Mobil 1 Oil Users # 2
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#34
And your interest in this thread is??? Oh that's right. None. Why don't you go back to being a lemming and stop posting?
Great laughing at me. Cool. You da man. Glad you could make your own day by posting some nimrod statement.
Great laughing at me. Cool. You da man. Glad you could make your own day by posting some nimrod statement.
Originally Posted by Nismo G
Because you are the one asking all the questions!!! If you have so many and you don't believe what Steve is saying, then call mobil 1.
I was laughing at you by the way...
-Sean
I was laughing at you by the way...
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-Sean
#35
Originally Posted by Jeff92se
Okay, which company representatives are there? Even by the SLIM chance that your complete GUESS about this is true, they post the results from their anyalysis. Which is performed by unbiased 3rd party.
For someone that works so hard to find "facts", you sure are quick to assume in order to discredit.
Well okay, which oil companies and brands do they biased toward?
For someone that works so hard to find "facts", you sure are quick to assume in order to discredit.
Well okay, which oil companies and brands do they biased toward?
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#36
Okay, I'll play. Then post up some links that prove they are biased toward a particular oil or brand when the 3rd party data indicates otherwise.
Originally Posted by HiTechOilCo
Jeff, it's not a guess at all. It's from experience in this business for almost 20years and 15 years on the Internet. I refuse to name names and throw rocks. I will not stoop to their level.
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#37
Originally Posted by Jeff92se
And your interest in this thread is??? Oh that's right. None. Why don't you go back to being a lemming and stop posting?
Great laughing at me. Cool. You da man. Glad you could make your own day by posting some nimrod statement.
Great laughing at me. Cool. You da man. Glad you could make your own day by posting some nimrod statement.
-Sean
#38
Originally Posted by Nismo G
Jeff, my interest in this thread was probably the same reason as yours. I read the thread title and clicked on it out of curiosity and learned the "truth" about Mobil 1 and have accepted what Steve has said. You are just looking for another 10 page debate IMO.
-Sean
-Sean
I'm not looking forward to listening to 5 min of their marketing blah, blah to get to what I want.
#39
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Jeff, if you want to really learn about the Big Oil industry and how low, how unethical, how immoral, how dishonest they are, get the following book -
"The Prize - The Quest for Money, Oil and Power", by Daniel Yergin, a Pulitzer prize winning book and a national PBS series. The author is President of Cambridge Energy Research Associates, a leading international energy consulting firm.
http://search.barnesandnoble.com/boo...y&cds2Pid=9481
Oil companies spreading disinformation on the Internet about their competitors products? Ha, that's nothing!
There are perfectly legitimate things to bash Mobil about, without making things up, but I will not go there. That's not good business and I will not in any way, shape or form emulate the way the Big Oil industry does business. I take the high road and they can wallow in the mud. Thanks.
Steve
CEO of Hi-Tech Oil Co.
"The Prize - The Quest for Money, Oil and Power", by Daniel Yergin, a Pulitzer prize winning book and a national PBS series. The author is President of Cambridge Energy Research Associates, a leading international energy consulting firm.
http://search.barnesandnoble.com/boo...y&cds2Pid=9481
Oil companies spreading disinformation on the Internet about their competitors products? Ha, that's nothing!
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Last edited by HiTechOilCo; 05-16-2007 at 06:13 PM.
#41
Not sure what you are trying to imply here.
Big oil companies lie? Okay. Like Mobil 1 claiming they are a true synthetic when actually they are not. But they still raised their pricing?
How can you say the bobistheoilguy site is spreading lies? Why would they? What proof do you have to support that? None.
Exactly how are you "taking the high road" when you are making claims that that oil site is spreading lies or untruths? Or has less then ethical people posting behind the name of a competing oil company? How do you know there isn't a MOBIL 1 rep trying to do the same?
IMHO you aren't taking the high road. You are taking the road that avoids a valid question.
Big oil companies lie? Okay. Like Mobil 1 claiming they are a true synthetic when actually they are not. But they still raised their pricing?
How can you say the bobistheoilguy site is spreading lies? Why would they? What proof do you have to support that? None.
