Rust issues with R1concept rotors
Originally Posted by RXM
Guess my question got answered
Anyone know the torque settings for the sedan brakes?
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From: Burbs of Philly
Hey Sam,
I'm just an understanding guy. I've been around long enough to know that you don't get anywhere by getting angry and yelling at people. Its just not the way things work. You get more with honey than you do vineger.
I'm glad that you decided to post on the board and help come to some resolution with this situation. Customer service is top notch! Is it possible that if I order future rotors that you can pre-spray them with either zinc or high temp paint and I'll pay you the extra charge? This might be worthwhile for me to do.
I'm just an understanding guy. I've been around long enough to know that you don't get anywhere by getting angry and yelling at people. Its just not the way things work. You get more with honey than you do vineger.
I'm glad that you decided to post on the board and help come to some resolution with this situation. Customer service is top notch! Is it possible that if I order future rotors that you can pre-spray them with either zinc or high temp paint and I'll pay you the extra charge? This might be worthwhile for me to do.
Originally Posted by G35ANSTA
Sam will you have all future Rotors, Zinc Coated to avoid this? Will Zinc Coating effectively prevent rust in the slots and holes?
Some have asked if we don't Ecoat the rotors black and just zinc plate the rotors. We can't because the rotors come standard with the black. In addition, I must differentiate between our rotors. We have two product lines, the Elines and the Premiums. The Elines are the inexpensive zinc plated rotors. The premiums come with the black ecoating and a stronger casting.
I want to point out that the post on page 2 of the thread of the post is misleading. Filanj had actually linked you guys to the Eline rotors. The premium rotors that we have are here:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/R1-PR...7121QQtcZphoto
So, be happy that you all got a good deal. Besides the rust issue, can you guys chime in on the performance?
i leave you guys alone for one night, and see that this thread has evolved into something that....well, i don't know what!
RXM, i don't know where that ring comes from on the rotor surface! the brake pad should still make contact at that point. the pad should make contact with the ENTIRE rotor surface.
for those wondering, what Q45tech is talking about, is that the rotor is a surface transfer area...meaning that as the pad/rotor is heated, there is a surface transfer FROM the pad, TO the rotor. this material is pretty much half of what determines your stopping power (because it IS the pad, ie-street pad or racing compound). i wouldn't feel very comfortable painting the surface of the rotor (the pad contact surface) as i don't know what that would do (contamination wise) to the transfer area and the pad itself. in addition, if you paint the inside of the holes, you must keep in mind that over time, the rotor will begin to get thinner, and the pad will hit this new paint.
RXM, i don't know where that ring comes from on the rotor surface! the brake pad should still make contact at that point. the pad should make contact with the ENTIRE rotor surface.
for those wondering, what Q45tech is talking about, is that the rotor is a surface transfer area...meaning that as the pad/rotor is heated, there is a surface transfer FROM the pad, TO the rotor. this material is pretty much half of what determines your stopping power (because it IS the pad, ie-street pad or racing compound). i wouldn't feel very comfortable painting the surface of the rotor (the pad contact surface) as i don't know what that would do (contamination wise) to the transfer area and the pad itself. in addition, if you paint the inside of the holes, you must keep in mind that over time, the rotor will begin to get thinner, and the pad will hit this new paint.
The slots in the rotor will clean off any paint on the rotor that is not turned to dust. It's really no different than clearing the rust or zinc coating off the rotors, other than it is paint and not iron oxide. The little amount of paint that the pads will encounter in the holes as the rotors wear is nothing. Just apply a light coat of paint. A 1/4 inch buildup of paint isn't necessary and probably isn't a good idea.
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From: Burbs of Philly
Originally Posted by n1cK
RXM, i don't know where that ring comes from on the rotor surface! the brake pad should still make contact at that point. the pad should make contact with the ENTIRE rotor surface.
I was planning on scrubbing down the rotors and applying two thin layers of high temp paint to it to keep it from rusting. As you can tell, it's very unslightly and embarassing to see on the car
Originally Posted by RXM
Hey Nick...the pads do not make contact with that patch of rust at all. I'm using Hawk HPS pads and they do not reach that area and hence that is why it is not coming off when I drive.
I was planning on scrubbing down the rotors and applying two thin layers of high temp paint to it to keep it from rusting. As you can tell, it's very unslightly and embarassing to see on the car
I was planning on scrubbing down the rotors and applying two thin layers of high temp paint to it to keep it from rusting. As you can tell, it's very unslightly and embarassing to see on the car

as for the paint, well....i guess we know on where i stand on that. but make sure that you do a proper bed in process! refer to stoptech's instructions for stock sized brakes.
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From: Burbs of Philly
In regards to the paint on the rotors, I know where you stand and I can see why. But I'm also sure you wouldn't want your rotors to rust like mine did
I think what I'm going to do is paint the rotors and then do the bed in procedure. After that, I'm going to switch to project mu or endless pads and see how that works out.
I think what I'm going to do is paint the rotors and then do the bed in procedure. After that, I'm going to switch to project mu or endless pads and see how that works out.
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From: Burbs of Philly
Originally Posted by r1concepts
So, be happy that you all got a good deal. Besides the rust issue, can you guys chime in on the performance?
I don't sense any slippage when I go to apply the brakes. I give the performance 2 thumbs up.
Originally Posted by Gilley
All you need to do to prevent additional surface rusting is to remove the rotors, clean the rust off with a wire brush, and paint them with high temp paint at the auto parts store. Unless you are tracking the car, you shouldn't bake the paint off of the rotor. It works great and the brake pads will wear off the paint on the contact patch with no ill effects. Brake dust will eventually coat the drilled holes and slots anyway.
I painted mine black where it meets the hat.
I painted mine black where it meets the hat.
Well I'm glad i've been too busy to install my rotors and got a chance to read this thread. Thanks for all the good info Gilley. I'll be sure to paint them before install.
Just to be sure before i do it, I just paint the whole thing?
Just to be sure before i do it, I just paint the whole thing?
Originally Posted by Dakkerz
Well I'm glad i've been too busy to install my rotors and got a chance to read this thread. Thanks for all the good info Gilley. I'll be sure to paint them before install.
Just to be sure before i do it, I just paint the whole thing?
Just to be sure before i do it, I just paint the whole thing?


