Springs!?!?
ehhh idk about that. I agree that with a quality set of springs and shocks you can achieve great performance and ride quality, but I have never ever seen at a track day (and I attend many) a spring/shock combination that offers what you can achieve with a good quality coilover setup. And i'm not talking BC or Megan... And realistically if you're going to spend the cash for the best of the best spring/shocks then why not just spend the money on coilovers anyway and get the full adjustability too?
I just dont think its a fair fight. But I like to be proven wrong.
I think the first thing that needs to be figured out is what the OP in!tends on doing with the car to begin with and what kind of budget he has.
I just dont think its a fair fight. But I like to be proven wrong.
I think the first thing that needs to be figured out is what the OP in!tends on doing with the car to begin with and what kind of budget he has.
Gary
when you start talking about real performance, the problem is spring rate is related to ride height, and shock valving is related to spring rates, so adjustable height coilovers do you no good, unless you have run the shocks on a shock dyno and know what preselected settings to use with which set of springs, or a professional driver that can give accurate feedback about the shock settings. And even then what you would be doing is swapping springs and bumpstops when you want to change your ride height.
That said, I think something needs to be said about the difference between real track-ready performance oriented coilovers and the coilovers you buy to slam and be "stanced". Sure a good spring/shock combo will compete with the average stance/BC coilovers but put them up against a track-minded setup such as Endless Zeal super-functions? I just find it a little hard to believe.
You drive the car to the track? What if something major breaks... how do you get home lol. And from everything else I have collected here you have to make a choice. Pure blissful performance or low and for looks?
a lot of people drive their car to the track. I do, but mine is basically stock. unless you start messing with the engine, which is usually the last thing people do for a track car, new cars are pretty reliable, and very few people have an issue.
And as far as breaking anything else or crashing, I dont drift or autoX the G. I have an Rx7 for beating to hell and back. The G mostly resides on the road course. Occasionally the drag strip, but a fairly stock G is not at all impressive in a straight line so I usually dont bother.
Anywho that got kinda off topic. OP, what do you intend on doing with the car? just a daily that you want to slam? track days? How much do you want to spend?
My car is a daily and I probably won't be doing too much modding, let alone tracking. I want to lower mostly for aesthetics however I don't want to lose ride comfort nor do I want less performance than stock. I have reconsidered and I think 1"-2" should be enough to get rid of that huge fender gap. I'm also getting stock 19" rays to replace my stock 18". I get new hankook tires for $35 each so I don't know if a camber kit would be worth it if I just stay 1" below stock height.
My car is a daily and I probably won't be doing too much modding, let alone tracking. I want to lower mostly for aesthetics however I don't want to lose ride comfort nor do I want less performance than stock. I have reconsidered and I think 1"-2" should be enough to get rid of that huge fender gap. I'm also getting stock 19" rays to replace my stock 18". I get new hankook tires for $35 each so I don't know if a camber kit would be worth it if I just stay 1" below stock height.

If you buy cheap tires a camber kit is really more of a luxury for street application. A lot of people just drop their cars and leave the camber as is. Especially if they go with wide aftermarket wheel. Yea its going to eat up your tires faster, but its not like you're gonna be replacing tires every month. I've had a lot of decently cambered cars and I never had a problem getting a set of tires to last an entire year. And thats driving fairly hard also. But I buy used tires so if I have to replace them in 2 or 3 months its a moot point. If you have hook ups then its even cheaper. I have access to a tire changer/balancer when I need it so All I have to do is source decent used tires. Probably spend less on tires in 5 years than most people do buying one single set of new tires.
If you buy cheap tires a camber kit is really more of a luxury for street application. A lot of people just drop their cars and leave the camber as is. Especially if they go with wide aftermarket wheel. Yea its going to eat up your tires faster, but its not like you're gonna be replacing tires every month. I've had a lot of decently cambered cars and I never had a problem getting a set of tires to last an entire year. And thats driving fairly hard also. But I buy used tires so if I have to replace them in 2 or 3 months its a moot point. If you have hook ups then its even cheaper. I have access to a tire changer/balancer when I need it so All I have to do is source decent used tires. Probably spend less on tires in 5 years than most people do buying one single set of new tires.
$150? I was basing my logic off of the $1000+ pricetag GaryC put on camber kit/install. $150 is cheap, as long as OP can install them himself. And perform and alignment.
All I'm saying is used tires are a cheap alternative. Its not "cheaping out" its just using my resources. I Spend ~$50 on tires a year for the rear. Install and balance them myself, and drive the car. I could even make those last another year if I flipped them on the wheel but I prefer to just burn them off at the end of the year...
All I'm saying is used tires are a cheap alternative. Its not "cheaping out" its just using my resources. I Spend ~$50 on tires a year for the rear. Install and balance them myself, and drive the car. I could even make those last another year if I flipped them on the wheel but I prefer to just burn them off at the end of the year...
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