Tein Coilover question
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Tein Coilover question
I'm getting ready to purchase a coilover kit and wanted some opinions.. im stuck between the tein flex series and the tein mono series .... heres what i want aggressive handling street use i dont mind giving up some comfort but i dont want a harsh ride quality either... please tell me what you would choose and why.. also what type of driving you would be doing.
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ok was just reading some more in the forums about suspension and am open to any coilover manufacture... dont want to go over 2k for the coilovers. but want the best i can get for my money.. my style of driving is fast and faster... i love grip and want more of it but i also love kicking out the rear end.. i love the ride comfort it has stock but i can sacrafice some... now if you had 2g's maybe a bit more to dump on any coilover setup what would you get and why? please respond asap im trying to buy these this weekend or sooner would love to get it on when i get my new wheels on..
if i were to buy coilovers i again i would get the stance gr3+ due to it being able to do high speed and low speed bump compression adjustments and rebound adjustments as well. they are also a true coilover for the g35. i would also look into the buddy club, and k2 variant coilovers.
i would then dump it to the ground and get spc camber arms and toe bolts for the rear and 350evo camber arms for the front
i would then dump it to the ground and get spc camber arms and toe bolts for the rear and 350evo camber arms for the front
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ok the auto performance shop i just started going to recomended the kw varient series coilovers and the tein ... ive narrowed it down to those 2 but am keeping my options open for the hks hypermax aswell.... pls guys i need fast responses ordering these soon need to get them hopefully by this weekend.... i want responses from drivers who have or had these in there cars and how they felt, cornered and comfort... also anyone recomend any online shops that sell for good prices my shop is gunna price match
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have any shops at the top of your head who may be priced better than most? also which varient should i chose is there a way to find tried and true set-ups for those specific coilovers... thanks for all the help so far bro
I would not install Jic coilovers even if they were given to me, way too many owner comments logged on my350z since 03 that deal with the quality of the product and extreamly poor customer service. IMO they carry the short warranty that they do for a reason. Their are too many other choices that spec the same or offer much better qualities.
Well,..........I've been keeping track of owner comments since 2003 and you would be the first and only person that has discribed the Jic FLT-A2 on a 350Z as being "really comfortable", let alone post up in a thread there the OP want's comfort. I didn't write any of the following.
Originally Posted by Devil Z
I have JIC-Magic FLT-A2's and they are really comfortable even with the 10kg/12kg spring rates.
Well,..........I've been keeping track of owner comments since 2003 and you would be the first and only person that has discribed the Jic FLT-A2 on a 350Z as being "really comfortable", let alone post up in a thread there the OP want's comfort. I didn't write any of the following.
Originally Posted by azrael
for those people out there with JIC FLT-A2 coilovers on their Z --
how is the ride? Stiffness isn't a problem, but a harsh ride would probably bother me. The stock suspension's tendency to "bounce" is somewhat harsh. I'm hoping to improve the handling and fix the bounce simultaneously with a coilover install.
how is the ride? Stiffness isn't a problem, but a harsh ride would probably bother me. The stock suspension's tendency to "bounce" is somewhat harsh. I'm hoping to improve the handling and fix the bounce simultaneously with a coilover install.
Originally Posted by John
If you get the linear setup, the car will still have a pretty jarring ride. The rebound is adjustable on the ground...
Originally Posted by azrael
even on full soft?
hm, that's somewhat disappointing. I might have to talk to a few other people with FLT-A2s on other cars just to compare experiences before I make a decision.
hm, that's somewhat disappointing. I might have to talk to a few other people with FLT-A2s on other cars just to compare experiences before I make a decision.
Originally Posted by John
I have mine on full soft all the time (except when at the track), and on DC roads, it's pretty friggin harsh. Once I get out of the urban areas, the roads are smooth enough where I don't notice the stiffness. What are the roads like in your area? Are there lots of potholes, buckles, et cetera?
Originally Posted by John
JICs are trash, with high spring rates to mask poor valving. Lots of rattles, awful US customer support, overheating, and quite vulnerable to leaking. They've performed mediocre on track the past two years... and their ride on the street is taxing...
Originally Posted by daveh
Agree with everything John said about the JIC's (but tell us how you really feel 
). I can vouch for the unitech/truechoice setup. You can't go wrong with a kit developed and tuned by a winning grand-am cup team. The spring rates and shock valving were derived from their race car!
