Alright after searching the threads and trying to find an answer I thought I would just post a question.

I just put some 20's on the car (pics will come later) and lowered it with Eibach prokit and got the car aligned. The shop told me that the camber is way off and I need to get some kind of camber kit to get it fixed, he would not even recommend me driving it on the highway.

Here are my specs:

Front:
Camber: Initial:
Left:-1.68 -1.68
Right:-1.98 -1.95

Toe is in line

Rear:
Camber:
Left: -2.58 -2.75
Right: -2.32 -2.58

My question is: are the cambers really bad that I can't drive the car and need to get the camber kits? Is this the most we can adjust the camber w/o the camber kits? I can't imagine stock we could not adjust it anymore w/o the camber kits. Should I get it re-done somewhere else? Whats the most we can adjust the camber on a lowered car w/o the camber kits?

Any help would be great

Thanks

 

you can't adjust camber in the front of our cars, but they can adjust the rear to some extent. they likely adjusted the rear camber as much as they could while keeping toe in spec.

as for your larger question, yes, you can drive it like that, but you're going to wear out your tires much quicker. you have 3 basic options: buy tires more often (expensive), have your tires demounted & moved to the opposite side of the car every few months (annoying), or get camber kit(s).

i recommend that you get at least a rear camber/toe kit since the rear tires are the most expensive. you can get SPC's kit for $169 from the vendors on this site. front camber kits cost a lot more - usually as much as a new set of front tires.

 

Thanks for the advice. When I look at the rear you can see it camber. On my previous cars I never had them aligned and they were a lot lower. When you say switch you mean take the left tire out and put it were the right tire is and vice versa? I could see how annoying that can get. I guess I will wait a little to get the SPC rear camber kit, money is a little dry right now. Does it take long to install the rear camber kit?

Thanks again

 

rear camber isn't hard to install. the rear toe bolts that you'll probably need to get in spec are a little more of a pain in the ***. you have to elongate some holes with a dremel tool. it's not hard, just annoying.

i definately would adjust it though. almost 3 degrees in the rear is a lot. 2.5 is the max and most don't run over 2. (talking in negative degrees here). fronts the service manual max is 1.3 degrees. mine were sitting at 1.8 and it seemed to pull my toe out and wear my tires down.

just as an fyi, these cars are expensive to modify. look at the whole cost before you change anything else and save to get all the things required otherwise you're going to have a lot of heartache. It's an oddity of our cars that everything requires a couple of things whenever you want to change one small thing. so far it's cost me around 1500$ just to lower this car 1". Talk about crazy.

oh ya, and you def want to spend the money to do it right. half assing stuff on these cars destroys them and again costs more money in the long run.

 

yep. for example, you'd have the right rear tire demounted, then remounted on the left rear wheel. you can swap them left to right, but not front to back (assuming your wheels are staggered).

 

Thanks for all the advice I think I'm going to do the camber kit after all. Just did not realize how complicated this would all get.

 

Keep in mind (mentioned above by binder) that fixing the camber issue in the rear will/may cause a toe issue which is worse. I just finsihed enlongating my toe bolt holes in the rear and got the toe to .20 on either side with -1.5 on the RR and 1.7 on the LR on the latest alignment. Prior to the toe fix, I was at -2.5 and -2.7 respectively on the camber.

 

I would just do the front and rear camber kits all at once and get one alignment. Don't just do the rear and then have to do the front later

 

Another question. If I get the car aligned with the camber kits to factory spec or close to it, do I have to roll the fenders since the tires are more straight?

 

^ +1. I would get both kits and have it done right with all the adjustability you need. There are A arms that cost ~ 400 which is the same price as a set of tires for the front. Worth it IMHO, but a cause of lots of argument on this forum.

As for rolling your fenders, it's going to depend on the specs of your 20s... what are the sizes and offsets for the wheels and tires that are mounted on them?

 

wtf is "toe is inline" lol...

take it to a reputable shop and have it re-done.
especially the rear cambers that are adjustable
should be within 0.2 at worst case.

and dont come home until you have real numbers for the toe.

 

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