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Old Sep 26, 2008 | 06:48 PM
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Dealership wont warranty my clutch..now what?

Soo...2005 g35c MT....about 1-2 months ago i had a pedal sticking issue...it would basically just sit there and spin as the pedal was stuck on the floor.you can smell the clutch burning...all you had to do was launch the car semi aggressively or shift down as if you getting on the highway

i took it in and they said they replaced a clutch position sensor.

then about a 3 weeks ago, im noticing the clutch pedal is sticking again, not so much often and not as far down as the rest. Nothing id take in until alittle later...then last week the clutch starts slipping...then im driving along and the pedal gets stuck...

This time i take it in and tell them its ****ing up again. They have it for 2 days and then call me today and say, "we couldnt get the pedal to stick but your clutch is out and will need to be replaced..its going to be $2,200" I said, "WTF, the pedal is sticking and roasting the clutch...its a lemon, it was sticking last month go check the records.."

"Sir, im showing that they couldnt get it to stick there either...and all they did was lub it up a bit." at this point im interested in why they told me they replaced a clutch position sensor or some bull****.

My attorney said it should be covered and will more than gladly storm in there...but i really dont want to file a lawsuit with the only infiniti dealership around....

what do you guys think? whats actual cost on some clutches?

the clutch doesnt stick as much..and its hard to replicate after the 1st time when they said they fixed it...i wonder if i should just grab a camera with me and try to film it the next time it does it.
 
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Old Sep 26, 2008 | 11:49 PM
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well the clutch itself isnt under warranty.. make sense.. but on the other hand.. they shouldnt throw u out like that. u dont need a dealership that's gonna push u around... even if it is the only one around. get ur lawyer to go in there and slap a couple folks. the CHEAPEST ive ever seen sumone put their clutch on and that's buying and installing was 1k. *exedy clutch, basically the same as a oem one* and he had it installed at a shop where his friend worked.. so that's with a hook up etc etc. trust me.. get the big guns out and show em u mean business. that way next time they know who their fokin with. U can always go back n get something else serviced after u sue them.. they just wont like u very much lol
 
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Old Sep 26, 2008 | 11:51 PM
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clutch position sensor? wtf? they should have replaced your clutch slave cylinder. I had the same exact problem, and when the stealership replaced my clutch slave cylinder I had no problem with the clutch pedal sticking. I say SUE THEIR ***!
 
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Old Sep 27, 2008 | 01:04 AM
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The only clutch I've seen warrantied, well... lets just say that the disk fell apart.

The clutch is a wear and tear item. It is warrantied in the same way tires are warrantied. If you wear your tires out in 8k miles instead of 32k miles.... its usually the way you drive.
 
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Old Sep 27, 2008 | 01:09 AM
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Buy a new clutch nah I kid kid IDK waht to tell you
 
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Old Sep 27, 2008 | 01:20 AM
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I had the same issue with my Z, the pedal would stick to the floor. This
happened twice in 125K miles and the only fix is replacing the clutch hydraulic
cylinder. The rubber plunger inside wear out and allows fluid to pass and
you lose pressure. It's kinda scarey the first time it happens and it sure
gets your attention. Had the dealership fixed the problem in the first place
you wouldn't have lost your clutch!
Gary
 
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Old Sep 27, 2008 | 02:28 AM
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thats exactly what i say!! i donno...ill update you on what my lawyer says...

how can i find out what they did on the first one without asking the same guy? could i simply take it to another dealership maybe??
 
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Old Sep 28, 2008 | 08:47 PM
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even if the slave cylinder were bad, it would not cause the clutch to slip. You may have had a bad slave cylinder, and a slipping clutch. The clutch is a wear item. It is not covered under warranty. Your attorney does not know what he is talking about. If you look at what the warranty covers, im pretty damn sure that it states clearly that the CLUTCH IS NOT COVERED! There have been instances when the dealership will replace a clutch disc free of charge, say if your throwout bearing went bad, or replacement of a transmission under warranty, just for the hell of it, since they are already in there, but a slave cylinder is outside the bellhousing. If you were the dealership, would you pay your technicians $30 an hour to replace something for free that you are not liable for fixing? I sure as hell wouldent. Cars require regular maintenance(including clutches) If you cant stomach that, maybe you should get a bike. Why dont you just replace the clutch yourself? Its about a 5 hour job start to finish. All you have to do is buy a decent clutch(i think i had about $260 in mine) and have your flywheel resurfaced.
 
