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I know he is (I think you're the one who told me)... But the mechanical engineer in me just couldn't help it. Originally Posted by Gdup35sedan
lol... Norb, Scott is a professional driver, used to race Nascar, he tests everything you can throw at him in real world situations (the Track) so i'd have to say he knows his ish!-GP-

EDIT: On a side note, who was that guy from LV who got turbo-ed by Scott, the one with the black G? (I'm so bad with names.)
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EDIT: On a side note, who was that guy from LV who got turbo-ed by Scott, the one with the black G? (I'm so bad with names.)
jordan - aka canadianOriginally Posted by nooooorb
I know he is (I think you're the one who told me)... But the mechanical engineer in me just couldn't help it. 
EDIT: On a side note, who was that guy from LV who got turbo-ed by Scott, the one with the black G? (I'm so bad with names.)
scott has tested plenty of strut bars for our cars.

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EDIT: On a side note, who was that guy from LV who got turbo-ed by Scott, the one with the black G? (I'm so bad with names.)
Hello, noooorb.Originally Posted by nooooorb
I know he is (I think you're the one who told me)... But the mechanical engineer in me just couldn't help it. 
EDIT: On a side note, who was that guy from LV who got turbo-ed by Scott, the one with the black G? (I'm so bad with names.)
That guy with the black '06 G35 is Jordan (Canadian on here)
I have an aerospace engineering background and education, and a degree in Mech. Eng. (to name one) So I do understand your quest for more data. (Its like a sickness we have, Hahaha)
Unfortunately I have not (nor do I see the need to) actually beta test these "strut tower braces" in a lab condition for structural, stencil, and torsional rigidity strength, etc. I feel that is a bit overkill on such a part as this one
But I do appreciate your point. And thank you too Grant (and Cal) for looking out.
I have tested several renditions, versions, and materials used in my quest for an actual functional STB. I was shocked to find out just how much these FM designed cars flex under torsional load (especially when the car is in YAW)
To make a long story short, after some failed attempts and some more material and design changes this is what I have came up with. It is made of 4130 and is of a design that has been torture tested to death. Sorry for the lack of scientific data to support this part, but I neither had the time, energy, or resources to get that carried away on a product like this one......maybe next time

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Hey Scott,Originally Posted by wa2good
So I do understand your quest for more data. (Its like a sickness we have, Hahaha)
Ah, so you do understand. It's so hard to let go sometimes, isn't it? LOL.
In any case, maybe one of these days I'll do some simple load cases, but not really knowing the tube structure would make it kind of hard to come up with any sort of useful data. Knowing more of your background now, I'd probably just take your work and word for it.
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You can believe hime:bowrohim I'm glad I did. His is the only STB that really worksOriginally Posted by nooooorb
Knowing more of your background now, I'd probably just take your work and word for it.Norb
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bowrofl: I'm glad I did. His is the only STB that really works
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Lou - Don't get me wrong, I do believe him. I am one who'd rather over-design than risk failure near the failure point (+FOS). Just on material selection and UTS data alone, you can tell his STB is much more solid than any of the others out there. That being said, I am also someone who likes to stir the pot a little... Originally Posted by lowrider
You can believe him
bowrofl: I'm glad I did. His is the only STB that really works
Lou
.Scott - On a different note... I've never been to your shop and I'm sure not a lot of folks here have since you left VRT. Any chance you can get a little meet/tour of your shop one of these days?
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How do you qualify your design? What makes it better or worse than all the other STBs out there? Was any sort of FEA done on it (or even a run-to-failure test) and compared to the other STBs (material-wise and strength-wise)?
Yes. 304SS is stronger than AL6061T6 but for our application, going with SS may be overkill (and at the same time going with AL may be insufficient). So without any real comparative testing with all of the STBs in the market one can't really say that one STB is better than the other.
In regards to aluminum being insufficient i can say from personal experience that it is. I have had 2 different aluminum STB's on my G and both have either bent/torqued themselves. The design of a bent alu stb compounds the weaker material. It may be possible to have an aluminum if is a straight bar but even then i would expect it to fail under high stress.Originally Posted by nooooorb
wa2good - How do you qualify your design? What makes it better or worse than all the other STBs out there? Was any sort of FEA done on it (or even a run-to-failure test) and compared to the other STBs (material-wise and strength-wise)?
Yes. 304SS is stronger than AL6061T6 but for our application, going with SS may be overkill (and at the same time going with AL may be insufficient). So without any real comparative testing with all of the STBs in the market one can't really say that one STB is better than the other.
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Damn, looks like I still have to keep on making my (very first one out) version of these STB's, untill someone steps up and makes a worthy one. Oh well..........
How much will your's cost?Originally Posted by wa2good
Too bad this Stillen version (and all the other bent aluminum ones) are just that aluminum
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Damn, looks like I still have to keep on making my (very first one out) version of these STB's, untill someone steps up and makes a worthy one. Oh well..........
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450 + shippingOriginally Posted by izmir41500
How much will your's cost?
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'Originally Posted by johnjayb
does your strut bar fit with a vortech???? i been asking for sooo long!
Besides you, I have not had anyone looking for this STB to fit with the Vortech SC or the ATI Pro Charger. I have already, and will still offer a deeply discounted one to anyone (semi-local) with one of these SC's that can spare their car for a couple days for us to develope one that fits with these centrifigal type SC's. Any takers??? (just PM me)
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Yes, I am looking to move into a more suitable location here in a while when things slow down a little and some money can be banked. We have just been real busy and there is a lot of new expenses for a start up company here in Cali. Originally Posted by nooooorb
Scott - On a different note... I've never been to your shop and I'm sure not a lot of folks here have since you left VRT. Any chance you can get a little meet/tour of your shop one of these days?Norb
and I would just rather have a better shop and location before too long, then maybe have a grand opening / open house type thing. I will keep everyone posted. 
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someone with a vortech find out!!!!.... i want a strut bar now... and want the vortech later.