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AT to MT swap list. please help

Old Nov 18, 2009 | 04:53 PM
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Post AT to MT swap list. please help

in the next year I plan on accommodating parts to change my car from 03 AT sedan to 6MT.

I just have some questions and want to make sure I am on the right track....

So far for parts :
Manual transmission CD009
( Would the 350z, G35 Coupe CD009 tranny work on the sedan proper?)
Drive Shaft
( Again could I used 350z or G35 coupe ?)
Engine ECU / Wiring Harness
( Again could I used 350z or G35 coupe ?)
Clutch pedal, Clutch disk, Flywheel
Clutch Mastery cylinder
Shifter
Differential? does this have anything that needs changed?
Also I know I need the interior console etc, but can I keep my current dash ?

From what I have read I am going to have to use a plasma cutter in order to fit this proper? Can anyone inform me on what needs to be cut? thanks.

I just want to see what I am up against. any help is appreciated!
 
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Old Nov 18, 2009 | 04:58 PM
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I think it would cost about 10k, unless your doing all the work your self. If I remember a thread I read a bit ago, Good luck!
 
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Old Nov 18, 2009 | 05:03 PM
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i would only do this if u have alot of custom work done to your g already, if not it will be cheaper to buy a new one and sell the old one
 
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Old Nov 18, 2009 | 06:07 PM
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All you need is your Title to sign yours off and an ID and loan to complete your swap.
 
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Old Nov 18, 2009 | 09:38 PM
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thescreensavers - more like 3 to 4 grand if I get used parts and do it myself.. maybe less when I have looked up prices.

lets not do all this stupid comment ****. Keep it productive. I understand selling it and picking up an MT. What on earth is the fun in that . Plus I have to pay about a grand in taxes and fees . Plus My car is going to be about 1 or 2 grand cheaper then a MT. The logic is just to convert mine. 3K in lost in just selling it for someone used car that could of be beat on .....

/rant sorry

if you have never seen my car... its not going to be that easy to sell.


Now can anyone help me out!
 

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Old Dec 1, 2009 | 01:40 AM
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Lets get this list going.

-Manual transmission
-Transmission mount
-Shifter
-Shifter Trim
-Drive shaft
-Clutch
-Flywheel
-Pressure plate
-Clutch Mastery cylinder w/reservoir
-Clutch slave
-Clutch entire tubing
-Clutch pedal
-Brake Pedal
-Entire Engine harness - how important is this?
-Engine ECU you could do a technosquare reflash
-Interior Center Console
-Center Console Flooring
-Speedometer/ Gauge Cluster not really needed.
-VLSD Rear Final Drive Differential
 
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Old Dec 1, 2009 | 03:39 AM
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Originally Posted by DEMoLITIoN
Lets get this list going.

-Manual transmission
-Transmission mount
-Shifter
-Shifter Trim
-Drive shaft
-Clutch
-Flywheel
-Pressure plate
-Clutch Mastery cylinder w/reservoir
-Clutch slave
-Clutch entire tubing
-Clutch pedal
-Brake Pedal
-Entire Engine harness - how important is this?
-Engine ECU you could do a technosquare reflash
-Interior Center Console
-Center Console Flooring
-Speedometer/ Gauge Cluster not really needed.
-VLSD Rear Final Drive Differential
Very helpful! What pb team are you on?

Also how much is technosquare reflash? They are very local to me.

Does the whole differential need changed out?
 
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Old Dec 4, 2009 | 05:30 PM
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I'm still doing more research on this. I am either taking my car to the shop Pharm D did or I am doing the swap in my buddies shop (most likely). Pharm did the technosquare reflash but im not sure weather u need the engine harness or not. My buddy said the only thing you will miss out on is the reverse switch, which will actually be very easy to wire up. The reflash is about $120. Doesn't really need to be switched out. the first parts list was from the z forum.