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Old Sep 28, 2008 | 10:04 PM
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1.) the pedal sticking causes you the plates to not fully be engaged...it roasted my clutch several times prior to the first time i took it in
2.) yes, i understand, but i have hardly drove this car hard and the owners prior were an older couple...it should last longer than 60K miles
3.) dealerships are paid by the Factory.

not the point, my family owns a Repair Shop, i bought this car 2 months ago and have taken it into warranty 3 times now...

at least they replaced my gastank on the last visit.

but as you can see from other post, if the clutch sticks, its going to sit there and tear away the plate surface. seems like a defective part that has caused accelerated clutch wear
 
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Old Sep 29, 2008 | 08:52 AM
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Originally Posted by caper
1.) the pedal sticking causes you the plates to not fully be engaged...it roasted my clutch several times prior to the first time i took it in
2.) yes, i understand, but i have hardly drove this car hard and the owners prior were an older couple...it should last longer than 60K miles
3.) dealerships are paid by the Factory.

not the point, my family owns a Repair Shop, i bought this car 2 months ago and have taken it into warranty 3 times now...

at least they replaced my gastank on the last visit.

but as you can see from other post, if the clutch sticks, its going to sit there and tear away the plate surface. seems like a defective part that has caused accelerated clutch wear
BTW, i replaced my clutch at 60k, and i know for a fact that the clutch was replaced once at around 32k when infiniti put a new tranny in it.(previous owner obviously abused the car) That goes to prove that everyones driving style is different, and you can wear out a clutch pretty quick, old or young.

Im sorry, but a hydraulic clutch system just doesnt work that way, It just doesnt stick like that. The pressure plate has gobs of spring pressure on it. It will retract the pedal, and disengage the clutch.(unless your foot was keeping it from coming up) maybe you were trying to impress your friends with a big smoky burnout, and you burned the already weak clutch out? You need to understand how warrantys work, infiniti may pay for some of the costs, but the dealer ultimately eats a lot of things that infinity does not cover. Warranty work is always at a reduced labor rate, and the parts are at cost. If your family owns a repair facility, why not just replace the clutch?
 

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Old Sep 29, 2008 | 09:11 AM
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take a look at this post...it is EXACTLY what im going thru on the other forums...

http://www.6mt.net/forum/g35-coupe/2...tml#post802121

its the fact of the matter that it is defective. Why dont i just replace the engine as well. it isnt about money, its about apending 20+ grand on a car that has something wrong every week. I happen to be in a sling from an accident so i can assure you this is just a commuting car. Ive been in the sling since ive purchased the car. And i am not the only one with this problem...When i get the car back today, i will have a camera to video tape what it is doing. I assure you it does stick at the very bottom at the very bottom on the floor, and also half way.

warranties so far
1.) outside colored trim fell off and dangled on road..
2.) Navi screen wouldnt stay up
3.) gas tank flapper malifuctioned and wouldnt allow pumping of gas
4.) pedal sticking
 
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Old Sep 29, 2008 | 09:26 AM
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also...im afraid the pedal issue is still not fixed and I dont want it to eat up another clutch
 
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Old Sep 29, 2008 | 09:42 AM
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i will agree with the people on the other forum. Your throwout bearing could be getting stuck on the input shaft flange, but that will most likely be from overheating your clutch multiple times, but if that were the case, you would probably hear the throwout bearing making noise, because the bearing would be shot. the only other thing i could think of that would cause this is maybe something like a burr, or some contamination in the hydraulic fluid in the bore of the master cylinder, or slave cylinder. If the dealer cannot replicate the problem, you are screwed, and now with the clutch being out, that has to be fixed first.

You were extremely lucky having the trim replaced, since the car is used, and the car could have had some previous body work that you dont know about. The trimwork could have been installed improperly.
 
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Old Sep 29, 2008 | 10:49 AM
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they quoted me a new throwout bearing, rear main seal and clutch package...I will check for overheating of the clutch by its color...then again, there is no way you could tell this now since it is slipping and probably heating up as it slips continuously.
 
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Old Sep 29, 2008 | 11:06 AM
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and there is a noise coming from underneath...its almost a rattling noise when i turn off the car...but only occurs every 3rd-4th time you shut the car off....it isnt consistant.
 
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