G35x front wheel bearings
#91
Another thing you might want to think about is what if you had a bad hub and thats what made the bearing go bad. You might notice it when you pull/press them apart and need to buy a new hub anyways. If you reuse your hub and thats what made your bearing go bad, your going to do the same thing to your new bearing. Honestly, its not worth the headache and trouble to save a few bucks. I probably cut 3 hours off the install time, and thats if you have the tools handy, if you need to go somewhere to use the tools, your car might be down for a few days.
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#93
I see. Then for those that don't have a shop press, that HF wheel bearing adapter tool I mentioned should still be able to press the hub into the bearing. That appears to be the most challenging part of this job.
#94
Another thing you might want to think about is what if you had a bad hub and thats what made the bearing go bad. You might notice it when you pull/press them apart and need to buy a new hub anyways. If you reuse your hub and thats what made your bearing go bad, your going to do the same thing to your new bearing. Honestly, its not worth the headache and trouble to save a few bucks. I probably cut 3 hours off the install time, and thats if you have the tools handy, if you need to go somewhere to use the tools, your car might be down for a few days.
More than likely i will buy a new hub, i just wanted to see what the hub i remove looks like first. After 2 bearings and a hub...what's another $140 for peace-of-mind
#96
Does anyone sell a hub with wheel bearing already pressed in or you can only buy each component separately?
I've changed some wheel bearings in my Honda before and used the Harbor Freight wheel bearing adapter set which worked great. For the G35, I know you can press the hub into the bearing using that tool (if you don't want to buy or have access to a shop press). Ideally the wheel bearing would first be bolted into place, then you would use the HF tool with the right adapters to press the hub into the bearing. In either case, if you want to re-use the hub, you will have to cut (using a die grinder) or somehow pull the old wheel bearing's inner race off the hub (using some bearing pullers which might not always work). That would save you from having to buy an extra hub. Just adding another potential option to this thread.
I've changed some wheel bearings in my Honda before and used the Harbor Freight wheel bearing adapter set which worked great. For the G35, I know you can press the hub into the bearing using that tool (if you don't want to buy or have access to a shop press). Ideally the wheel bearing would first be bolted into place, then you would use the HF tool with the right adapters to press the hub into the bearing. In either case, if you want to re-use the hub, you will have to cut (using a die grinder) or somehow pull the old wheel bearing's inner race off the hub (using some bearing pullers which might not always work). That would save you from having to buy an extra hub. Just adding another potential option to this thread.
Pressing the hub into the bearing is simple. it doesn't take much force. I used a 12-ton press and it went in with ease. I bet a good hydraulic jack could do it if you had a hard surface to jack it up against...but that's kinda hack.
I think the biggest issue would be removing the old hub from the bearings, which is why i chose to buy a new hub and pre-press. Even the FSM states removing the hub will destroy the bearing. There is no way to grab the inner race of the bearin with a bearing separator, so you end up pulling the hub out with the race attached and then have to dremel that apart. Plus you gotta do this while your car is apart and you may already be a few hours into the job.
That's why i bought a hub. It took all of 5 mins to press the hub in and most of that time was spent looking for proper sized pressing dies to push with. That way, like i said before, when i get the old bearing/hub out, i can just kick it aside and move onto reassembly. Not "f'in" around with the old hub is worth the extra $140-150 for me to just get through this job with the least amount of hassle. I almost considered buying a used spindle for $100 as well.
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I'm only doing 1 side at a time (1 side still has some life left) so i'll pull the hub out of the old one at some point when i have time and inspect.
If i buy 2 new hubs, i wonder if i can Ebay my old hubs?
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#97
Ok, just to update. Halfway done with one side. Everyone who said I'd have to pull the spindle was 100% right. That bearing was not coming out at all!
It took me 4 hours to get the spindle off, and that included an hour of trying to use a slide hammer or other methods to get it off.
Plus side, taking the spindle off was easy as pie. I'm heading to work now to use the press and press the old bearing out right now. I'll wrap up tomorrow AM.
I've been taking pics during the entire process.
It took me 4 hours to get the spindle off, and that included an hour of trying to use a slide hammer or other methods to get it off.
Plus side, taking the spindle off was easy as pie. I'm heading to work now to use the press and press the old bearing out right now. I'll wrap up tomorrow AM.
I've been taking pics during the entire process.
Last edited by Mustang5L5; 07-30-2011 at 06:01 PM.
#98
Ok, Hard part done!!!
