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05-04-2008 | 06:59 PM
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If I want to....
Even though I'm far from doing, I'm still curious to know who fabricates a descent long block for the Sedan? I would be only going for a stage 1 maybe stage 2 but what I am certain to go with is a 11:1 compression built motor, yep NA. I know of Cosworth's Long block but that's really expensive and I'm trying to stay with in the 6K range. Does anyone know?
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05-04-2008 | 07:44 PM
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05-04-2008 | 08:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Canadian
Why do a built motor and stay N/A? For 6k, you won't even get CLOSE to 300whp. Any reputable shop can do a built long block, it depends on your location. But it's a waste of money, everyone will say the same bro. You're better off doing a built short block and some sort of FI.
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05-04-2008 | 08:15 PM
From what I've seen, you won't see even probably 300whp with all that. Especially for 6k. Check out this thread:
http://my350z.com/forum/showthread.php?t=284761
He made 303whp with his full build, and I don't even want to know how much he spent. Does that seen worth it? I just don't see how. With a built short block and a vortech kit you can make mid 400's easily, but it will also be considerably more than 6k.
Maybe just stay stock block and go FI? It can be done for 6k.
http://my350z.com/forum/showthread.php?t=284761
He made 303whp with his full build, and I don't even want to know how much he spent. Does that seen worth it? I just don't see how. With a built short block and a vortech kit you can make mid 400's easily, but it will also be considerably more than 6k.
Maybe just stay stock block and go FI? It can be done for 6k.
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05-04-2008 | 08:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Canadian
From what I've seen, you won't see even probably 300whp with all that. Especially for 6k. Check out this thread:
http://my350z.com/forum/showthread.php?t=284761
He made 303whp with his full build, and I don't even want to know how much he spent. Does that seen worth it? I just don't see how. With a built short block and a vortech kit you can make mid 400's easily, but it will also be considerably more than 6k.
Maybe just stay stock block and go FI? It can be done for 6k.
http://my350z.com/forum/showthread.php?t=284761
He made 303whp with his full build, and I don't even want to know how much he spent. Does that seen worth it? I just don't see how. With a built short block and a vortech kit you can make mid 400's easily, but it will also be considerably more than 6k.
Maybe just stay stock block and go FI? It can be done for 6k.
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05-05-2008 | 08:22 PM
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Originally Posted by superchargedg
Listen to Canadian cause you will be hard pressed and a lot poorer trying to do this with the de engine.
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05-05-2008 | 08:28 PM
It's not going to happen for $6,000. I don't care how much you read. You will need cams to get you near your goal and they are not cheap what so ever. Sorry bro but no one has figured it out yet, not even the professionals. Just buy a Vortech and be done with it. N/A on a VQ is not worth all the money. From what i see, the only people that have "done" N/A are people who "have" thousands to blow away so they can say I have a N/A VQ. But expect to pay $15000+ for what you want.
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05-05-2008 | 08:57 PM
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^^ Yup. This is why most people just slap on a turbo. There are a very few "elite" that have been working with NA from the beginning and hit a major barrier around 300whp. It will be expensive, don't expect to do it for $6,000 unless you can do a lot of the work yourself.
With basic bolts ons (I'm sure you can find these cheap in the marketplace to save you a few hundred bucks), agressive cams, and the high comp pistons you'll hit the 300 mark easy (but again at a STEEP price!)
The good thing about it will be you will have better chances of beating on it all day and it taking the torture than a stock VQ with FI thrown at it.
If you say you've read a lot already then keep reading. Spend months over on My350Z reading every single thread you can. You'll either fork up the cash for 300 @ the wheels and be very happy after all the research, or you'll pay about the same amount to just take your car to a shop and let them FI it and get 100hp more.
With basic bolts ons (I'm sure you can find these cheap in the marketplace to save you a few hundred bucks), agressive cams, and the high comp pistons you'll hit the 300 mark easy (but again at a STEEP price!)
The good thing about it will be you will have better chances of beating on it all day and it taking the torture than a stock VQ with FI thrown at it.
If you say you've read a lot already then keep reading. Spend months over on My350Z reading every single thread you can. You'll either fork up the cash for 300 @ the wheels and be very happy after all the research, or you'll pay about the same amount to just take your car to a shop and let them FI it and get 100hp more.
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05-05-2008 | 09:00 PM
Originally Posted by HomieG35
^^ Yup. This is why most people just slap on a turbo. There are a very few "elite" that have been working with NA from the beginning and hit a major barrier around 300whp. It will be expensive, don't expect to do it for $6,000 unless you can do a lot of the work yourself.
With basic bolts ons (I'm sure you can find these cheap in the marketplace to save you a few hundred bucks), agressive cams, and the high comp pistons you'll hit the 300 mark easy (but again at a STEEP price!)
The good thing about it will be you will have better chances of beating on it all day and it taking the torture than a stock VQ with FI thrown at it.
If you say you've read a lot already then keep reading. Spend months over on My350Z reading every single thread you can. You'll either fork up the cash for 300 @ the wheels and be very happy after all the research, or you'll pay about the same amount to just take your car to a shop and let them FI it and get 100hp more.
With basic bolts ons (I'm sure you can find these cheap in the marketplace to save you a few hundred bucks), agressive cams, and the high comp pistons you'll hit the 300 mark easy (but again at a STEEP price!)
The good thing about it will be you will have better chances of beating on it all day and it taking the torture than a stock VQ with FI thrown at it.
If you say you've read a lot already then keep reading. Spend months over on My350Z reading every single thread you can. You'll either fork up the cash for 300 @ the wheels and be very happy after all the research, or you'll pay about the same amount to just take your car to a shop and let them FI it and get 100hp more.
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05-06-2008 | 06:12 PM
Originally Posted by hipi2002
I understand where you're coming from, but how can you explain those making up to 268whp with just bolt ons and tuning? Plus I've seen some companies offering fully built Long blocks with 11.5:1 Compression for under 7k?
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