Rust issues with R1concept rotors

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Old 04-16-2007 | 12:39 PM
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These rotors actually are better than oem rotors in regards to stopping

?????????????

Rotor just support the thin brake compound transfer film which creates the friction as cast iron alone just has a friction coefficient of 0.30 or slightly less.
Its probably all in my head
 
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Old 04-16-2007 | 12:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Q45tech
These rotors actually are better than oem rotors in regards to stopping

?????????????

Rotor just support the thin brake compound transfer film which creates the friction as cast iron alone just has a friction coefficient of 0.30 or slightly less.
Can you put that into Laymen's terms? Not sure what you're saying here.....

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Old 04-16-2007 | 02:30 PM
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Well, Sam Pmed me back regarding the rotors and it looks like the rotors did not have a zinc coating on them. Unfortunately, I did not know this would be the case. If I did, I would have requested the zinc coating or went with another brand. I guess as it stands now, I'll be getting rid of these rotors for powerslots or something else. Anyone have any reviews of decent rotors I should upgrade to?

I told Sam about this thread so hopefully he chimes on in and gives us his thoughts.

Originally Posted by r1concepts
For our Premiums, there is no protection where it does not have contact with the pads. The hub and veins will be protected by the e-coat. Take a Really fine sand paper, and scrub away the rust. After, spray some rust protectant on the surface near the hub and holes. People usually do this before they install the any rotors, especially in the east coast.
 

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Old 04-16-2007 | 04:30 PM
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Hey guys, I do apologize about the rust issues. First off, weather plays a significant role in the rusting of your rotors. I have never said once that this rotor will be zinc coated. Due to our Black E-coat on the hub and inner vents, it is impossible to zinc plate just the surface of the rotor. If the rotors were zinced over the black e-coat, the zinc would easily peel off because the Black e-coat is much stronger. Here is the link of the rotor and description.

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As you can see, the most important part of the rotor to protect from rusting is the hub and vents as these parts have no contact with the brake pads. That is why we have a black electro coating on it.

As you may read on, rust is a issue with most rotors out there. Kind of hard to avoid it. It is annoying, and even i wish there was a rust free rotor for my vehicle, but then again I don't want to pay a few thousand for stainless steel rotors. Like others had suggested, use a medal type brush to scrape off the rust in the holes, and apply some rust protective coat on it. Maybe $5 per can at your local auto part store. Also, after washing your car, wipe down your rotors and rims.

I do understand that you are unhappy of this issue. If you want a coating on the whole surface, i am willing to do this. Just be reasonable in this matter.
1. Send you rotors back to me.
2. I will zinc coat the the whole rotors for free. (which is a $40 dollar value).
3. Pay for shipping back to you.
 
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Old 04-16-2007 | 04:48 PM
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Thanks for your input Sam, and glad to see that you're trying to help us out. I will try the recommended strategy to get the rust off and spray it with some rust coating and see how that works out. Worse comes to worse, I think I'll just buy new rotors due to the fact that it is probably more cost effective.
 
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Old 04-16-2007 | 05:59 PM
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Well i'm glad i did put mine on yet. But i was under the impression they would have a zinc coating since these were a more in price over the non- e-line rotors (which comes with zinc coating). after reading over the link i do stand corrected.

Sam, do you know the turn around time to zinc coat all 4 rotors? Also will you allow for drop offs? Let me know if you do and we can make an arrangement by PM, thank you.
 
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Old 04-16-2007 | 06:38 PM
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All you need to do to prevent additional surface rusting is to remove the rotors, clean the rust off with a wire brush, and paint them with high temp paint at the auto parts store. Unless you are tracking the car, you shouldn't bake the paint off of the rotor. It works great and the brake pads will wear off the paint on the contact patch with no ill effects. Brake dust will eventually coat the drilled holes and slots anyway.

I painted mine black where it meets the hat.
 
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Old 04-16-2007 | 07:21 PM
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Just wanted to update everyone with pictures of what we were referring to. The rust around the hat is very very bad...and this is after one rain storm. So what you are suggesting is to sand off all that rust, and then use hightemp paint to prevent that area from rusting again?
 
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Old 04-16-2007 | 07:41 PM
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So what you are suggesting is to sand off all that rust, and then use hightemp paint to prevent that area from rusting again?
Exactly. It will easily accomplish what you want for very little time and money.

For anyone just getting these rotors, paint them before even putting them on.

Your issue is very common. Even expensive two piece rotors will rust in the same areas. that's why I painted mine where the pad doesn't make contact.
 
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Old 04-16-2007 | 07:57 PM
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Sam/Gilley: many thanks for the tips!
 
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Old 04-16-2007 | 08:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Gilley
Exactly. It will easily accomplish what you want for very little time and money.

For anyone just getting these rotors, paint them before even putting them on.

Your issue is very common. Even expensive two piece rotors will rust in the same areas. that's why I painted mine where the pad doesn't make contact.
Hi Gilley, you sound very experienced with rotors. Thanks for chiming in on this thread. As you can see, this is not a real problem, just a common shock for customers on their first rotor change.
 
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Old 04-16-2007 | 08:14 PM
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humm, so what about the slots and drilled parts. do we paint in them?? i would perfer to have them zinc coated.
 
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Old 04-16-2007 | 08:29 PM
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Sam will you have all future Rotors, Zinc Coated to avoid this? Will Zinc Coating effectively prevent rust in the slots and holes?
 
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Old 04-16-2007 | 08:37 PM
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Gilley, did you also paint your slots too? They look like they are black.
 
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Old 04-16-2007 | 08:37 PM
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humm, so what about the slots and drilled parts. do we paint in them??
Yes. That's the point. After a while, if your rotors are like mine, the slots and holes will get pad material in them anyway. I used 1200 degree paint from the auto parts store.

You're welcome Sam. When it comes time for rotors for my sedan, I'll be contacting you. And I'll paint them like this too.
 


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