I just tracked it yesterday at thunderhill and knocked about 4 seconds off my time. Their use of mild spring rates really soaks up the bumps which ultimately allows you to go faster. The shock adjustments really make a difference too. You can feel the difference of just one click. I'll write a full review when I have the time.
). I can vouch for the unitech/truechoice setup. You can't go wrong with a kit developed and tuned by a winning grand-am cup team. The spring rates and shock valving were derived from their race car! I just tracked it yesterday at thunderhill and knocked about 4 seconds off my time. Their use of mild spring rates really soaks up the bumps which ultimately allows you to go faster. The shock adjustments really make a difference too. You can feel the difference of just one click. I'll write a full review when I have the time.
Originally Posted by anotheraznguy
I agree DMAN!!! jic aint that great. Zeals on the other hand is awesome...
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I loved the zeals on my car. on the street it was 2 front and 3 rear and to this day i regret selling them because stock is worse than the zeals were
=)
I loved the zeals on my car. on the street it was 2 front and 3 rear and to this day i regret selling them because stock is worse than the zeals were
Originally Posted by sentry65
yeah the JIC's seem to have the most sacrifices for daily driven, and I've read about their poor customer service. If they do overheat though, I'll skip them for sure. I'd think with the track oriented reputation they have, if they overheat then they're not very well engineered since their goal is all out performance.
The HKS's spring weights seem more neutral while the Zeal's is stiffer in front and looser in back. How would those compare?
I definetly want something track oriented/heavy duty, and well balanced. The HKS is less money, but I'm getting the impression they're more street oriented than track.
The HKS's spring weights seem more neutral while the Zeal's is stiffer in front and looser in back. How would those compare?
I definetly want something track oriented/heavy duty, and well balanced. The HKS is less money, but I'm getting the impression they're more street oriented than track.
Originally Posted by DmanG281
After about a year and a half my JICs pretty much started to fall apart. The finish on the springs started stripping off and the collars started rusting. Not to mention the damping on them was horrible little to no difference between full stiff and full soft. It didn't really matter anyways because the damper adjustment froze on them anyway. I will never ever buy another JIC suspension product ever.
Originally Posted by all star gene
You won't regret it if you get those, I had the JIC FLT-A2's for about 500 miles and I hated every mile. They ride way too stiff for everyday but those HKS RS's are close to a stock ride. Check the vendor classifieds for Injected Performance, I got mine from there for $1400 shipped.
Originally Posted by Z1 Performance
I have the Zero 2 on mine, and we have done a few of them so far - definately a nice setup overall, and much less choppy on the street than the JIC's were.
I have driven 2 Z's so far with Zero 2's on the track, but not my own car yet.
I have driven 2 Z's so far with Zero 2's on the track, but not my own car yet.
Originally Posted by PhoenixINX
The JICs HURT...
Unless you're into a VERY rough ride, do not get them...
However, the first corner or track day you attend... you'll quickly remember why you put up with that roughness!
Unless you're into a VERY rough ride, do not get them...
However, the first corner or track day you attend... you'll quickly remember why you put up with that roughness!
The golden rule with suspension is to have as high a spring rate as you can have that does not go beyond the dampners ablity to keep them on the road on your given road condition's. Translation, excellent R&D affords the science on the inside to make higher spring rates work. Tein Mono flex has reviewed extreamly well on my350z, inspite of it's 14Kg/14Kg spring rates. IMO, register on my350Z.com and go to the regional forums that covers Washington state and post a request for anyone running the coilover.
KW Varient 3 has also reviewed well, however that setup uses a progressive rear spring that can put a dampner on your fun in agressive driving since it has a wide spread between the initial and higher final rate. You also give up full height adjustablity and if you need any parts, they are extreamly expensive.
If the Mono flex doesn't pan out for you I woud look into HKS hypermax III or Cusco Zero2. If you can afford them, Zeal's are known to be excellent.
KW Varient 3 has also reviewed well, however that setup uses a progressive rear spring that can put a dampner on your fun in agressive driving since it has a wide spread between the initial and higher final rate. You also give up full height adjustablity and if you need any parts, they are extreamly expensive.
If the Mono flex doesn't pan out for you I woud look into HKS hypermax III or Cusco Zero2. If you can afford them, Zeal's are known to be excellent.
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