Anyone try Truhart camber kits?
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Yeah they do seem fairly new although I have heard from a couple people using rears for a couple years with no problems but I've read that these only alow for +1.3 camber on each side so if you are going real low then you would need to look into something that alows a little more. I already have the SPC rear camber kit but wanting to hear from someone using these truharts in the front. Wondering if they are track reliable & alow correction for a 1.5 in drop
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Badazzg, there are two brands of camber kits that we know work very well. Both are made well and allow enough adjustment to get your alignment back to OE specs. SPL or SPC available from our Marketplace under vendor suspension. Why mess with an unproven product when we know what works? My first purchase of a camber kit was a failure because it didn't offer enough adjustment, stick with what we know gets the job done!
Gary
Gary
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Badazzg, there are two brands of camber kits that we know work very well. Both are made well and allow enough adjustment to get your alignment back to OE specs. SPL or SPC available from our Marketplace under vendor suspension. Why mess with an unproven product when we know what works? My first purchase of a camber kit was a failure because it didn't offer enough adjustment, stick with what we know gets the job done!
Gary
Gary
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Gary
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Half the price...first red flag! No cars have flipped over but have you heard from any owner that they offer enough adjustment to get to OE specs? If your Truhart a-arms were a well made quality item they'd be around the same price as the product previous members have suggested. Miko8, buy and install your Truhart a-arms and let us know where your alignment came in and how long those front tires lasted! You be the first one to try an unproven product that costs half the price of the good stuff...let us know!
Gary
Gary
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Miko8,
Seems like you want to objectively evaluate the product. Then let's do that. Can you give us some criteria that you deem appropriate when evaluating an aftermarket suspension arm?
And, someone saying the typical "I've used this for xxx length of time and no issue" honestly means nothing.
Seems like you want to objectively evaluate the product. Then let's do that. Can you give us some criteria that you deem appropriate when evaluating an aftermarket suspension arm?
And, someone saying the typical "I've used this for xxx length of time and no issue" honestly means nothing.
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Miko8,
Seems like you want to objectively evaluate the product. Then let's do that. Can you give us some criteria that you deem appropriate when evaluating an aftermarket suspension arm?
And, someone saying the typical "I've used this for xxx length of time and no issue" honestly means nothing.
Seems like you want to objectively evaluate the product. Then let's do that. Can you give us some criteria that you deem appropriate when evaluating an aftermarket suspension arm?
And, someone saying the typical "I've used this for xxx length of time and no issue" honestly means nothing.
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-Please elaborate on "build quality"...are you looking at the material? welds (if any)?
-Bushings.....what type of bushings do you prefer? what's your usage and concern with bushings?
-Ride quality....there are no difference across different brand arms except for NVH. Changing a single pair won't make big enough difference especially on a G. Changing all arms with metal bushings will noticeably increase NVH, and perhaps a little more feel toward road vibration.
You mention terms like "Price Margining doesn't mean quality", insinuating SPC and SPL charge higher prices due to "well known" and "supply and demand"...You've said all these economic terms, but not once did you 1) prove these theories in this specific case and 2) compare the actual physical products from SPC and SPL, not even based on your own criteria. Doesn't that contradict with the objectivity you are trying to portrait?
I took issue with you sounding objective, but not do any homework yourself. I have no issue with one wanting to research and use these arms. But to be objective, you need more than throwing business terms around.
Edit: Even just asking more in depth questions is more contributive than asking blanket question and throwing out claims without basis. And if you have actually researched SPC vs SPL, that would've taught you an important thing or two about these Truhart arms. Best of luck. I challenge you to offer "contributive information".
-Bushings.....what type of bushings do you prefer? what's your usage and concern with bushings?
-Ride quality....there are no difference across different brand arms except for NVH. Changing a single pair won't make big enough difference especially on a G. Changing all arms with metal bushings will noticeably increase NVH, and perhaps a little more feel toward road vibration.
You mention terms like "Price Margining doesn't mean quality", insinuating SPC and SPL charge higher prices due to "well known" and "supply and demand"...You've said all these economic terms, but not once did you 1) prove these theories in this specific case and 2) compare the actual physical products from SPC and SPL, not even based on your own criteria. Doesn't that contradict with the objectivity you are trying to portrait?
I took issue with you sounding objective, but not do any homework yourself. I have no issue with one wanting to research and use these arms. But to be objective, you need more than throwing business terms around.
Edit: Even just asking more in depth questions is more contributive than asking blanket question and throwing out claims without basis. And if you have actually researched SPC vs SPL, that would've taught you an important thing or two about these Truhart arms. Best of luck. I challenge you to offer "contributive information".
Last edited by cv129; 06-03-2016 at 10:18 AM.
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-Please elaborate on "build quality"...are you looking at the material? welds (if any)?
-Bushings.....what type of bushings do you prefer? what's your usage and concern with bushings?
-Ride quality....there are no difference across different brand arms except for NVH. Changing a single pair won't make big enough difference especially on a G. Changing all arms with metal bushings will noticeably increase NVH, and perhaps a little more feel toward road vibration.
You mention terms like "Price Margining doesn't mean quality", insinuating SPC and SPL charge higher prices due to "well known" and "supply and demand"...You've said all these economic terms, but not once did you 1) prove these theories in this specific case and 2) compare the actual physical products from SPC and SPL, not even based on your own criteria. Doesn't that contradict with the objectivity you are trying to portrait?