Pharms Parts list
-Transmission
-Transmission mount
-Shifter
-Shifter Trim
-Drive shaft
-Clutch disk
-Flywheel
-Pressure plate
-ebrake and ebrake wire
-Clutch Mastery cylinder w/reservoir
-Clutch slave
-Clutch entire tubing
-Clutch pedal
-Brake Pedal
-Engine ECU (or reuse your AT one and get it reflashed)
-Interior Center Console
-Speedometer/ Gauge Cluster (u can still use your AT one... the AT part will be blank once u install the 6mt)



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Old Dec 4, 2009 | 05:53 PM
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I did a swap on a Integra. It was easy. Not sure about the G though.

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You may need a new tranny mount because the Manual transmission may not BOLT onto the current mounting points.

Also, the engine wire harness will have a few extra wires hanging around after the swap.

You can keep the current clusters, but I would change it out to make it complete. Who wants to see P R N D L on there? lol

Also in the Integra, there was a huge gap near the shifter after I removed teh automatic shifter. Heat and noise can seep in so I had to weld a 2x3 plate to cover the gap. Then wrap the area with Dynamat and then put the center console over it. Just to make it complete and sound/heat proof.

I took me a friend 2 days to do everything right. The difference was night and day. The car felt brand new and a lot more fun to drive.

The only problem was, things were leaking and bolts were coming off from the mickey mouse work we did. We tighten everything up and the car is still running strong according to the guy I sold it to.

Most of my parts were off ebay. The only parts I bought new were the clutch, flywheel, the mounts, hydraulic lines, and the misc bolts...
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Old Dec 4, 2009 | 06:05 PM
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Originally Posted by jibberjabbers
I did a swap on a Integra. It was easy. Not sure about the G though.

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You may need a new tranny mount because the Manual transmission may not BOLT onto the current mounting points. Need MT Mount

Also, the engine wire harness will have a few extra wires hanging around after the swap.

You can keep the current clusters, but I would change it out to make it complete. Who wants to see P R N D L on there? lol The G35 has a small led screen

Also in the Integra, there was a huge gap near the shifter after I removed teh automatic shifter. Heat and noise can seep in so I had to weld a 2x3 plate to cover the gap. Then wrap the area with Dynamat and then put the center console over it. Just to make it complete and sound/heat proof.

I took me a friend 2 days to do everything right. The difference was night and day. The car felt brand new and a lot more fun to drive.

The only problem was, things were leaking and bolts were coming off from the mickey mouse work we did. We tighten everything up and the car is still running strong according to the guy I sold it to.

Most of my parts were off ebay. The only parts I bought new were the clutch, flywheel, the mounts, hydraulic lines, and the misc bolts...
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Old Dec 27, 2009 | 04:36 PM
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hey demolition when are you going to do this and what's your total bill? I'd like to do it if it's not too hard
 
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Old Dec 28, 2009 | 11:48 PM
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You won't need the Engine wiring harness unless your 5AT is one of the "doggy door" versions. If that is the case, you will need the wiring harness and the ECU.

You will probably need the TCU as well, I think its different for 5AT & 6MT.
 
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Old Jan 2, 2010 | 05:30 PM
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i too am looking into doing this.......anyone know of any shops up in norcal that have done this yet?
 
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Old Jan 10, 2010 | 11:41 PM
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hey demolition when are you going to do this and what's your total bill? I'd like to do it if it's not too hard
Most likely @scott's if he's down.

Originally Posted by Tollboothwilley
You won't need the Engine wiring harness unless your 5AT is one of the "doggy door" versions. If that is the case, you will need the wiring harness and the ECU.

You will probably need the TCU as well, I think its different for 5AT & 6MT.
This most likely wont work with early sedans.

Transmission control or traction control? the TCM shouldn't be require like in most MT swaps.
 
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Old Jan 11, 2010 | 09:14 PM
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Of course you could do a swap to early sedans...just would have to change out a few extra things.
 
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