New bearing and hub installed...just waiting for me to put spindle back on car in the AM!
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Overall, not too hard, but I needed to have a press. Without it, no way this bearing was coming out. It took a little bit of force on the press to pop the bearing out, but it came. The disassembly was not that bad actually. I wish i had spent the $100 for a Harbor Freight press to keep on-site because I had to travel 1 hr each way to use this press at my work.
That's why i didn't finish the job tonight.
I'm gonna put together a DIY...but here's a few teaser pics of my job today
The pressing out of the old bearing
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As the car sit right now
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Pushing out the CV shaft (which came out VERY easily)
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Undoing upper Ball joint
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Spindle Removed
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Formal DIY to come later. I gotta take more pics tomorrow during the reassembly and then put it all together. I'll attach link here. I'm gonna skip the BS about trying to pull the bearing out with the slide hammer. I took pics, but it didn't work. My car is pretty rust-free, and all the suspension came apart easy...but not this bearing. I needed the press...period. So i'll do the write-up on the basis of removing the spindle and pressing it out. Seems to be the most common way necessary
EDIT: I didn't realize I until I got the spindle out, but they are forged aluminum, not cast. They are much stronger than cast, but you don't want to use heat on them. That's why I didn't attempt to heat up the bearing and pull them out. Forged AL and high heat are a no-no
New bearing and hub installed...just waiting for me to put spindle back on car in the AM!
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Overall, not too hard, but I needed to have a press. Without it, no way this bearing was coming out. It took a little bit of force on the press to pop the bearing out, but it came. The disassembly was not that bad actually. I wish i had spent the $100 for a Harbor Freight press to keep on-site because I had to travel 1 hr each way to use this press at my work.
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I'm gonna put together a DIY...but here's a few teaser pics of my job today
The pressing out of the old bearing
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As the car sit right now
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Pushing out the CV shaft (which came out VERY easily)
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Undoing upper Ball joint
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Spindle Removed
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Formal DIY to come later. I gotta take more pics tomorrow during the reassembly and then put it all together. I'll attach link here. I'm gonna skip the BS about trying to pull the bearing out with the slide hammer. I took pics, but it didn't work. My car is pretty rust-free, and all the suspension came apart easy...but not this bearing. I needed the press...period. So i'll do the write-up on the basis of removing the spindle and pressing it out. Seems to be the most common way necessary
EDIT: I didn't realize I until I got the spindle out, but they are forged aluminum, not cast. They are much stronger than cast, but you don't want to use heat on them. That's why I didn't attempt to heat up the bearing and pull them out. Forged AL and high heat are a no-no
Last edited by Mustang5L5; 07-30-2011 at 08:51 PM.
#100
#101
Success! Started at 10am To put the spindle back on and done by 11am!! Reassembly is very easy! I still gotta do the other side, but its nowhere near as bad as the pass side was. I have some time so I can wait for cooler weather to do it. But it's so nice to be able to go over 40mph now and not feel vibration and hear a loud whirring noise!
Mychee, the new bearing did not slide right in. I cleaned up the spindle well with a powertool and put some high temp antiseize on first. The bearing went in halfway before it stopped. I just put the four bolts on the back and tightened it up evenly in a x-pattern and it drew it in. Was easy as pie. Having the spindle off made things SO MUCH more easier that when I do the drivers side next, I'll plan on taking it off and not even bother trying to take the bearing off on the car. It's not gonna come. Removing the spindle was very easy. There are some tricks, which I'll point out in my DIY.
All in all, fairly easy job...just seems intimidating. I did this alone, with no air tools. Only tools i rented (that i used) was the FWD axle remover tool and a pitman arm puller. Look for DIY coming this week
Mychee, the new bearing did not slide right in. I cleaned up the spindle well with a powertool and put some high temp antiseize on first. The bearing went in halfway before it stopped. I just put the four bolts on the back and tightened it up evenly in a x-pattern and it drew it in. Was easy as pie. Having the spindle off made things SO MUCH more easier that when I do the drivers side next, I'll plan on taking it off and not even bother trying to take the bearing off on the car. It's not gonna come. Removing the spindle was very easy. There are some tricks, which I'll point out in my DIY.
All in all, fairly easy job...just seems intimidating. I did this alone, with no air tools. Only tools i rented (that i used) was the FWD axle remover tool and a pitman arm puller. Look for DIY coming this week
Last edited by Mustang5L5; 07-31-2011 at 01:09 PM.
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