Big Brake Upgrade: Any suggestion?
#16
^ dont listen to him..that guy is from sunny Los Angeles. It's known that HPS's do not have a very good bite when cold (I too had HPS's and didn't repeat my purchase). OEM is a better choice in inclement weather. Here are some other first hand accounts:
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Originally Posted by Texasscout
I just ran 300 VERY HARD miles in a STEADY rain (Raging Bull Texas Stampede). HPS pads SUCKED *****. I love them otherwise, but in the rain, they sucked. Of all the pads I have had (05' OEM, EBC "green stuff", and Hawk HPS), I like the OEM pads the best. They have very little dust and had great cold/rain stopping power.
Quote:
Originally Posted by G35fromPA
It's been discussed here and in the Brakes and Suspension forum, but Hawk pads really aren't that great for the street. While they dust less than OEM and have better fade resistance, they don't bite very well. They will require more pedal effort than stock pads will. I have used Hawk HPS on a prior car and was not impressed; in fact they made the car scary in the rain and cold weather.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Texasscout
I just ran 300 VERY HARD miles in a STEADY rain (Raging Bull Texas Stampede). HPS pads SUCKED *****. I love them otherwise, but in the rain, they sucked. Of all the pads I have had (05' OEM, EBC "green stuff", and Hawk HPS), I like the OEM pads the best. They have very little dust and had great cold/rain stopping power.
Quote:
Originally Posted by G35fromPA
It's been discussed here and in the Brakes and Suspension forum, but Hawk pads really aren't that great for the street. While they dust less than OEM and have better fade resistance, they don't bite very well. They will require more pedal effort than stock pads will. I have used Hawk HPS on a prior car and was not impressed; in fact they made the car scary in the rain and cold weather.
#17
Well, I haven't decided yet. I guess it's high time I opened a thread in Canadian sub-forum. I tried searching there re: brakes, but no luck.
I bought a used/leased 07 G35 back in 2010. As you can see, I never felt the OEM pads brand new nor I knew if they were really OEM. But I wasn't happy with their performance from the very beginning (they were okay at that time). Now with these rotors/pads being just 1 year old, they are lot worse in rain compared to the OEM ones I had.
So, if you suggest OEM pads, should I go with OEM rotors as well?
[ I'm flying to Texas this Saturday, staying there for a week, so I can bring something with me. If not rotors, but pads for sure ]
I bought a used/leased 07 G35 back in 2010. As you can see, I never felt the OEM pads brand new nor I knew if they were really OEM. But I wasn't happy with their performance from the very beginning (they were okay at that time). Now with these rotors/pads being just 1 year old, they are lot worse in rain compared to the OEM ones I had.
So, if you suggest OEM pads, should I go with OEM rotors as well?
[ I'm flying to Texas this Saturday, staying there for a week, so I can bring something with me. If not rotors, but pads for sure ]
#19
Being said that, good brakes should still work in same way as they generate heat right from starting.
I'm still looking forward to some more ideas before I decide my mind on brakes.
#22
Hawk HPS work fine in cold weather. Just make sure the pads are bedded in properly.
HP+ may not be best for colder weather. They do need to heat up a bit.
And here are all the rotors offered from stoptech/centric for your car. The 125, 126,127, and 128 series are made of a High Carbon cast iron. Much better quality metal than what you get from the dealer
fronts:
C-TEK Standard Rotor 121.42080
High Carbon Rotor 125.42080
Power Slot Slotted Brake Rotor 126.42080SL
Power Slot Slotted Brake Rotor 126.42080SR
Power Slot Slotted Cryo Rotor 126.42080CSL
Power Slot Slotted Cryo Rotor 126.42080CSR
SportStop XDrilled & Slotted Rotor 127.42080L
SportStop XDrilled & Slotted Rotor 127.42080R
SportStop XDrilled Brake Rotor 128.42080L
SportStop XDrilled Brake Rotor 128.42080R
Rear:
C-TEK Standard Rotor 121.42088
Power Slot Slotted Brake Rotor 126.42088SL
Power Slot Slotted Brake Rotor 126.42088SR
Power Slot Slotted Cryo Rotor 126.42088CSL
Power Slot Slotted Cryo Rotor 126.42088CSR
SportStop XDrilled & Slotted Rotor 127.42088L
SportStop XDrilled & Slotted Rotor 127.42088R
SportStop XDrilled Brake Rotor 128.42088L
SportStop XDrilled Brake Rotor 128.42088R
HP+ may not be best for colder weather. They do need to heat up a bit.
And here are all the rotors offered from stoptech/centric for your car. The 125, 126,127, and 128 series are made of a High Carbon cast iron. Much better quality metal than what you get from the dealer
fronts:
C-TEK Standard Rotor 121.42080
High Carbon Rotor 125.42080
Power Slot Slotted Brake Rotor 126.42080SL
Power Slot Slotted Brake Rotor 126.42080SR
Power Slot Slotted Cryo Rotor 126.42080CSL
Power Slot Slotted Cryo Rotor 126.42080CSR
SportStop XDrilled & Slotted Rotor 127.42080L
SportStop XDrilled & Slotted Rotor 127.42080R
SportStop XDrilled Brake Rotor 128.42080L
SportStop XDrilled Brake Rotor 128.42080R
Rear:
C-TEK Standard Rotor 121.42088
Power Slot Slotted Brake Rotor 126.42088SL
Power Slot Slotted Brake Rotor 126.42088SR
Power Slot Slotted Cryo Rotor 126.42088CSL
Power Slot Slotted Cryo Rotor 126.42088CSR
SportStop XDrilled & Slotted Rotor 127.42088L
SportStop XDrilled & Slotted Rotor 127.42088R
SportStop XDrilled Brake Rotor 128.42088L
SportStop XDrilled Brake Rotor 128.42088R
#23
Originally Posted by Texasscout
I just ran 300 VERY HARD miles in a STEADY rain (Raging Bull Texas Stampede). HPS pads SUCKED *****. I love them otherwise, but in the rain, they sucked. Of all the pads I have had (05' OEM, EBC "green stuff", and Hawk HPS), I like the OEM pads the best. They have very little dust and had great cold/rain stopping power.
I just ran 300 VERY HARD miles in a STEADY rain (Raging Bull Texas Stampede). HPS pads SUCKED *****. I love them otherwise, but in the rain, they sucked. Of all the pads I have had (05' OEM, EBC "green stuff", and Hawk HPS), I like the OEM pads the best. They have very little dust and had great cold/rain stopping power.
#24
A lot of what you may be looking for in terms of braking might not actually be the braking power. The brake feel has a lot to do with the compress-ability of the system. Flushing your fluid and getting rock hard brake pads would probably help with the pad feel. BBK probably won't help with your feel if that is what you are looking for.
BBK also won't do anything for you in lower temperature braking.
Not much experience in cold, but again, many people across many forums don't seem to like the HPS in the cold. Most of the people who like them live in cali where they think cold braking means 50 degrees F.
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