Mobil 1 Oil Users # 2
#92
#93
Originally Posted by Jeff92se
I repeated WHAT THE MOBIL 1 REP SAID IN MY EMAIL! Are you saying Mobil 1 workers are spreading drivel????
#94
1) I repeated EXACTLY what the Mobil rep said.
2) If 1) is true, exactly how could it be "drivel"??
Mobil 1 is fine oil, it just ain't a primarily Group IV. AS PER THE MOBIL 1'S EMAIL TO ME.
2) If 1) is true, exactly how could it be "drivel"??
Mobil 1 is fine oil, it just ain't a primarily Group IV. AS PER THE MOBIL 1'S EMAIL TO ME.
Originally Posted by HiTechOilCo
No twisting words Jeff. Chill out. You are repeating the same drivel over and over. Posting bogus and invalid oil test results, repeating the same drivel over and over. Who do you work for?
#95
Originally Posted by Jeff92se
1) I repeated EXACTLY what the Mobil rep said.
2) If 1) is true, exactly how could it be "drivel"??
Mobil 1 is fine oil, it just ain't a primarily Group IV. AS PER THE MOBIL 1'S EMAIL TO ME.
2) If 1) is true, exactly how could it be "drivel"??
Mobil 1 is fine oil, it just ain't a primarily Group IV. AS PER THE MOBIL 1'S EMAIL TO ME.
WHO DO YOU WORK FOR?
#96
#97
Just for interest sake I called customer service line and spoke to a representative. I asked whether Mobil 1 is a PAO based group IV. I also asked about the label change and if that had any significance to the oil composition.
I was answered "yes it is PAO based and a group IV oil". They said the "label was changed "but it is still a pure synthetic oil".
I was answered "yes it is PAO based and a group IV oil". They said the "label was changed "but it is still a pure synthetic oil".
Last edited by RBull; 05-18-2007 at 05:29 PM.
#98
#99
Originally Posted by RBull
Just for interest sake I called customer service line and spoke to a representative. I asked whether Mobil 1 is a PAO based group IV. I also asked about the label change and if that had any significance to the oil composition.
I was answered "yes it is PAO based and a group IV oil". They said the "label was changed "but it is still a pure synthetic oil".
I was answered "yes it is PAO based and a group IV oil". They said the "label was changed "but it is still a pure synthetic oil".
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#100
Thanks. That is EXACTLY what was said in my email.
Note they said pao AND group IV. What does that mean? It means they are using mostly group III and some group IV. And since the group III
Note they said "pure synthetic" and not 100% synthetic. Groupe III you can state pure synthetic. Their labels USED to say 100% synthetic. Which requires they use primarily group IV. Which it looks like they do not.
Now Steve, if my understanding is incorrect, the please correct it.
Note they said pao AND group IV. What does that mean? It means they are using mostly group III and some group IV. And since the group III
Note they said "pure synthetic" and not 100% synthetic. Groupe III you can state pure synthetic. Their labels USED to say 100% synthetic. Which requires they use primarily group IV. Which it looks like they do not.
Now Steve, if my understanding is incorrect, the please correct it.
Originally Posted by RBull
Just for interest sake I called customer service line and spoke to a representative. I asked whether Mobil 1 is a PAO based group IV. I also asked about the label change and if that had any significance to the oil composition.
I was answered "yes it is PAO based and a group IV oil". They said the "label was changed "but it is still a pure synthetic oil".
I was answered "yes it is PAO based and a group IV oil". They said the "label was changed "but it is still a pure synthetic oil".
#102
Originally Posted by HiTechOilCo
WHO DO YOU WORK FOR? WHY IS IT IN YOUR VESTED INTEREST TO SPREAD DISINFORMATION?
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WHAT IS YOUR JOB?
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#103
Direct quote from Mobil 1. I'll highlight the good stuff. If there's DISINFORMATION in it, it's from Mobil, not I.
Note the blue. "Including" means blend. And it was mentioned 2ND. "high performance synthetics" is mentioned 1st. Now up to this point, this is verbatim from Matt Jacobs, Mobil 1.
Now here is the opinion part. When you list ingredients, you list primary then secondary components. Logical???
1) "high performance synthetics" This is clearly not group IV because it's been differentiated from group IV. It's listed 1st. So it should be the primary-majority ingredient. Correct? I'll ASSUME it's group III. But one thing for sure, it's not group IV or there would be not reason to differentiate them. I mean does that make any sense to anyone?
2) Group IV is listed 2nd. As a secondary ingredient. Logic says, it's content is not nearly as much as the other. "Including" certainly doesn't imply it. It's order in the list certainly doesn't imply it either.
Take for what you will.
Note the blue. "Including" means blend. And it was mentioned 2ND. "high performance synthetics" is mentioned 1st. Now up to this point, this is verbatim from Matt Jacobs, Mobil 1.
Now here is the opinion part. When you list ingredients, you list primary then secondary components. Logical???
1) "high performance synthetics" This is clearly not group IV because it's been differentiated from group IV. It's listed 1st. So it should be the primary-majority ingredient. Correct? I'll ASSUME it's group III. But one thing for sure, it's not group IV or there would be not reason to differentiate them. I mean does that make any sense to anyone?
2) Group IV is listed 2nd. As a secondary ingredient. Logic says, it's content is not nearly as much as the other. "Including" certainly doesn't imply it. It's order in the list certainly doesn't imply it either.
Take for what you will.
Thank you for your inquiry,
To meet the demanding requirements of today's
specifications (and our customers' expectations) Mobil 1 uses
high-performance synthetic fluids, including polyalphaolefins
(PAO, groupIV), along
with a proprietary system of additives. In fact, each Mobil 1
viscosity
grade uses a specific combination of synthetic fluids and
selected
additives in order to tailor the viscosity grade to its unique
requirement.
--
Thank you for choosing ExxonMobil products.
If you need further assistance, please contact ExxonMobil at
1-800-ASK-MOBIL
-Matt Jacob
To meet the demanding requirements of today's
specifications (and our customers' expectations) Mobil 1 uses
high-performance synthetic fluids, including polyalphaolefins
(PAO, groupIV), along
with a proprietary system of additives. In fact, each Mobil 1
viscosity
grade uses a specific combination of synthetic fluids and
selected
additives in order to tailor the viscosity grade to its unique
requirement.
--
Thank you for choosing ExxonMobil products.
If you need further assistance, please contact ExxonMobil at
1-800-ASK-MOBIL
-Matt Jacob
Last edited by Jeff92se; 05-18-2007 at 02:02 PM.
#104
#105
Originally Posted by Iceman8
How bout sending another email with the more specific questions of what your tying to get steve to answer. 100% synthetic and pure synthetic and such?
Quote:
1) Is it true that your Mobil 1 oil is no longer a PAO Group IV synthtetic?
2) And why has the "100% synthetic" statement been removed from your label when it would be benefical to retain it from a marketing standpoint? (If Mobil 1 is indeed still a Group IV?
Thanks
1) Is it true that your Mobil 1 oil is no longer a PAO Group IV synthtetic?
2) And why has the "100% synthetic" statement been removed from your label when it would be benefical to retain it from a marketing standpoint? (If Mobil 1 is indeed still a Group IV?
Thanks