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Old Nov 29, 2006 | 08:53 PM
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Here in Saint John, NB, there has not been one bar that has gone out of business since the smoking ban back in 2004. In fact, alot of my friends started going out to bars/pubs/restaurants becuase they no longer had to worry about enhaling second hand smoke. Also, I don't think I have ever seen one effective smoking section in a public place.
Maybe not out of business but certainly their profits decreased. I am in the business believe me it is a fact. That being said it does come back as it did over the last few years in BC but it does take about 2 - 3 years.....

Again don't & never did smoke.
 
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Old Nov 29, 2006 | 08:53 PM
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Actually smoking in restaurants and bars has been banned here for a couple of years now too. The ban now includes public places like outdoors cafes, offices, shopping malls.

This is a big issue with me too Shane and I'm pleased it's making further progress.
Oh ok, the article in the Herald never mentioned that. Glad to hear that you guys have had the ban for a couple of years now like us.
 
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Old Nov 29, 2006 | 08:54 PM
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we had the law before were the smoking section had to be sealed off, with iaq regulations that were pretty strict. it was very effective here. bars wont go out of business, but watch how slow they get in the winter. it sucks when the leafs and ottawa are playing and theres 3 people in the bar where there used to be 100
 
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Old Nov 29, 2006 | 08:59 PM
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Maybe not out of business but certainly their profits decreased. I am in the business believe me it is a fact. That being said it does come back as it did over the last few years in BC but it does take about 2 - 3 years.....

Again don't & never did smoke.
That's a shame it has hurt some business owners, but health is more important than profits IMO. But if you want to talk money, us non smokers could argue the fact that we pay for the added health care required to treat illnesses that are associated with smoking.
 
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Old Nov 29, 2006 | 09:03 PM
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Oh ok, the article in the Herald never mentioned that. Glad to hear that you guys have had the ban for a couple of years now like us.

I think it's also a case of actually enforcing it now too.
 
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Old Nov 29, 2006 | 09:04 PM
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thats like saying i pay a cops salary so dont give me a ticket. you need a compromise. Smoing and drinking go together for many people whether its healthy or not. the sealed off room was great. no one is saying profits over health, or smokers over non smokers, but it seems as though many non smokers are just being **** disturbers and dont care about the facts
 
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Old Nov 29, 2006 | 09:10 PM
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thats like saying i pay a cops salary so dont give me a ticket. you need a compromise. Smoing and drinking go together for many people whether its healthy or not. the sealed off room was great. no one is saying profits over health, or smokers over non smokers, but it seems as though many non smokers are just being **** disturbers and dont care about the facts
Why should I have to compromise the health of my lungs becuase you want to smoke? Do you really think that every bar and restaurant is going to build a sealed off room for smokers? It's not gonna happen.
 
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Old Nov 29, 2006 | 09:14 PM
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It did happen in toronto. now you see useless glass rooms here everywhere.
 
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Old Nov 29, 2006 | 09:15 PM
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It did happen in toronto. now you see useless glass rooms here everywhere.
Why are they useless? Do they not work well?
 
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Old Nov 29, 2006 | 09:16 PM
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go outside if you cant take the smoke. Want to cut the music next to save your ears?
 
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Old Nov 29, 2006 | 09:16 PM
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because smoking is banned inside everywhere. they did work very well
 
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Old Nov 29, 2006 | 09:20 PM
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go outside if you cant take the smoke. Want to cut the music next to save your ears?



Whatever, I was hoping this thread would stay turn this way, but I guess I was wrong.
 
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Old Nov 29, 2006 | 09:24 PM
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Originally Posted by burns420
thats like saying i pay a cops salary so dont give me a ticket. you need a compromise. Smoing and drinking go together for many people whether its healthy or not. the sealed off room was great. no one is saying profits over health, or smokers over non smokers, but it seems as though many non smokers are just being **** disturbers and dont care about the facts
I realize that this is a very sensitive subject....
But your analogy isn't even close to being the same thing.
 
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Old Nov 29, 2006 | 09:26 PM
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It did happen in toronto. now you see useless glass rooms here everywhere.
That's because the glass rooms didn't work.
There's no such thing as a *sealed* room.
 
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Old Nov 29, 2006 | 09:33 PM
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the glass rooms did work, but the bill was already passed. i dont even smoke anymore, not for 2 years and i still say its dumb. the glass room made everyone happy. And it was as sealed as you could get, and i didnt see one without proper ventilation.
 
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