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Old Jun 25, 2004 | 07:52 AM
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What type of grounding kit...to make auto shifts..

What type of grounding kit should I get in order to make my AUTO shift smoother and faster when I use tiptronic?

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Old Jun 25, 2004 | 02:46 PM
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Re: What type of grounding kit...to make auto shif

The only one that will really help you is Gordon's 10 wire kit.
Gordon's kit is the only one that solves the 5AT tranny shifting
issue. The #7 wire made a big difference. When I added the
ECU/TCU wires, shifting became incredibly quick.
No other grounding kits I know of offer these wires.
Contact Gordon by sending him a PM . gordgee is his member
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Old Jun 25, 2004 | 03:03 PM
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Re: What type of grounding kit...to make auto shif

you guys are joking, right?

 
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Old Jun 25, 2004 | 06:02 PM
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Re: What type of grounding kit...to make auto shif

how much is this 10 ground wire kit and this really help making faster response of our 5AT manual shift? very interesting!!

 
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Old Jun 25, 2004 | 10:22 PM
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Re: What type of grounding kit...to make auto shif

protocav, you must drive an MT...

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Old Jun 26, 2004 | 09:38 AM
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Re: What type of grounding kit...to make auto shifts..

Grounding kits seem to be viewed differently by many. I can only give you my experience which may be only worth what you are paying me . I installed Gordon Gee's 10 wire Grounding Gear on my 5AT a week and a half ago and I would say the shift response in both AT and MM were the most significant changes. They were faster no doubt. My 20 year old son agrees when he drove it post mod. This is not a neck snapping performance mod but on my AT it made the shifts faster. With shipping to GA it was about $146. I think it is a good mod......Rod

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Old Jun 26, 2004 | 12:32 PM
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Re: What type of grounding kit...to make auto shifts..

flame me for saying this...

but theres a reason top secret puts grounding kits on their cars.

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Old Jun 26, 2004 | 12:58 PM
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Re: What type of grounding kit...to make auto shifts..

The reason is probably that they either sell them or think they look cool.

I took many before and after measurements and found zero differences. I leave them on there because I like looking at them. I tried it with the tranny wire and again, absolutely no difference.

I do however notice a difference in the way the tranny shifts depending on my driving style for the last 50 miles. Sometimes it's harder, sometimes it's smoother. This was before the wires, and after.

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Old Jun 26, 2004 | 02:03 PM
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Re: What type of grounding kit...to make auto shifts..

After I got the 10 wire kit from Gord I noticed when playing with the manual shifting I noticed a big difference. It seemed like the transmission was actually doing what I told it to do before then it was always fighting with me. The only negative to this was I drove on the manual mode too much and my gas mileage suffered.

One other word of wisdom if you do order from Gord be patient. If you live in the US it can take up to 7 or 8 days before it arrives.


 
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Old Jun 26, 2004 | 03:16 PM
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Re: What type of grounding kit...to make auto shifts..

wow i don't think you know too much about japanese tuners.

top secret sells about 10 parts for the v35...

and a grounding kit is NOT one of them...

*** these are the only parts they offer

Tuning Parts
Titan Pro Muffler Dual Exit $3305.00
Bolt on Single Turbo Kit $5510.00
Exhaust Manifold Pro (stainless steel) $3480.00
Exhaust Manifold Pro (titanium) $5510.00
Coilover Kit $3975.00
Top Secret Brake Pads $114.00
8-Piston Front Caliper System $8700.00
4-Piston Rear Caliper System $5510.00
F50 Front Caliper System $5510.00

if there is no point to grounding an engine... why is it originally grounded? and like many other members i dynoed my car before and after... and saw slight gains.

nevertheless you can say what you want... but grounding an engine adds virtually no weight and the only downside is the engine is slightly harder to work on (just have to remove the grounding wires)... there is no detriment except people who 'think' that grounding wires do nothing.

shops like kei office, re amemiya, jun... and top secret almost always put 'no-name' grounding wires on their cars (i.e. ... just no-name 8 or 4 gauge wires)... they are not promoting a product or selling it. the top secret widebody z33 pushing 600+ps is grounded as well.

now feel free to flame me for following the tuning path of japanese tuners... but american-tuned cars suck more and more with all that bling-bling. i take my tuning advice from the pros.

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Old Jun 26, 2004 | 08:10 PM
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Re: What type of grounding kit...to make auto shifts..

Wow, I think you don't know too much about dynoes.

Talk about bling bling....

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Old Jun 26, 2004 | 09:46 PM
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Re: What type of grounding kit...to make auto shifts..

I'm simply explaining myself and my logic. You just make stupid comments without reason. Why don't you explain why you think I don't know anything about dynoes. And then your 'bling bling' comment?

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Old Jun 26, 2004 | 10:49 PM
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Re: What type of grounding kit...to make auto shifts..

Like I said, "probably" "or". It was speculation, I wasn't making an assertion warranting counter attack.

There is a point to grounding, and the car is grounded. And the part on the G most susceptible to ground loos is the MAF. Have you ever measured the ground at the MAF? I doubt it. The word superfluous comes to mind. It's grounded sufficiently already.

Dynos dynos dynos....you do not about dynos don't you? Margin of error comes to mind.

I don't think there is a detriment, I just don't thing they do anything. Not on my car. Maybe they did on yours, but maybe you had a bad ground somewhere.

I don't know why shops put grounding kits on their cars. Some shops put roll cages on their cars, but that doesn't mean I want one or could benefit from one.

And dude you lost me with your last quasi point about the blings and the American cars. But I will comment that I've never seen a Camaro with a coffee can on the tail pipe.

No flames here dude. I'm just making an informed observation for sharing. It had no effect on my car. I measured and observed as scientifically as I could and nothing.

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Old Jun 26, 2004 | 11:28 PM
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Re: What type of grounding kit...to make auto shifts..

Interestingly enough, without knowing whether or not it would really help, I seriously thought about getting a grounding kit (either Gordgee's kit or Z Enterprises's (maxground.com) custom 5-gauge 350Z/G35 7-wire kit including one to the TCU). However, after about 1,000 mi. on my '04.5 G35 5AT Sedan, I noticed the MM upshifting was better. I was told (which I now believe) that the ECU & TCU needed time to adjust to my shifting habits. Ironically, it was a few hundred mi. after I installed the Z-tube and K&N drop-in filter that I noticed that the MM shifting seemed more responsive to my upshifts (that was at about 700 mi. or so); quicker actual shifts into the selected gear. I was so annoyed about the MM upshifting delay for the first month or so driving my car that I brought it in to my Infiniti dealer's service dept. for that (and something else they had to do). Naturally, they said the technician hooked it up to their computer, and concluded it's MM shifting was accurate; no problem found.

Since then, I really have noticed quicker response when in MM mode; there is still a slight delay but not as bad as it was from day 1 - 1,000 mi. When I first started driving the car, there was at least a 1-1 1/2 sec. delay from the time I shifted up to the time it actually shifted into that selected gear...it was very annoying. Now, there might be a 1/2 sec. delay maybe.

I now have about 1,200 miles on the car, and without even knowing for sure if any grounding wires could or would improve the MM shifting response, I've decided to hold off on the grounding wires. Just my experience.



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Old Jun 27, 2004 | 10:16 AM
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Re: What type of grounding kit...to make auto shifts..

Thanx for your responses guys.

The main thing I was looking for was quicker and smoother shifts in my manumatic mode. I think you guys have given me more than a enough information for me to know.

I appreciate your help guys.

and hahahhaha stop fighting.

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