Exactly how are you "taking the high road" when you are making claims that that oil site is spreading lies or untruths? Or has less then ethical people posting behind the name of a competing oil company? How do you know there isn't a MOBIL 1 rep trying to do the same?
IMHO you aren't taking the high road. You are taking the road that avoids a valid question.
Originally Posted by HiTechOilCo
Jeff, if you want to really learn about the Big Oil industry and how low they are, how unethical, how immoral, how dishonest they are, get the following book -
"The Prize - The Quest for Money, Oil and Power", by Daniel Yergin, a Pulitzer prize winning book and a national PBS series. The author is President of Cambridge Energy Research Associates, a leading international energy consulting firm.
http://search.barnesandnoble.com/boo...y&cds2Pid=9481
Oil companies spreading disinformation on the Internet about their competitors products? Ha, that's nothing!
There are perfectly legitimate things to bash Mobil about, without making things up, but I will not go there. That's not good business and I will not in any way, shape or form emulate the way the Big Oil industry does business. I take the high road and they can wallow in the mud. Thanks.
Steve
CEO of Hi-Tech Oil Co.![Drivingskid](https://g35driver.com/forums/images/smilies/drivingskid.gif)
"The Prize - The Quest for Money, Oil and Power", by Daniel Yergin, a Pulitzer prize winning book and a national PBS series. The author is President of Cambridge Energy Research Associates, a leading international energy consulting firm.
http://search.barnesandnoble.com/boo...y&cds2Pid=9481
Oil companies spreading disinformation on the Internet about their competitors products? Ha, that's nothing!
![EEK!](https://g35driver.com/forums/images/smilies/eek.gif)
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Steve
CEO of Hi-Tech Oil Co.
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Last edited by Jeff92se; 05-16-2007 at 05:38 PM.
#42
Originally Posted by HiTechOilCo
500 psi film strength vs 3,000 psi film strength. Up to 45 deg. F.
temperature reductions using a PAO based synthetic oil. Take your pick. How much does an engine cost these days?
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#43
Originally Posted by Jeff92se
Your engine would exceed that temp in about 13 secondsYour engine's operating temp is regulated by the thermostat not by the oil. If you don't have any oil in the engine, it also cannot "reduce" the engine's temp anyway. Correct?
From - "Synthetic Oil: Rx For Long Engine Life"
"It is important to note
that, even though the dash gauge may register only a 200F or so
water/coolant temperature, the temperature of the sump and of all the
assorted bearing surfaces significantly exceed the water temperature,
and often surpass 500F on the piston ring and cylinder wall areas.
These high-temperature surfaces serve to rapidly decompose petroleum oil
and additives, as well as contribute to their shorter service life,
while the synthetic is largely unaffected. Beyond the protection
afforded an engine during these particular instances of high-operating
temperatures, high-temp thermal stability moreover permits an engine
oil to deliver overall extended service life (significantly longer drain
intervals) in all driving conditions, because it prevents the phenomenon
of sludge and carbon deposit formations on critical engine parts
(valves, valve guides, oil channels, lifter assemblies, piston rings, et
al.) due to oil thickening, a problem commonly attributable to petroleum
oil breakdown at high temperature. As these deposits accumulate in the
oil circulatory system, oil flow drops, thus accelerating engine wear.
To the user of synthetics, the benefits are (1) reduced wear of critical
engine components; (2) significantly reduced sludge and varnish... a
cleaner engine; (3) reduced engine drag due to uniform viscosity; and
(4) increased fuel economy due to reduced component wear."
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Last edited by HiTechOilCo; 05-16-2007 at 06:04 PM.
#44
In your original example there was no oil in the engine remember?
Originally Posted by HiTechOilCo
Ever inadvertently run the engine low on oil? :
Originally Posted by HiTechOilCo
The engines cooling system temperature is regulated by the thermostat, not the engine operating temperature, which is considerably higher.
From - "Synthetic Oil: Rx For Long Engine Life"
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From - "Synthetic Oil: Rx For Long Engine Life"
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Last edited by Jeff92se; 05-16-2007 at 06:02 PM.