the inner fender lining. That would be a better case, has he says the lining can be trimmed away to give more clearance. We went for a ride and he could tell that it was metal against metal although in 2 instances it sounded like the arm did brush against the inner fender lining.
I asked him about the sensor because I had the same issue with the light and my brake pulsating. He said the bracket is pretty flimsy and it was fortunate that he didn't torque it down, so he was able to reposition the sensor and everything was fine. He said that being that the sensor arm is so flimsy that if it was over torqued that it could do damage to the sensor.
I believe we all need to put a complaint into SPC and to Peter. We all bought in good faith that their product was as stated but even if they correct the problem (in my case I don't see how) I'm going have to pay for another install and another alignment, which I think they should be liable for.