Tokico HP vs OEM shocks/struts (review)
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LOL no, I just think I'm funny.. I was about to start shopping for the HP blues, and there was a lot of conflicting posts in this thread. I just had a spacers installed, and fenders rolled, and alignment done. Did anyone ever confirm whether or not the HP G-Shocks alter your ride height? I don't want to have the car re-aligned.. But I need shocks, mine are toast.
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OK so here is my question? I want to get the S-tech teins but i need new struts, will those hp tokico will raise my car more than the oem struts or will be the same if i get the oem struts?
And another question is i saw they have the adjustable struts tokico D-Specs on eBay.. Does anyone know about this one? if you do please tell me if you can adjust the struts from soft to hard....
Which one is better he D-spec or the HP ?
And another question is i saw they have the adjustable struts tokico D-Specs on eBay.. Does anyone know about this one? if you do please tell me if you can adjust the struts from soft to hard....
Which one is better he D-spec or the HP ?
Your first question has been answered about a dozen times.
Your second question could have been answered by going to tokicos website.
Dspecs are adjustable and b.etter. But its very hard forget to the rear struts
Your second question could have been answered by going to tokicos website.
Dspecs are adjustable and b.etter. But its very hard forget to the rear struts
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not to beat a dead horse, but looking at changing out some things on an '06 6MT sedan.....
car has 18's and a 6MT
however, the tokico's are black all around....are they the "sport suspension'? and if so, would it be wise to change out for the z revised/unrevised spring setup? which one?
Thanks, NGK
car has 18's and a 6MT
however, the tokico's are black all around....are they the "sport suspension'? and if so, would it be wise to change out for the z revised/unrevised spring setup? which one?
Thanks, NGK
Just installed Tokico D-Specs on my G35 coupe. The shocks for the Z are slightly (1/4") shorter so I went with the ones for the G. Already have issues getting in and out of my driveway. Followed the instructions on the settings, may go a couple clicks stiffer but a nice ride with my Tein 350Z H-Techs....Gary
^ Gary,
did the 350z h-techs drop the car significantly compared to the stock springs? I am asking you since I have same front/sides as you. I daily the car and don't want to make it go too low but want to get rid of some wheel gap at the same time. Let me know if you have any advice for me.
Anyways, my question for this thread is that are the sports suspension shocks better than the tokiko blues in any way? or vice-versa? Which ones are stiffer, stable, better ride quality, etc?
did the 350z h-techs drop the car significantly compared to the stock springs? I am asking you since I have same front/sides as you. I daily the car and don't want to make it go too low but want to get rid of some wheel gap at the same time. Let me know if you have any advice for me.
Anyways, my question for this thread is that are the sports suspension shocks better than the tokiko blues in any way? or vice-versa? Which ones are stiffer, stable, better ride quality, etc?
That's exactly the point.
The length of the shaft and/or shock body do not affect the spring rate. It only dictates how much travel the suspension has before the piston shaft bottoms out.
The G shocks have more droop travel but less compression because of the longer piston. The Z shocks have more compression travel but less droop travel because of the shorter piston.
The key point is that as long as the same set of springs give the same ride height when installed on the same vehicle, it doesn't change it's stiffness regardless of piston length of the shocks.
The length of the shaft and/or shock body do not affect the spring rate. It only dictates how much travel the suspension has before the piston shaft bottoms out.
The G shocks have more droop travel but less compression because of the longer piston. The Z shocks have more compression travel but less droop travel because of the shorter piston.
The key point is that as long as the same set of springs give the same ride height when installed on the same vehicle, it doesn't change it's stiffness regardless of piston length of the shocks.
Sorry to bump an old thread but I'm going through the same issue.
soooo this thread is confusing as no other but what i could gather is...
A. z hps will be stiffer than g hps.
B. depending on how bad off your oem shocks are it could either raise the car due to worn shocks or the ride height stays the same.