I took issue with you sounding objective, but not do any homework yourself. I have no issue with one wanting to research and use these arms. But to be objective, you need more than throwing business terms around.
Edit: Even just asking more in depth questions is more contributive than asking blanket question and throwing out claims without basis. And if you have actually researched SPC vs SPL, that would've taught you an important thing or two about these Truhart arms. Best of luck. I challenge you to offer "contributive information".
-Bushings.....what type of bushings do you prefer? what's your usage and concern with bushings?
-Ride quality....there are no difference across different brand arms except for NVH. Changing a single pair won't make big enough difference especially on a G. Changing all arms with metal bushings will noticeably increase NVH, and perhaps a little more feel toward road vibration.
You mention terms like "Price Margining doesn't mean quality", insinuating SPC and SPL charge higher prices due to "well known" and "supply and demand"...You've said all these economic terms, but not once did you 1) prove these theories in this specific case and 2) compare the actual physical products from SPC and SPL, not even based on your own criteria. Doesn't that contradict with the objectivity you are trying to portrait?
I took issue with you sounding objective, but not do any homework yourself. I have no issue with one wanting to research and use these arms. But to be objective, you need more than throwing business terms around.
Edit: Even just asking more in depth questions is more contributive than asking blanket question and throwing out claims without basis. And if you have actually researched SPC vs SPL, that would've taught you an important thing or two about these Truhart arms. Best of luck. I challenge you to offer "contributive information".
Well long story short My kinetix camber kit driver side traction bar just broke off at the weld. I was not racing or acting in a irresponsible in anyway.I save that for the track. I was going 40 thank goodness I wasnt on the freeway. I went into a spin hit a curb then a tree. Pretty bad.
here are a couple pics from my phone
mass damage
look at the back tire that traction bar just broke off.
Im posting this because I have read that this kit does this and since I experiened it and could have hurt or even killed someone I dont recommend anyone get this product and if you have it on your car get it off. I posted in a earlier thread how great this kit is, I change my mind!
here are a couple pics from my phone
mass damage
look at the back tire that traction bar just broke off.
Im posting this because I have read that this kit does this and since I experiened it and could have hurt or even killed someone I dont recommend anyone get this product and if you have it on your car get it off. I posted in a earlier thread how great this kit is, I change my mind!
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Nice, now you are talking. I was hoping you would lead to this so I don't have to.
I have seen that happened on a 370z. I have seen another brand (but looks very similar to SPC) arm snapped on a G35. Both rear camber arms. Contributing factors were likely the combination of mimicking the OEM design (arm isn't straight, has a slight kink to it just like OEM) and contamination during production.
I've also seen an OEM front upright snapped (370z). Nobody knows the real culprit, but most likely contamination in the manufacturing process again.
Leading to my first point here: how can one gain assurance that the metal didn't get contaminated beyond tolerance during the production process? Answer is you can't. Certainly not through the typical end users "reviews".
When suspension arm fails, your car drops itself on the 50+ pounds of rotational mass going at xxx mph...the saving one gains doesn't remotely cover the tow truck service.
The best safe guard is actually to buy products with proven history being punished in high stress environment. Leading me to my second point.
My second point here: putting SPC aside...you've included suggestion for SPL here being "Cliché" and insinuated it's pricing doesn't equate the quality advertised. Politely put, that's baseless. The very same SPL parts being retailed are being used on GrandAm cars. Slick tires + big brakes + better aero = huge grip and high stress to suspension arms. Personally speaking, I was riding in a car with full sets of SPL arms. Driver lost control, car slid and jumped two curbs at angle and around 40mph. But guess what? Alignment remained the same and no adjustments needed when he visited the shop for immediate check up right after the accident.
Response like these, as well as the last couple quotes, are just passive aggressively condescending. You acted like you have insight to the businesses, but you don't. You wanted to be a pioneer in finding cheaper alternative, then best thing for you to do is call TruHart and find more details yourself. Throwing business terms around doesn't make you sound any smarter.
I have seen that happened on a 370z. I have seen another brand (but looks very similar to SPC) arm snapped on a G35. Both rear camber arms. Contributing factors were likely the combination of mimicking the OEM design (arm isn't straight, has a slight kink to it just like OEM) and contamination during production.
I've also seen an OEM front upright snapped (370z). Nobody knows the real culprit, but most likely contamination in the manufacturing process again.
Leading to my first point here: how can one gain assurance that the metal didn't get contaminated beyond tolerance during the production process? Answer is you can't. Certainly not through the typical end users "reviews".
When suspension arm fails, your car drops itself on the 50+ pounds of rotational mass going at xxx mph...the saving one gains doesn't remotely cover the tow truck service.
The best safe guard is actually to buy products with proven history being punished in high stress environment. Leading me to my second point.
Response like these, as well as the last couple quotes, are just passive aggressively condescending. You acted like you have insight to the businesses, but you don't. You wanted to be a pioneer in finding cheaper alternative, then best thing for you to do is call TruHart and find more details yourself. Throwing business terms around doesn't make you sound any smarter.
Last edited by cv129; 06-05-2016 at 01:15 PM.
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