C. z hps put on a g will drop the rear an extra .5 inch? saw that somewhere..
and now my question.
if installing z hps on a g does in fact drop the rear an extra .5 from just the z hps, would that eliminate the need for spring mount mod on uneven drop springs like tein 350z springs? on a diff thread someone was saying that they installed the rsr 350 springs on a g and the rear didnt drop. would make sense if the g shocks/struts were taller/longer in the back.
A. z hps will be stiffer than g hps.
B. depending on how bad off your oem shocks are it could either raise the car due to worn shocks or the ride height stays the same.
C. z hps put on a g will drop the rear an extra .5 inch? saw that somewhere..
and now my question.
if installing z hps on a g does in fact drop the rear an extra .5 from just the z hps, would that eliminate the need for spring mount mod on uneven drop springs like tein 350z springs? on a diff thread someone was saying that they installed the rsr 350 springs on a g and the rear didnt drop. would make sense if the g shocks/struts were taller/longer in the back.
soooo this thread is confusing as no other but what i could gather is...
A. z hps will be stiffer than g hps.
B. depending on how bad off your oem shocks are it could either raise the car due to worn shocks or the ride height stays the same.
C. z hps put on a g will drop the rear an extra .5 inch? saw that somewhere..
and now my question.
if installing z hps on a g does in fact drop the rear an extra .5 from just the z hps, would that eliminate the need for spring mount mod on uneven drop springs like tein 350z springs? on a diff thread someone was saying that they installed the rsr 350 springs on a g and the rear didnt drop. would make sense if the g shocks/struts were taller/longer in the back.
A. z hps will be stiffer than g hps.
B. depending on how bad off your oem shocks are it could either raise the car due to worn shocks or the ride height stays the same.
C. z hps put on a g will drop the rear an extra .5 inch? saw that somewhere..
and now my question.
if installing z hps on a g does in fact drop the rear an extra .5 from just the z hps, would that eliminate the need for spring mount mod on uneven drop springs like tein 350z springs? on a diff thread someone was saying that they installed the rsr 350 springs on a g and the rear didnt drop. would make sense if the g shocks/struts were taller/longer in the back.
Longevity review:
As it turns out these shocks don't live long with lowered springs.
Pretty much every forum out there reports the same thing. Shocks either blow or start leaking quite fast when coupled with lowered springs. In my case they were paired with Tein H-tech springs and went out after 70k. OEM shocks lasted 90k but they were not used with lowered springs the entire time.
So. If you are looking for shocks that will last longer than that go with Tokico D-Spec. They are adjustable and reportedly last forever when paired with lowered springs, plus Tokico offers limited lifetime warranty on them.
Another option is Koni Yello. They are also adjustable just like Tokico D-Spec and Koni also offers Lifetime warranty on them, which sounds to be better than Tokico warranty.
If you don't want adjust-ability and lifetime warranty go with KYB shocks. They seem to similar to Tokico HP blue, but reportedly last longer (don't quote me on that, do your own research)
I'm going with Koni Yellow due to availability and lifetime warranty.
As it turns out these shocks don't live long with lowered springs.
Pretty much every forum out there reports the same thing. Shocks either blow or start leaking quite fast when coupled with lowered springs. In my case they were paired with Tein H-tech springs and went out after 70k. OEM shocks lasted 90k but they were not used with lowered springs the entire time.
So. If you are looking for shocks that will last longer than that go with Tokico D-Spec. They are adjustable and reportedly last forever when paired with lowered springs, plus Tokico offers limited lifetime warranty on them.
Another option is Koni Yello. They are also adjustable just like Tokico D-Spec and Koni also offers Lifetime warranty on them, which sounds to be better than Tokico warranty.
If you don't want adjust-ability and lifetime warranty go with KYB shocks. They seem to similar to Tokico HP blue, but reportedly last longer (don't quote me on that, do your own research)
I'm going with Koni Yellow due to availability and lifetime warranty.